How would someone like Null find a partner?

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This is going to sound like an incel talking point, but it's true. On average, women outside of the western world place more value on long-term planning and intelligence/ability to generate income. The value of these things has declined in the western world due to a combination of devaluation of men/masculine traits in media and welfare benefits. People think of big ole' ghetto mamas being the ones getting food stamps, and they surely do, but so does every tattooed single mom on Tinder making duck lips and squeezing together her tits.

If you combine SNAP, TANF, utility assistance, housing assistance, day care subsidies (the amounts vary by state in the US), a single mom of two kids gets $1,000-$1,500 a month. Throw in child support, which can be successfully collected by the state from anyone with a W2 job at no expense to the mother and you've got substantially more (variable based on the income of the father). With the exception of TANF, all of this is sustainable until the kids emancipate. If the non-custodial father(s) make a decent salary, a jobless single mom can easily make as much money as someone with an entry-level degree-requiring job makes after taxes. These women have every reason to discount intelligence and choose men to date based on looks alone.

Outside of the Western World, where people are expected to support themselves (including women being expected to find a reasonable partner), someone like Null is more valued than he is in the US.
 
People can think whatever they want about me, but I'm pretty well-adjusted socially. I come across educated and worldly. I know a lot about history and international politics. I can say something honest and flattering about any culture or country. If people ask what my job is, I say I work online as a web developer (not a lie). If they ask why I live in their country, I say it's because I can live anywhere I want and I have friends locally (also not a lie).

I realized a few years ago that trying to hook up online, especially in my position of power, is a bad look and opens the door to serious problems, so I stopped. If someone emails me asking to hook up I usually just reply with a clip of Nick Fuentes saying "no e-girls, never". A lot of people interpret this as asexuality but I don't care.

There's no issues and I'm not lonely. Nobody cares about Internet shit. If I meet someone I want to hook up with very long term, chances are they're going to be cool with whatever. If they're not, probably wasn't meant to be. I'm not in a hurry. Anyone who believes shit about me on the Internet isn't someone I want to be friends with.

My political takes don't matter. In my experience, women find risque humor more attractive than being a line towing faggot who's afraid of offending immigrants or gays. If you don't believe me that's fine, I'm not going to argue. Maybe it's just women in this area of the world.

I also don't need help. Stop asking me to hook up with people. I'm not interested in dating someone 'Internet famous'. I'm not going to start a family with someone who has BPD or schizophrenia. I'm not desperate. I find it insulting so many people think I am. If I start a family it will be on my own terms.
When you meet the woman of your dreams I hope you show her this post.
 
This is going to sound like an incel talking point, but it's true. On average, women outside of the western world place more value on long-term planning and intelligence/ability to generate income. The value of these things has declined in the western world due to a combination of devaluation of men/masculine traits in media and welfare benefits. People think of big ole' ghetto mamas being the ones getting food stamps, and they surely do, but so does every tattooed single mom on Tinder making duck lips and squeezing together her tits.

If you combine SNAP, TANF, utility assistance, housing assistance, day care subsidies (the amounts vary by state in the US), a single mom of two kids gets $1,000-$1,500 a month. Throw in child support, which can be successfully collected by the state from anyone with a W2 job at no expense to the mother and you've got substantially more (variable based on the income of the father). With the exception of TANF, all of this is sustainable until the kids emancipate. If the non-custodial father(s) make a decent salary, a jobless single mom can easily make as much money as someone with an entry-level degree-requiring job makes after taxes. These women have every reason to discount intelligence and choose men to date based on looks alone.

Outside of the Western World, where people are expected to support themselves (including women being expected to find a reasonable partner), someone like Null is more valued than he is in the US.
Even without welfare the Western economy is set up to cater to high-time preference lifestyles. Contingency plans? Insurance will cover it. Save up for the car/house? Just get it financed, you won't own it until it's time to throw it away/resell it but who gives a shit? Learning to repair things? You'll throw it away once the warranty is up anyhow. &c. &c.
 
I talk to myself like a normal person.

I was very socially isolated from a young age and I'm probably more social online and off now than ever before. If I ever want to socialize I can start a stream and talk to 2000 people. I don't know how it's possible for me to feel alone.
this is the most depressing thing I've read in a while
 
I'm not educated
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
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You are the dumbest person on the site and coincidentally black...
 
Lol @ posts trying to throw pity.

I'll reiterate something I've said on live: you don't know me. You know literally nothing about me except what I tell you, and since Vordrak became a thing I don't say anything that can be jeopardized. I don't even talk about some multiplayer games I like because I don't want people looking for me.

Assume whatever you want. I could not care less.
 
If your only hobby is the computer OP it's time to get off the computer.

If that's a bit daunting. Use a social app or look online for events in your area. It doesn't need to start with dating, in fact it really shouldn't start with dating because; speaking as the gay freind and therefore the supreme oracle and confidant for all women internationally (official TM) not having a circle of freinds is something they notice, and people you play games with online don't count. It won't put them off entirely if they're into you, but it sounds like the OP was written by someone who is a little bit more introverted and more of a wallflower.
 
If your only hobby is the computer OP it's time to get off the computer.

If that's a bit daunting. Use a social app or look online for events in your area. It doesn't need to start with dating, in fact it really shouldn't start with dating because; speaking as the gay freind and therefore the supreme oracle and confidant for all women internationally (official TM) not having a circle of freinds is something they notice, and people you play games with online don't count. It won't put them off entirely if they're into you, but it sounds like the OP was written by someone who is a little bit more introverted and more of a wallflower.
Kinda forgot for a second I'M the OP.

I'll try not to PL too much, but I want to at least respond.
First, you're correct that I'm both of these things.

Second, my hobbies really are mostly working out, playing vidya and reading. The last 2 are introverted hobbies, working out is also because of where I live. There is no gym here. In fact, and thats my main problem, there is NOTHING here. Events? Hah!

Germany in general is super fucking boring, this place is probably in the top 10 of boring. Germans also are pretty closed up socially. I remember talking to a greek friend of mine and he basically said "just talk to them and compliment them bro". Yeah, if I want to be the town weirdo, I could do that. We don't do that here. Maybe in our cities and/or if you're brown, but not here and not me.

Here is what happens with women in my town: They are done with school, leave to "live life", get knocked up, and come back with husband and kids to live the safest life anyone has ever lived. This place is super boring. The last time someone got robbed my first reaction was " fucking finally, something happened".

I'm absolutely able and even very good at holding proper conversations (even if I don't know what I'm talking about), but I do hate small talk with a passion. I also am admittedly kind of a misanthrope, mostly because of my upbringing. This all makes this very difficult. My usual approach to conversation is: Could we both be doing more useful stuff with our time right now? If I feel the answer is yes, I feel like I'm wasting the time of the other person, and I don't like that.

There are other issues, mostly because of past failures on my part, but all in all, right now, I'm just a pretty average normal dude and its mostly my location that fucks me over.

But leaving isn't the option right now. I have responsibilities.
 
>imagine creating this thread
>imagine caring about the uberjanny of the website
>imagine trying to cozy up to someone who likes to fly off the handle (regardless of how he tries to portray himself, his previous Internet trail will never be wiped off)
>imagine being nosy about someone else's life
>imagine imagining.
 
I dont know much about Null but check out the fine girl that Kim Dotcom is having a family with and the creator of Minecraft had one for a while too.

Null isn't in the big boy leagues, sure. But women that focus on and are into and/or successful/independent men who carve their own way through stuff don't really care. In many cases they can be a bit of a gold digger, in other cases they can be a bit weird and twisted themselves. But overall the biggest danger is getting someone who is essentially a honeypot or who is a crackpot. The problem is not not getting someone.

See Assange that probably landed himself one of each. That got him nearly destroyed, but now he has someone that´s sticking with him, having his children and supporting him despite all he´s going through. And Assange has nothing left, no money for sure and he by all accounts has a bit of an odd personality off camera.


All you need is some kind of monetary stability and sometimes you don't even need that. But one thing you need more than all of this is balls, you can be somewhat maladjusted and a nerd, but being a cucked faggot who has barely left his home is a big nono. Clearly Null has the means and the balls to travel the world, fuck with his enemies and follow his dreams, at least to an extent, even though he as an explosive temper and keeps fucking up from time to time.


An acquiantance/friend of mine that I met in University had a boyfriend who is at least on the surface a bit like Null tries to portray himself here. Withdrawn, cryptic. He was paying for the apartment she was staying in, he worked around the world with various projects of his online, he was from what I could gather not employed by anyone in particular. I never saw him. Its an alternative at least. She was a bit of a femme fatale, a bit maintaince sure, but seemed quite loving of him and never said more about him than she needed to, I probably pried too much since I was interested in the setup - and her.

Ive also had the pleasure to interview a person accused of domestic terrorism on the radical left who while being a bit of a nerd he was fit and socially easy to interact with. I found talking to him an absolute blast and Im sure that a lot of women would too. So its not about having time for people necessarily and its not about being a "good guy" or "adjusted" in normal society.


I've probably failed more in life than Null, but in times when I felt good and felt like I was on the right path, finding someone to socialize with wasn´t a problem, inviting them to my life though is. And I think Null is making too much light of his complicated life and especially history (- mine which is much less complicated than his is still ha hassle) . I think the biggest problem is not finding someone, nor finding someone who likes his personality or what he does. But finding someone who can live with all the ups and downs of it.


The Journalist who exposed CIAs drugtrade in his article had his wife leave him because despite being someone who supposedly liked to stick it to the man, when it actually came to playing ball it was too much. He supposedly killed himself later.

KimDotcom had his house raided by SWAT in armored vehicles and two helicopters. I mean he has a lot of money but finding someone that won't ditch you then and take half of it and the kids is the tough part. Maybe they have a prenup. Who knows.

McAfees girlfriend stuck with him to the end, despite his issues and his weird feitshes and what not. Who knows what their relationship really was though. But she seemed to share in his lust for adventure and his kind of independent attitude. They seemed to be able to share a quiet moment just as well as crazy drive through the jungle escaping authorities.


@OP. I think youre not like Null, at least the way you present yourself. One statement in particular makes me think that youre too introverted and/or too autistic.
The way you said that when you are with someone and talking with them you just think about how you both could be doing something more fun/interesting.

Null has a deep fascination with people and what makes them tick and how they work. When you're looking for someone who will complete you and who you will form a family with you better be interested in them. Being there, then with them talking to them is more interesting than doing something. Maybe for you, if mutual interest is the most important thing then you probably couldn't easily find someone in Nulls position, and for you the easiest way is to find someone through work or a mutual project.

But yeah, that doesn't really seem like Null necessarily.
 
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>imagine creating this thread
>imagine caring about the uberjanny of the website
>imagine trying to cozy up to someone who likes to fly off the handle (regardless of how he tries to portray himself, his previous Internet trail will never be wiped off)
>imagine being nosy about someone else's life
>imagine imagining.
same tbh

@OP. I think youre not like Null, at least the way you present yourself. One statement in particular makes me think that youre too introverted and/or too autistic.
The way you said that when you are with someone and talking with them you just think about how you both could be doing something more fun/interesting.
In no way did I want to imply I'm similiar to null, I'm definitely not. The only similarity I saw was that we both have simply very little opportunity to even find women to be interested in. And from what he wrote here, I was apparently wrong on that count.

No autism though. I think.
 
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