Culture How the Internet Left 4chan Behind - The anonymous forum thrived when edgelord content wasn’t acceptable on more mainstream social media. Today, it can be found most anywhere.

How the Internet Left 4chan Behind
The New Yorker (archive.ph)
By Kyle Chayka
2025-04-30 10:00:00GMT

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Illustration by Ariel Davis

4chan was where I learned that the internet could be bad. I first encountered the site during high school, not long after its founding, in 2003, by an American teen-ager named Christopher Poole (better known by his username, moot). Poole copied the format of a Japanese message board nicknamed 2channel; users on 4chan could anonymously post an unfiltered mix of text, images, and animated GIFs. Illicit material was never hard to find on the internet, but 4chan served as an early hub—or “dumping ground” might be more apt. The site was inundated with pornography, pirated files, and uncensored screeds about dating or politics. Its background, a pale yellow gradient, still gives me a slight frisson, like a Playboy issue hidden under the bed. I would often test the censorship settings on a library or school computer’s LAN internet connection by trying to load 4chan. Usually, it wouldn’t work, which hinted at the site’s infamy: even the grown-ups knew at least its name, and that it warranted a place on ban lists.

On 4chan, usernames were most often just “Anonymous” or a string of numbers. I never posted, but I understood the appeal of hiding behind a mask and becoming one of a crowd. The site formed a collective id that could be called up in a web browser, years before the digital gang wars of Twitter began. Learning the forum’s slang was the key to understanding its jokes: lulz, fren, TFW, troll. Posts were deleted when they stopped getting new engagement, which typically happened quickly, especially if the messages failed to provoke. At a time when the internet was still sparsely populated, 4chan guaranteed constant energy, no matter the time of day or night. But as the social-media landscape grew up around it, during the twenty-tens, and other sites competed as spaces for “shitposting,” that digital term of art, 4chan faded in relevance. In 2015, Poole sold it to the owner of 2channel, the Japanese site that had inspired it. It survived as a basement of the internet—dingy, subterranean, and in a state of arrested development—which is why it wasn’t exactly surprising when, on April 14th, 4chan suddenly disappeared. A spinoff forum called Soyjak.party (even harsher and more political than its predecessor) took credit for hacking the site and shutting it down.

After a week and a half, 4chan limped back online over the weekend, but an air of embarrassment hung over its return. The hackers had leaked 4chan’s source code, along with the accounts of its anonymous volunteer moderators. “It’s pretty archaic internet infrastructure,” Jared Holt, a researcher at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue focussing on domestic extremist movements on the web, told me. Rather than an act of total destruction, the hack appeared to be a troll, a dig at 4chan’s secondary status two decades into the forum’s existence. Once a digital home to political incorrectness, and a staging ground for incel culture, white-power groups, mass-shooting manifestos, and more, 4chan is now one among many platforms just as conducive to hate speech. President Donald Trump’s own Truth Social is another, as is Parler, the right-wing video site offering “True Freedom.” There’s Patriots Win, a kind of Trump-focussed Reddit clone; Kiwi Farm, a hub known for coördinated online harassment; and X, which under the ownership of Elon Musk has loosened content-moderation policies and allowed the kind of conspiracy theories and graphic imagery that once thrived on 4chan. As Holt put it, “4chan had essentially been outflanked to the right.”

What’s undeniable is that 4chan helped form the content ecosystem as we know it. The kind of real-time one-upmanship that happens on X, TikTok, and video podcasts; the culture of “owns,” clapbacks, and online putdowns—all of it crystallized on 4chan. The site demonstrated, before many people realized it, that the internet existed fundamentally in a Hobbesian state of nature, hosting a war of all against all. Cole Stryker, an editorial consultant in Los Angeles and the author of “Epic Win for Anonymous: How 4chan’s Army Conquered the Web,” from 2011, summed up the forum’s influential attitude as “nonstop playful misanthropy.” 4chan played a role in the acceleration of digital culture, the onslaught of discourse in the form of a million multimedia particles. On 4chan, “it was just as easy to share an image as it was to share words,” Stryker told me, adding, “Now everyone kind of has that capability to speak in that language.” Today, a fluency in memes extends to the highest levels of authority. “Even our President and our Vice-President are posters,” Stryker said. The official White House account on X, in particular, has taken on a trolling aspect; one A.I.-generated image it posted in March, of the arrest of an alleged drug dealer in the anime style of Studio Ghibli, resembled nothing more than a 4chan post in its nihilistic combination of implicit violence and absurdist humor. 4chan thrived when such edgelord content wasn’t acceptable on more mainstream social-media channels; now it can be found most anywhere.

When 4chan came back online, a post on a company blog explained that the site had been suffering from a lack of resources that had prevented the team from upgrading its servers. The damage from the hack “was catastrophic,” the post said, but during the downtime the team had finally moved onto new, secured infrastructure. Though the functionality that allows users to upload new posts and images has remained down, and some features have not yet been restored, the blog post proclaimed, “4chan is back. No other website can replace it, or this community.” Even if 4chan could reclaim its position as a nucleus of online radicalization, the reality is that more and more extremism is happening in private digital niches. School shootings have been planned and broadcast on the decentralized chat platform Discord. The brain poisoning of the internet is now perpetuated through closed groups on Telegram or Signal, which offer some encryption and automated erasure of messages. In Semafor, the journalist Ben Smith recently broke the news of a collection of influential group chats involving Silicon Valley investors, media executives, politicians, and writers, including the MAGA-friendly venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, the right-wing entrepreneur-turned-politician Vivek Ramaswamy, and the anti-woke author Thomas Chatterton Williams. The chats had jokey names such as “Last Men, apparently” and hosted sniping conversations about workplace identity politics and the rise of China which provided test runs for those figures’ publicly stated opinions. “Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor, and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told the podcaster Lex Fridman in February. 4chan could just as easily disappear again, but its sensibility endures in a grungy corner of our brains, a shitposting thread that can never be erased.
 
4chan got shit because everyone forgot about lurk moar and rules one and two. And then as more users filtered through it people who had something going for them in their lives slowly drifter off, while trannies, incels and various other detritus built up with each influx and never left, like limestone in a kettle.

Now it's literally just top to bottom porn threads, race-baiting and other cancer. Chanology was a major turning point too because there was a huge influx of newfags who were totally at odds with the culture. That was when the culture changed and people started.ddoing things for causes and politics instead of just for the lulz
Whatever happened to 7chan? It's a graveyard now, I remember having a great time there around 2010.
Worst part is that the "oldfags" that left during the exodus weren't any better. When 8chan collapsed, the following webring drama showed that when left to their own devices they can't organize or get along with each other for shit without an already existing platform, and the few remaining altchans from that time are just deader 4chan clones with even more disgusting niche porn. 4chan of old and 8chan of old were lightning in the bottle and will never be recreated.
 
I never posted,
What an absolute fag.
4chan is now one among many platforms just as conducive to hate speech.
That's what happens when you bust up the containment site.
President Donald Trump’s own Truth Social is another, as is Parler, the right-wing video site offering “True Freedom.” There’s Patriots Win, a kind of Trump-focussed Reddit clone; Kiwi Farm, a hub known for coördinated online harassment; and X, which under the ownership of Elon Musk has loosened content-moderation policies and allowed the kind of conspiracy theories and graphic imagery that once thrived on 4chan.
Nazis, nazis, everywhere, as far as the eye can see...the Nazis might be in the room with you right now! Maybe sitting in your chair!

Bet he wishes they'd just shut up and let people play their video games now. It's not like they weren't warned what would happen.
 
What passes for "writing" today at the New Yorker......just sad.
But this faggot (a notorious Farms-hater) used an antiquated dieresis in his use of the word "coördinated," lying about this site and claiming we're "a hub known for coördinated online harassment."

Note two things about this statement. Jared Holt is such a cowardly faggot he knows he's lying, so he doesn't just straight-up say that we actually ARE a hub of "coördinated" online harassment. He just says we're a "hub known" for that bullshit, so he can squirm his way out of his lies legally.

Also he shows he's a pretentious faggot. Absolutely fucking nobody uses that dieresis shit any more except in metal umlauts, which usually ignore the usual "two vowels with a syllable break in between them when the second vowel is pronounced differently" rule.

There's no reason even to use this in the century after the Twentieth other than being a gargantuan cock-gargling homosexual pretentious faggot.
LULZ a corruption of LOL. If you unironically knew this when it happened, you have knee or back pain.
Can confirm. I remember this and sometimes have knee pain.
 
The amount of gas this faggot put into gaslighting the reader could heat a remote Scottish island for an entire year. Last time I checked, sites such as Parler and Truth Social were anything but "mainstream".

As for Kiwi Farm, didn't that get run off the Internet by some Stunning and Brave trans wammen a few years back?

Journoscum such as the faggot who wrote this article can't be replaced by AI soon enough.
 
4chan got shit because everyone forgot about lurk moar and rules one and two. And then as more users filtered through it people who had something going for them in their lives slowly drifter off, while trannies, incels and various other detritus built up with each influx and never left, like limestone in a kettle.

Now it's literally just top to bottom porn threads, race-baiting and other cancer. Chanology was a major turning point too because there was a huge influx of newfags who were totally at odds with the culture. That was when the culture changed and people started.ddoing things for causes and politics instead of just for the lulz
Whatever happened to 7chan? It's a graveyard now, I remember having a great time there around 2010.
Oh no, the culture of 4chan changed as the culture of society changed. Millennials got older and more politically aware/active. 4chan stopped being a hub of degenerate nihilism on the internet. This is going to happen. As the world gets shittier and things get worse people are going to become politically aware and active in politics. It's just the way things are. It's actually a good thing because degenerate and nihilistic is a shit tier way to go through life.
 
Once a digital home to political incorrectness, and a staging ground for incel culture, white-power groups, mass-shooting manifestos, and more, 4chan is now one among many platforms just as conducive to hate speech. President Donald Trump’s own Truth Social is another, as is Parler, the right-wing video site offering “True Freedom.” There’s Patriots Win, a kind of Trump-focussed Reddit clone; Kiwi Farm, a hub known for coördinated online harassment; and X, which under the ownership of Elon Musk has loosened content-moderation policies and allowed the kind of conspiracy theories and graphic imagery that once thrived on 4chan. As Holt put it, “4chan had essentially been outflanked to the right.”
So many things are wrong with this besides the "Kiwi Farm" mention:
  • "Conducive to hate speech." Meaning, doesn't engage in rampant censorship of anything that upsets a tranny janny.
  • "Outflanked to the right." Implying that conspiracy theories, graphic imagery, and harassment are somehow right-wing.
  • 4chan is a staging ground for mass-shooting manifestos? How many does it get, like ten a day?
  • Most of the platforms they list are not in fact particularly conducive to so-called hate speech. For example, Patriots.win has a rule "No genuine racism, including slurs, non-factual content, and general unfounded bigotry." But to Kyle Chayka, any independent thought is hate speech.
Didn't the New Yorker once have quality standards for what it publishes?

But this faggot (a notorious Farms-hater) used an antiquated dieresis in his use of the word "coördinated," lying about this site and claiming we're "a hub known for coördinated online harassment."
To be fair, the dieresis is an in-house New Yorker style, so the author of the article likely had no say in it. An editor may have added it.
 
The kind of real-time one-upmanship that happens on X, TikTok, and video podcasts; the culture of “owns,” clapbacks, and online putdowns—all of it crystallized on 4chan.
This isn't true. 4chan was full tackle football, it wasn't clapback sass culture. I think Something Awful bears far more of the blame for modern Internet culture than 4chan does. It's the same exact people, former goons, driving big social accounts in many cases. The real reason 4chan draws the ire of people like this is that on 4chan you can say nigger and kike. You could replace all these words with the writer saying he dislikes reading nigger and kike.
 
  • Agree
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"Ariel Davis". Wew. For those who don't know, A'riel is literally code for Jerusalem (Isaiah 29), and Davis?? Jesus... Might as well just call yourself "Jerusalem David". Oy vey... wonder what Tribe they belong to...
 
This is why we need to get rid of the exception to defamation in the US when it comes implied malice people like Jared Holt and everyone at the SPLC should be allowed to be sued into oblivion american needs stronger defamation laws
 
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