How we actually solve the worlds problems - seriously. quit dicking around

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DAOs.
Yes, Blockchain governance protocols
How do we make a fair DAO? (is this a debate?)
Don't worry, all the hard work is done.

The main mission is to erect obelisks. Obelisks are hardware, in real life, watched over by the governance assets on chain.
The first question you should ask is "How do we get fair representation in the real world?" Highly populated areas are the way this protocol bridges into the real world. That's how they initiate, and then with a proof-of-manufacturing process can grow from there.

Infrastructure will build around obelisks.
Identity associated with wallet addresses. Many other things. Layer 2. Much much more.
The identity & transaction volume factor is what will force world governments to fold and adjust themselves to the terms of the protocol.

This is better than World War 3. We should distract everyone with something else. It'll ease out the chaos.

The plan is simple, we put a box in the ground and we run all the money through that.
 
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Everything in politics is simple, but the simplest thing is difficult. For one, monetary policy may not govern politics, for politics is a curtailment of war. It will always be true that the continuation of policy by other means merely is war. Pleasant as it sounds, this whole train of logic about DAOs is a fallacy that must be exposed: War/Politics is such a dangerous business that mistakes that come from kindness are the very worst. Kindhearted people might of course think there was some ingenious way to disarm or defeat the enemy without too much bloodshed, and might imagine this is the true goal of the art of war, politics, or monetary policy.

The problems of legitimacy and compliance are the problems of compelling opponents, not allies, to fulfill our collective will. We're too emotional, we're too illogical, and we're too quick to suggest that once we pass those first two hurdles we are the gods of those who didn't. Such thoughts of divinity or divine mandate at-the-least are the greatest failures of mankind, not the least. Humanity can not be made fit into the box DAOs make logically and socially. It is sheer hubris that not only must we solve the problem of governing the ungovernable, but that we only get a single occasion with which to imagine all of the constitutional coding we need to do. As well as that, any point-of-view that voluntarism to signing up to this or that monetary cult's single occasion of constitutional coding will solve such limitations of imagination is absurd too.

Nature selects specializations under static conditions, but generalizations under shifting conditions. All human motivations point to extreme cases of shifts from deception and intrigue and so all human ingenuity must be carefully accounted for in generalizations. In other words, meta-arrangements of generalized decision-making institutions towards compelling opponents to work together is the optimal solution to the impossibility of permanently governing men. Even though in the end all empires have fallen due to issues present in their beginning, the opposing idea that specializing through simple governance protocols, as if it was ever a possibility to force whole nations above a voluntarist element, could be made to solve this is madness. There will always be tyrannies of the majority where a large number parasite the smaller more industrious members of any society. Likewise, the truth is that there will also be edge cases, and computers too single-minded to see what a majority rightly think must be done in order to simply survive.

If a computer were smart enough to cover the entirety of human ingenuity for self-destruction, plots, & counterplots then we would be using them to rule us all. It certainly is not true that constitutionalism solves any political problem permanently, it is simply true that simple fixed rulesets derived from entirely from monetary policy will perform inferior to constitutionalism. They will die off faster. Why? Because they have but one stick and punishment, impoverishment to a degree that you cease opposing those who can impoverish you. So the whole point becomes ensuring that you have the power to punish more-and-more others, but less-and-less have the power to punish you. Money reduces to an agency for punishing others, and wealth is hoarded only more rather than less. New economies might not have the stratification present in older economies, but getting in at the apex of a pyramid scheme doesn't suddenly not make it a pyramid scheme. DAOs are political pyramid schemes.

The only simple rule of politics and governing is this: there are no rules by which the insane may govern themselves.
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Lathe said:
You should probably take that medicine the doctors have been prescribing.
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I'll definitely do this if you can break my protocol.


Haim Arlosoroff said:
The idea again that simple governance protocols, as if that were even a possibility, could be made to solve this is madness.
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Right now, the protocol governs the truth. It hasn't lied once. I said DAOs are better than World War 3, not an instant utopia. There will be a lot of turbulence.

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Money runs the world. All that money is going on chain. Its a fallacy to say DAO thinking is a fallacy, that's where all the money is literally going. Unless you prefer centralized bankers.
People bitch about both & do no work to come up with real solutions

This is why I lost my fucking mind
 
My piece on the matter, if people were braver, kinder, resilient, moral and more tolerant. The world would be a better place, not all the problems would go away but it would be a massive improvement. especially if people had the balls to bring the hammer on those belonging to the worse of the worse.

But I thought that would even be happening.
 
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Mapface said:
Money runs the world. All that money is going on chain. Its a fallacy to say DAO thinking is a fallacy, that's where all the money is literally going. Unless you prefer centralized bankers.
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This is the long rebuttal of Web 3.0, I don't expect many to watch it. I expect most people to watch from the sidelines as others make choices for them in their lives, humanity's default behavior. However there it is for the people who want it.

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People bitch about both & do no work to come up with real solutions

This is why I lost my fucking mind
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So I prefer centralized bankers because I am a bad person, but you lost your fucking mind because you're forced to adopt DAO thinking for it's where all the money is literally going?

I say you prefer DAOs, and I'm reluctantly forced to use central bankers due to the lack of sound alternatives. Quite the logjam, maybe there should be a DAO which ensures complete ruination of one of us for our heresy? Is that the central innovation we're discussing, unmasked? At least have the guts to say so, so I can rejoin again about war and policy.

All I will say other than that is that DAOs are political pyramid schemes. Factually that is why you people all sound like cultists, pyramid schemes are economic cults. You managed to make a secular political cult out of economic theory. Bravo.

I won't join your cult. I hate the Anti-Christ.
 
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I am so distant.
My ability to communicate with people.

I suppose we all have our professions that come with their own rabbit holes.
My profession rest on the path to the singularity. Few are responsible for homing in on that path.

We wont be able to resolve things through words, only actions.
 

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Can't solve a problem without first defining it. Come up with a list of global-scale problems (or national level, if you prefer), a potential budget you want to work within, and a timescale for how long the solution needs to take. Once you've done that, then we can start focusing on these issues one by one, in order of priority.

Most global problems can be solved by an engineer fairly easily and relatively cheaply, like global warming or future energy needs. Some problems, like overpopulation, simply don't exist, and are largely a misunderstanding of how life works. Other problems, like third-world starvation, are purely political in nature and require political solutions that take ages to unfold.
 
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I suppose we all have our professions that come with their own rabbit holes.
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Mapface said:
My profession rest on the path to the singularity. Few are responsible for homing in on that path.
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Do you know what an S Curve is? Revenue suddenly and unexpectedly leveling out into a plateau? There are only so many Taylor Swift fans, you'd have to threaten to kill people to convince any more of the population at this point. Once you try to force infinite growth into a system which cannot sustain it, then you destroy the goose that laid the golden egg.
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Has a MLM scheme ever lacked the mindset you have? Does that make them less of a pyramid scheme?

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We wont be able to resolve things through words, only actions.
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Maybe Web3.0 and Metaverse usher in a new era for web users, crypto assets, and blockchain.

Maybe India fucked with the wrong Americans' grandmas. Americans trade Indian's money for useless governance tokens to vote on nonsense issues that govern the development and operations of failing blockchain project after blockchain project. Maybe India gets what it fucking deserves for all that Microsoft/banking scams.
 
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I've got money betting on sex offender cases

I'm busy taking action. No time to debate.
 
Most of the solutions are simple but they tend to be on the more "hostile" side towards certain kinds of people in power. People in power that dont have the best interests of the people in mind and will gladly abuse their power. I cant send names just in case my FBI stalker is watching.
But tis clear some people in charge of government and institutions have got to go.
 
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