How will civilization handle its dwindling resources?

oh, so you have very strong opinions about an author and his book, which you haven't read? opinion disregarded.
I've read guns germs and steel, not the other one. You read one book and research its foundations and find out it's built on ideology rather than facts and you don't trust the next book. Big surprise.

I'm also completely open and direct about the fact that I haven't read his other book exactly so that people can judge how valuable they find my criticism of the author.
 
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8 billion people burning through every single finite resource on the planet at an astronomical rate. How do you think mankind will solve this problem?

https://www.worldometers.info/oil/#:~:text=World%20Oil%20Reserves&text=The%20world%20has%20proven%20reserves,levels%20and%20excluding%20unproven%20reserves).
47 years of oil left, after that we are back to the 1850s. Meanwhile we are saying that climate change is the biggest threat to humanity.
Literally companies only look for resources for the next 50 or so years because well looking for resources is expensive go back 50 years and there were only 50 years of oil left etc.

Ah, the book where Diamond makes bizarre assumptions like "Vikings in Greenland didn't eat fish", despite written historical sources saying they did and the evidence being based on archaeology methods and tools from before the 1950s when small, fragile material like 800 year old fish bones were frequently destroyed or otherwise missed during excavation. A lot of Diamond's other assertions are also based on politically motivated Danish archaeology. Like did you know that archaeologists had to make sure their conclusions did not "offend communal harmony" (lest they not be published or denied grants and visas), so they had to downplay archaeological evidence of historical facts like the Inuit violently slaughtering the Norse and also tweak the data to try and state that medieval Norse farming/livestock raising was as ecologically devastating as the mostly failed farming programs the 20th century Danish government funded in Greenland.

Got a cite on that, that sounds like an interesting read.
 
I disagree with the premise that we are going to run out of any strategic resource in the next 100 years.
 
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I'm gonna spoiler this post since it's a little off-topic.
it's interesting to me that, on one hand, you seem to be relying on a claim made by a yt content creator (whom i greatly enjoy, btw) to dismiss diamond as a reputable author, while on the other hand, that same yt content creator has documented that the failure of the greenland vikings was a direct result of their inability to adapt to, and overcome, the clearly-established criteria for collapse that is discussed in diamond's book:
I have never watched this Youtube content creator, I know about it because I enjoy reading about topics like this. In any case, the assertion is false. The majority of the Greenland Norse diet by the 14th century consisted of dairy, seal, and reindeer.
- self-inflicted environmental problems? yep, they deforested the land for pasture and firewood.
That's a better argument for Iceland's problems but is irrelevant to Greenland. There was a single forest in all of Greenland, and it was barely worthy of the name. Yes, it got chopped down, but it didn't contribute to any particular issues since the Greenland Norse mostly used driftwood, dung, and seal oil (oil lamps have been discovered in ruins) as fuel, and probably also transported wood from Labrador. That goes against the assertion that the Greenland Norse somehow didn't know how to adapt. As for the issue with pasture, that's also completely false since the claim is based on a 1940s era study which the archaeologist himself said "the erosion may have come from a modern Inuit sheep farm" (but of course wasn't allowed to confirm it because that would mean the Danish government was doing sheep farming worse than medieval peasants). Modern studies of glacial lakes show the erosion rate only slightly increased in the Norse era and the greatest erosion came from modern sheep farming.

Any claim that the Norse pastures were destructive can be proven dead wrong by simple pictures. The fertile areas were the most intensely used pastures, made fertile because they mixed manure and seaweed and spread it all across there every spring for centuries.
- climate change? yep, temperatures dropped, sea ice expanded, and soils became more salinized.
There are ditches at Greenland Norse farm sites used for drainage because the same technique was used in coastal Norway since the Bronze Age. The temperature would not have been a problem because there are always warm years among the cold years and they barely grew grain to begin with. The increase in sea ice only shortened the sailing season by a few weeks and closed a route rarely used (the Iceland - Greenland route), so was insignificant on the ability to obtain food or even trade goods.
- problems with friendly trade partners? yep, the materials from europe ceased with the arrival of the plague.
- problems with neighboring enemies? yep, with the indigenous of both greenland and north america.
This is mostly true (Europe stopped sending ships because the Hanseatic League were greedy bastards not willing to help Denmark trade with Greenland) and the real reason behind the collapse of Greenland. There is archaeological evidence of destruction and there is written evidence from European sources and oral evidence from Greenland Inuit stories.
- political, economic, and social problems? yep, they failed to adequetely adapt their culture to their needs.
Which is false because they raised fewer cattle and more sheep/goats, stopped growing grain, hunted more seals, and even tried to avoid conflict with the Inuit by hunting seal, walrus, etc. in Labrador instead. It's also known that some Greenland Inuit tools (IIRC their nets) are borrowed from the Norse and originated as imitations of nets they stole.

So overall Jared Diamond's point in regards to Greenland is false. Much like how his Easter Island hypothesis also has serious holes in it.
Got a cite on that, that sounds like an interesting read.
Norse Greenland: Viking Peasants in the Arctic

It's on Libgen and if you enjoy reading about the gritty details of how medieval Norse society actually functioned and is surprisingly politically incorrect for an academic book published in 2019.
 
Wasn't our oil supply supposed to run out sometime in the 90's or some shit?
It's the same shit with climate change. So-called "experts" claiming the world will go to shit in 10 years. Then 10 years later and the world is still functioning and we still have oil and the planet has not been completely flooded.
 
As X resource runs low the value of it increases and people look harder. They find more. Also, they start looking for alternatives. Problem solved. Problem can't be solved forever that way, but good enough.

Some histrionic faggot (Paul Ehrlich?) once made a bet with an economist, he could name ANY resources he wanted and he'd win if even one of them was more expensive decades down the line. Lost the bet. Our reserves of stuff (like oil, trees, etc.) have mostly been expanding too.

But yeah, the world's about to end, we're about to overpopulate to death (even though birthrates are crashing everywhere), and climate change is going to kill us (10 years from now, running on forty years).
 
Bullshit.
that precipitated the first pandemic of bubonic plague
Neither the antonine plague nor cyprian plague were anywhere close to bubonic plague, dumb.
“This is why culture matters so much,” Hoyer said.
I thought there was no culture, that we had no culture, so what's the deal? we have culture now? whitey has culture?.
to make reforms, to make adaptations, whether that’s divesting from fossil fuels or changing the way that food systems work.”
There he goes with that gay shit nobody cares about.
Degroot has identified a number of ways that societies adapted to a changing environment across millennia: Migration
I don't have enough fingers to count all the civilizations that went to absolute shit due to uncontrolled migration, and not even one case of a net benefit of migration where said benefit didn't go to the migrant at the expense of those already there, including the colonization of the americas or more recently israel.
. Around 2010, he predicted that unrest in America would start getting serious around 2020. Then, right on schedule, the Covid-19 pandemic arrived
Taking credit for a literal black swan event...
and terrorist attacks in the headlines
Funny how they don't say which terrorist attacks.

And gun violence only seems to be a problem in a certain country with a massive mental health crisis combined with a collapsing middle class, go figure.
300,000 views, how is that shit viral?
The Complexity Science Hub’s study suggests that collapse itself could be considered an adaptation
"Civilization will collapse AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!".

Seriously, no historian considers the brit dark age after the romans left to have been a good thing, this is the cope of the century.
Or how rainwater globally is no longer safe to drink.
What? since when?
 
Rome did not collapse from a fucking volcano. Rome didn't even collapse in the 5th century - the Eastern Rome was still trucking and not even in its best form ever. The Western Empire was always poor, always in trouble, in a bad position compared to Constantinople being in the center of the most profitable trade routes at the time and at a great defensive position.

Both Eastern and Western Rome collapsed mainly due to being invaded while their rulers were too busy infighting or allying with the invaders to depose whatever political enemies they had at the time. They also didn't collapse overnight - Western Empire was in agony from the proto-feudalism latifundium system, Eastern was doomed after Battle of Manzikert.
 
Rich people get the remaining resources, you get to own nothing and live in a pod. Simple as.
 
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