How to convince someone out of trooning out?

[Ultrapenguin]

Bumping so I don't have to make another identical thread.

How do you convince someone not to troon out?

Some random guy on some forum said he considered trasitioning, so I tried to convince him not to do it, but first there were 2 other people who meddled with my comments by calling me a transphobe just to try and villainise me and that seemed to have worked because the dude I tried to convince not to transition is now asking around how he can report my comments.

I also included links to reliable medical sites that discussed the issue and all of that got dismissed probably.

Knowing is half the battle and that'd probably change things for the better. I don't want to see people transition because they were told that they had dysphoria on Discord or some shit like that.

Because I can't write long paragraphs on my own I just stole comments I found here and 1 copypasta on 4chan.

I'd have posted that in Q&A, but I know the discussion would have gone 2 pages at most and died down giving me no useful information.

You aren't going to with words.

Get them to work with wood (using planers and chisels and files is very meditative) or repair tools or something, or something that takes advantage of having larger, stronger hands and more upper body strength. Hell, find some women who'll ask them to open jars for them. Anything to make them appreciate what they have.

Trooning is often done out of a sense of hopelessness and insecurity in one's role as a man, and being completely honest if you're a city dweller who has no opportunity to use your physical attributes to accomplish things other people wouldn't be able to it's sensible to conclude that being a man sucks. Trying to tell them they're wrong to think it does in that case would be a lie, unless you live in a real bad part of town.

You're going to have to give them a reason to feel some level of pride as an individual, and if you can't you're in no position to try to stop them. Long term health or outcomes isn't a compelling reason, and nobody has ever been convinced to change their life because of being talked at.

 

[Astro Loafo]

You aren't going to with words.

Get them to work with wood (using planers and chisels and files is very meditative) or repair tools or something, or something that takes advantage of having larger, stronger hands and more upper body strength. Hell, find some women who'll ask them to open jars for them. Anything to make them appreciate what they have.

Trooning is often done out of a sense of hopelessness and insecurity in one's role as a man, and being completely honest if you're a city dweller who has no opportunity to use your physical attributes to accomplish things other people wouldn't be able to it's sensible to conclude that being a man sucks. Trying to tell them they're wrong to think it does in that case would be a lie, unless you live in a real bad part of town.

You're going to have to give them a reason to feel some level of pride as an individual, and if you can't you're in no position to try to stop them. Long term health or outcomes isn't a compelling reason, and nobody has ever been convinced to change their life because of being talked at.

Not true at all.

No matter what activities you do that you believe give you worth as a man. None of that will take away the psychosis infecting the mind of a troon.

It's a mental issue. You can't just cure schizophrenia with touch grass.