How much of wokeness is coerced?

[ArnoldPalmer]

Virtually all of it. This psyop preys on the notion that we all wanted this from the beginning (the early 90s), and established itself as the majority opinion, several years before it ever was. The only reason why it's still a thing now, is because we were all taught that punching down is disrespectful, and not to do it. I agree with that in practice, but punching an SJW is not punching down, it's a direct blow to the Jewish establishment elite.

The only time a leftist will hide behind being a marginalized individual, is when they're caught with their pants down, or stuck in a losing argument. The majority of the time, they're the self-appointed 'Gestapo of False Niceness', and will try and have you killed for calling someone a fag on Call of Duty. This is why the term, "Crybully" was coined. They pretend to be weak, and physically, and sometimes mentally, they are, but those aren't the only forms of strength. Their strength is derived from the feminine doctrine of shame and public display. They fully bank on the idea that someone, somewhere, will have their back in trying to ruin someone's life over a mean tweet, or a nasty word, and they will always get it. Until that support network dissolves, you're fucking stuck with these people, unless you want to break their noses.

It's the social networking, and hebraic nepotism of it all, that keeps this feedback loop going. Nobody outside of the Soycial Justice movement is willing to break the rules like they do, and for some good reason. You don't share in the benefit of that nepotism. Every corporation, every political and social institution, is against you, and would have you killed, if it weren't so messy to cover up. That's the only perk you get, so use it. Give some soychild faggot a rapid-onset rhinoplasty for me. That's how you save le epin west xD.

 

[Ser Prize]

I've noticed a lot of bluepilled older liberals who think being a liberal still means the same thing it did in the early 2000s and don't realize they're supporting pedophiles by failing to change their beliefs with the times. They aren't being coerced as much as choosing to remain naive and oblivious because the truth is so shocking they think it can't possibly be real and ignore it. For the vast majority of employed people, however, they just want to retain the ability to provide for their families instead of becoming unemployable just for having a different opinion. So, I think it's fair to assume that the "silent woke" are being coerced, but the noisy ones either really believe what they say or just love attention whoring.

Because for a gen X or boomer liberal to update their political views is to acknowledge the fact that their entire world view was sculpted by merchants of ill repute. Everything they thought was intrinsic to them was crammed into them by the same ones pushing drag queen story hour and desmond is amazing.

These are people who prided themselves on being edgy and transgressive. To acknowledge that they have been tools for their whole life is beyond them. It would break them.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

Because for a gen X or boomer liberal to update their political views is to acknowledge the fact that their entire world view was sculpted by merchants of ill repute. Everything they thought was intrinsic to them was crammed into them by the same ones pushing drag queen story hour and desmond is amazing.

These are people who prided themselves on being edgy and transgressive. To acknowledge that they have been tools for their whole life is beyond them. It would break them.

They're very confused by the troon movement, but blindly support it because they wouldn't want to be accused of bigotry. If their fellow blue teamers are supporting it then it must be right. Few are skeptical enough to research what gender reassignment surgery actually is (cosmetic surgery which does nothing to actually change your sex) or run the pro-tranny arguments through basic logic tests (every argument I've heard in support of transgenderism has contained one or more documented logical fallacies) or consider that the complete lack of gatekeeping in the trans community attracts and gives cover to pedophiles and rapists. Since they're gay, they must be okay, according to blue logic. Always give them the benefit of the doubt even as they're trying to instill their fetish into children, using the public school system, when their minds are most susceptible to accepting new information without questioning it. Nobody will point out these glaring red flags because they're too afraid they'll be accused of being a bad person for it, and child safety gets put on the back burner every time.

I've also seen someone say, "The idea that there are biological differences between cis women and trans women is a transphobic myth." Science has been utterly cucked. Logic tests and the scientific method are transphobic now. If you want to perform real science, where you start by gathering data and then use it to draw a conclusion rather than starting with a conclusion and then seeking evidence to support it, you'll be called a bigot and have your funding cut and your livelihood taken away. It's fucked. You can't just make something true by insisting it is hard enough and censoring or burying all evidence to the contrary. What about the Y chromosome? Sex-specific reproductive organs? The sex-specific changes to your skeletal structure? Male-pattern baldness and prostate cancer? Also, if those things "don't make someone a man/woman," then why do they need cosmetic surgery to simulate them so badly? When introducing even the smallest amount of logic to a point made by transgender ideology, the house of cards falls apart in an instant. That's why logic has become so taboo: it's completely incompatible with the agenda currently being pushed. Clown World is very aptly named.

 

[Secret Messages]

Normies don't like to rock the boat and the boat is their company culture, which must be niggerfaggot friendly if said corporation wants blackrock money. The real lost causes are the true believers.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Because for a gen X or boomer liberal to update their political views is to acknowledge the fact that their entire world view was sculpted by merchants of ill repute. Everything they thought was intrinsic to them was crammed into them by the same ones pushing drag queen story hour and desmond is amazing.

These are people who prided themselves on being edgy and transgressive. To acknowledge that they have been tools for their whole life is beyond them. It would break them.

Wait until you find out how many things intrinstic to the American conservative exists only for turning them into controlled opposition.

 

[jje100010001]

They're very confused by the troon movement, but blindly support it because they wouldn't want to be accused of bigotry. If their fellow blue teamers are supporting it then it must be right. Few are skeptical enough to research what gender reassignment surgery actually is (cosmetic surgery which does nothing to actually change your sex) or run the pro-tranny arguments through basic logic tests (every argument I've heard in support of transgenderism has contained one or more documented logical fallacies) or consider that the complete lack of gatekeeping in the trans community attracts and gives cover to pedophiles and rapists. Since they're gay, they must be okay, according to blue logic. Always give them the benefit of the doubt even as they're trying to instill their fetish into children, using the public school system, when their minds are most susceptible to accepting new information without questioning it. Nobody will point out these glaring red flags because they're too afraid they'll be accused of being a bad person for it, and child safety gets put on the back burner every time.

From another post, on the strange partnership between soccer mums who form the main 'normie' power base of tr00n advocacy, and then the 'nasty nerds' who form the main phalanx pushing tr00nism in culture and politics:

The so-far triumphant transgender movement is a political coalition that includes two polar opposite sets of allies who are so radically different in their thought styles that they can’t even begin to understand each other: naive nice moms and smart but not-at-all nice nerdy ex-men. The incoherence of transgenderist ideology is inevitable because its proponents aren’t at all on the same wavelength.

A large part of the mainstream support for the transgender mania comes from nice white-lady mothers, pretty much the same well-meaning suburban moms who buy those “In this house, we believe” lawn signs off the arts-and-crafts website Etsy:

In this house, we believe:
Black Lives Matter.
Women’s rights are human rights.
No human is illegal.
Science is real.
Love is love.
Kindness is everything.
Click to expand...

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In contrast to the monist moms are the atomist shock troops of transgenderism: unkind extreme male brain nerds who like drawing distinctions almost as much as dressing like their mothers with a simple string of pearls.

But only a small fraction of the nice moms who support “transgender health care” for children (i.e., poisoning, mutilating, and sterilizing) have even noticed the existence of the aggressive autogynephilic fetishists who make up so many of the thought leaders of the trans push. Noticing anything that’s less than wholly validating about The Marginalized is too unkind to dream of doing.

Hence, the nice moms don’t realize they are being fed their lines largely by high-IQ, ruthlessly self-centered men who want to force everybody to uphold their sex fantasy.

https://www.takimag.com/article/invasion-of-the-nasty-nerds/

Wait until you find out how many things intrinstic to the American conservative exists only for turning them into controlled opposition.

It's amazing what American conservatives are trying to conserve, strip malls, suburban sprawl, 'traditional gay marriage', etc, none of which have been beneficial to the formation of a proud and resilient America. For all their faults, at least leftists articulate some diverging utopian vision of the future, no matter how genocidal it may need to be to get there.

 

[Ser Prize]

Wait until you find out how many things intrinstic to the American conservative exists only for turning them into controlled opposition.

Oh I know. GOP conservatives exist to lose with dignity and to slowly do what liberals already wanted if they do win. True conservatism was snuffed out long ago.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Oh I know. GOP conservatives exist to lose with dignity and to slowly do what liberals already wanted if they do win. True conservatism was snuffed out long ago.

Oh if only the brainrot was limited to the GOP.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

About 50/50, the fact that there are people going through the emotions and are being forced into wokeness does not negate the fact that there are true believers of it as well.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

All of it.

The main idea of 'wokeness' is "do you care about impoverished people?" you are shamed into doing their bidding and supporting their cause.

Nobody does it cause they genuinely care...

 

[WelperHelper99]

All of it.

The main idea of 'wokeness' is "do you care about impoverished people?" you are shamed into doing their bidding and supporting their cause.

Nobody does it cause they genuinely care...

I've found that many people, when pressed, have something to bitch about the wokies. They have influence, not control.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

And part of it is due to the fact that Bush BROKE THE BRAINS of a lot of lefties/progressives, in terms of giving them permanent PTSD over how utterly and completely buck broken the modern Democrat Party was during the height of the Bush II reign of terror. And why, after Obama got elected, they abandoned ALL of their former principals and beliefs and became obsessed with NEVER LOSING POWER AGAIN. Even if they have to break the law, commit election fraud, promote/fund domestic terror groups, and destroy the global economy to do so.

This, seems incredibly accurate. There is something to be said that many Dems, both old and new are trapped in 2005/08. I recently watched an awful video about why political comedy sucks, which was really just a video of two lesbos going off on the Babylon Bee and how they were funny only when they made fun of conservatives. You know, “political comedy is bad,” but in the first few minutes it gets turned to conservative comedy. Anyway, there was a part about censorship to which they said conservatives do it also, to which the girls gave the modern example of an event from like 2002, in a video posted in 2022. The left is completely frozen in time, fighting a stagnant war against the religious right that ended before Bush even left office. I even hear this from lefties today as they go off on conspiracies of how crazy fundies are using the Trump to bring about the rapture, or how Qanon is a bunch of religious peeps. They really have yet to move on from the religious and it completely forms their view of politics.

To add to @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid question, it is heavily coerced. The old Dems are stuck in a time loop but that is specifically due to media. Colbert and the like have been grifting for so long that many Dems are stuck in the past. Media hasn’t changed, but rather doubled-down on the Bush grift from years ago, so of course this time-loop happened. Technology also plays a key role as Dems have become too comfortable to ever question. Dems used to fight hard against Bush tracking citizens, but now place an Alexa in the kitchen because tapping a screen to hear a new song is too difficult. They are big on workers rights, but that 3 day shipping from Amazon can overcome any faults. It is to the point where many argue that small businesses dying is okay because they just can’t keep up with Amazon, so they deserved it. Citing some adapt or die bs. Complacency is the enemy of the Dems I am afraid.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I think it is a mix of a lot of things, maybe these people genuinely believe what they are saying is good for society. Other cases, and probably the majority, are coercion. I mean, there is a lot of ways to blackmail folks. Look at the biggest, recent black mailable list of celebrities and politicians who may or may not have participated in illegal activities on Epstein island. Not saying I condone it, just saying that if I were wealthy and a monster, I'd probably have tack sharp record keeping of the activities of these guests to use as leverage. Considering some of these celebrities have been vocal on their leftist political views, well, I believe they are being fed lines much like news casters.

 

[starborn427614]

There is definitely a fair amount of people ruining it for others who are actually trying to change things without being insufferable cunts about it. I believe the term "wokescold" is used to describe the former, especially when attempting to browbeat others into falling in line.

 

[Safir]

Very little, most of it is engineered. Look at that Somali school meeting, the parents are thoroughly cucked and their children will be full-on woke. The principal is Somalian, she's woke and a pedo pimp.