How much suffering should you allow your children? - A politically incorrect debate

[Crysocyan]

“A sheep in the midst of wolves is safe compared with the Christian in the midst of ungodly men.” -Charles Spurgeon​

Why would you even consider public school being an option?

 

[Saint Agustin]

Teach your kids to be strong, independent, thinkers and self reliant.

For that you can't coddle them nor do stuff for them.

Talk to them directly, punish them when they do bad stuff, teach them to differentiate right and wrong and always stands to what's correct.

That entitles suffering and sacrifice, but will make them whole.

 

[Ser Prize]

You should pin the child down and record their screams

I didn't know Alfred Kinsey's ghost had a kf account!

Teach your kids to be strong, independent, thinkers and self reliant.

For that you can't coddle them nor do stuff for them.

Talk to them directly, punish them when they do bad stuff, teach them to differentiate right and wrong and always stands to what's correct.

That entitles suffering and sacrifice, but will make them whole.

This. You should work hard to instill values into them and warn them about the dangers they may face. But it's important to let them get exposed to said dangers so they may understand.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

@Safir While I do agree with most of what you've said I think my original point was misrepresented. I wasn't arguing that we need to allow children to participate in degeneracy because they're somewhat attracted to it and if we take it from them they will feel even more attracted.

What I'm trying to say is that the position of most of the people on the KiwiFarms towards the LGBT is informed by repeated instances of antisocial behaviour coming from people of gender. Since this is a forum that aggregates abhorrent behaviour, it's easy for its users to identify patterns and see that some groups are over represented here. It is easy too for its users to forget that most people are not only NOT exposed to this information but they are SPECIFICALLY prevented from accessing it.

My point was that if you kept your children blissfully unaware of degeneracy, or just offered a vision of it that must necessarily mean that they have to take your word of it, when they're inevitably exposed to the larger narrative -Following the tranny example- where trannys can't do no good they will immediately reject you as a bigot. This is a fact.

The biggest SJWs and the most ardently crazy progressives all have in common that they all hail from higher middle class environments where most of the issues they pontificate about are non-existent.

It is quite dangerous to send your children to a school where they have trannys as teachers, because you just know they would manage to turn trigonometry into some sort of fetish-y thing. I wouldn't send my children to a school that has any other flags than the national flag hanging around or spouses progressive values as a selling point because I just know what goes on there and the children will be indoctrinated. They may hate it but they'll be beaten up psychologically until they love it.

Ideally a school should be neutral and focusing on proper learning and education. This means nothing because for progressives their schools are "Neutral" and "Inclusive", but I digress.

So the point of this thread is that is healthy to expose your children to any venom they may find so that they build a proper immune system, but how much is too much and how little is too little?

 

[Schwarzwald]

After reading the OP, I believe that you're approaching the subject with certain biases and attributing generalities as absolute truths.

Not all public schools are created equal. It's not a one-size-fits-all experience, it very much depends on school systems, curriculum, location, student population, and most importantly, the individuals teaching them.

With regard to children unanimously rejecting the values of their parents and embracing the outside world, that also isn't universally true. It very much depends on the individual child, the circumstances of their rearing, what they were or weren't exposed to, and what they ultimately seek out and experience in life.

You're asking age-old questions for which there is no right answer, as there are too many variables to account for. Outcomes are going to run the gamut. The most crucial component is to exercise good judgment and do what you and your spouse believe is right for your child and family. The world truly is a wicked place that has turned its back on all things righteous, but you and I and anybody reading this will always be participants of this world until the day we pass on.

There is a world of difference between being overprotective of children to protecting children, and the only differentiator between them is individual judgment.

 

[Timmy Jolsen]

Spoiler: PL

I've got a hereditary disease. Any kid I squeezed out would be suffering more than enough already, so there are no little ones in Timmy Jolsen's future.

If I were going to have non-disabled kids though, I'd make them set goals and meet them (a useful skill later in life), and not go back on any punishment I gave. I would not physically punish a child unless they were physically attacking me (and I'd spank very lightly, more for show than to actually cause pain). I'd homeschool my child, as I was when I was a kid, since I enjoyed being homeschooled and received a better education than my peers who went to public school. I'd do my best to mitigate the lack of socialization by joining a homeschooling collective and making sure he or she had hobbies that involved other kids.

Of course none of that would actually happen as in reality the kid would be a retarded (physically, mentally, or both) gimpy little thing writhing in pain. I'd probably be too soft on a kid like that, spoiling them and ending up raising a little lolcalf of my own.

 

[PaleTay]

I do believe you're a "bad parent" if you raise your kids in a bad neighborhood or are overprotective.

 

[Hyro]

As with everything there's a balance to be had. Too much suffering obviously fucks kids up. Kids who grew up with relentless bullying or genuinely abusive parents almost always come out as fuck ups because the way they learned to navigate life is completely warped from the norm. On the other hand no suffering creates eternal children who don't know how to deal with any kind of hardship, and usually makes them extremely spoiled and unpleasant people like all the demented BPD women we have now and middle class progressive clowns who burst into tears at the slightest inconvenience.

I don't think there's any way to totally guarantee your kid will come out good, they need some level of independence to be able to learn from their mistakes, but not too much freedom that they become like council estate kids who think it's acceptable to beat the elderly to death for fun.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

I think the most overlooked thing may be thst the most essential child rearing choice is the choice to build and maintain a good relationship.

This means you'll discover whether public school/homeschooling is helping or harming your kid more.