I am blocking Germany and Austria

Blobby's Murder Knife said:
It is/isn't a law there. It is weird. I mean a cop in the US might kick you in the nuts for calling his mother a cunt, but their is no additional charge he can bring for that and in fact he could be sued for the battery. Somehow in Germany there is a bureaucratic recourse in the quasilegal sense for being insulted. I have as many affirm it as deny it so it is a very odd area of the law there.

Edit: There is the concept of contempt of court here where you can be fined or jailed for insulting the court, but not out on the field with police.
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StGB §185 Beleidigung (Insult)

Calling a cop "Hurensohn" (son of a bitch) qualifies very easily for a 185er trial. Calling anyone a sob can get you into legal trouble.
 
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Spud gun said:
I'm just surprised that Britbongistan wasn't the first given how cucked it is there.
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Despite the dumb shit here, unlike Germany, there's no active monitoring of citzens' web activity to find naughty thinkers. Not yet. Instead, the entire apparatus is passive and only responds to reports by the "offended", which usually don't get very far unless someone has a big stick up their behind, or the identity of the post is already known. The only time the police would actively pursue such things is if someone fedposts and it gets reported to them, at which point they'd invoke the various terrorism-related laws in order to gather identifying information. That would mean first going to Null, to demand IP addresses, then tracing that to the ISP, then requesting the ISP identify the user. Null may or may not hand over that initial information.

The point is, just accessing KF isn't enough to get your shit pushed in by the police. Someone has to make a complaint and then the oinkers have to actually give a toss.

Until the UK government decides to implement the same sort of active pursuit of "offensive" material as Germany, Null has no reason to block the UK. Other than his hatred of all things British, of course.
 
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War ja klar. Ihr könnt mich mal, ihr dummen Woke-Wichser. Lutscht 'nen Negerschwanz und heult euch wegen Gendersternchen in den Schlaf. Ihr werdet niemals was anderes sein als perverse Assis in Frauenkleidern. Und das sage ich jedem gerne ins Gesicht, und lasse es mir auch nicht verbieten. Amen, ich habe fertig. Und schnappe mir 'nen VPN...
 
The difference between the US and Europe is one, the first amendment. Secondly-European countries and the EU are much much more sensitive towards genuinely revolutionary movements(i.e. fascism)-hate speech laws, as well as policies in place to ensure nationalist parties can never win elections(such as banning parties), keep discontent smothered under a velvet fist.

In the US you can say what you want, so long as the ADL doesn't demand you be removed from the airwaves, or your ISP provider cuts off service, or you are extorted for billions of dollars to made an example of.

So, free speech is ultimately nonexistent-in a meaningful sense-that is free speech as a vehicle for poltiical and social change, unmolested. You can shout "I hate kikes and niggers" on an American street, but be ignored, in Europe you go to jail.

These laws and policies are the bedrock of the post war order-and will not be changed by appeals to free speech, or an open market place of ideas-the peopke that set them in place, know that they are a bulwark against being hung from lampposts.
 
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Shamash said:
The difference between the US and Europe is one, the first amendment. Secondly-European countries and the EU are much much more sensitive towards genuinely revolutionary movements(i.e. fascism)-hate speech laws, as well as policies in place to ensure nationalist parties can never win elections(such as banning parties), keep discontent smothered under a velvet fist.

In the US you can say what you want, so long as the ADL doesn't demand you be removed from the airwaves, or your ISP provider cuts off service, or you are extorted for billions of dollars to made an example of.

So, free speech is ultimately nonexistent-in a meaningful sense-that is free speech as a vehicle for poltiical and social change, unmolested. You can shout "I hate kikes and niggers" on an American street, but be ignored, in Europe you go to jail.

These laws and policies are the bedrock of the post war order-and will not be changed by appeals to free speech, or an open market place of ideas-the peopke that set them in place, know that they are a bulwark against being hung from lampposts.
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>The difference between the US and Europe is one, the first amendment. Secondly-European countries

"Europe" in not a monolithical entity, it comprises countries like the UK or the Holy See where the head of State is the head of the State religion and countries like France that try to keep religion away from the State. European countries can be very different.

>genuinely revolutionary movements(i.e. fascism)

Fascism happened in 1922. How would that be revolutionary now? Seems quite conservative to me actually to want to go back say, as an example, to the 1920s in Italy, the 1940s in Germany, the 1970s in Greece, Spain and Portugal.

>policies in place to ensure nationalist parties can never win elections(such as banning parties)

who won the elections in Italy the other day? Who is in charge of Hungary? Is the government of Poland anti-nationalist?

There are constitutional bans against the reconstruction of the fascist party (Italy) and against "totalitarian" (i.e. Nazi or Communist) parties (Poland). Germany bans parties that are deemed to be actively against the constitutional order.

And suprise! in the US, if a party is considered a terrorist organisation, it can surely be shut down. Try making a party of ISIS brethren or of Italian mobsters, see how long they last. Try to register Violent Overthrow LLC.

>You can shout "I hate kikes and niggers" on an American street, but be ignored,

please try, I am sure you will be completely ignored like you say and nobody will bother you.
 
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Shamash said:
So, free speech is ultimately nonexistent-in a meaningful sense-that is free speech as a vehicle for poltiical and social change, unmolested.
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Only if you think free speech is something the government gives you and aren't willing to shed blood to stop it from taking it away from you.
 
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>The difference between the US and Europe is one, the first amendment. Secondly-European countries

"Europe" in not a monolithical entity, it comprises countries like the UK or the Holy See where the head of State is the head of the State religion and countries like France that try to keep religion away from the State. European countries can be very different.

>genuinely revolutionary movements(i.e. fascism)

Fascism happened in 1922. How would that be revolutionary now? Seems quite conservative to me actually to want to go back say, as an example, to the 1920s in Italy, the 1940s in Germany, the 1970s in Greece, Spain and Portugal.

>policies in place to ensure nationalist parties can never win elections(such as banning parties)

who won the elections in Italy the other day? Who is in charge of Hungary? Is the government of Poland anti-nationalist?

There are constitutional bans against the reconstruction of the fascist party (Italy) and against "totalitarian" (i.e. Nazi or Communist) parties (Poland). Germany bans parties that are deemed to be actively against the constitutional order.

And suprise! in the US, if a party is considered a terrorist organisation, it can surely be shut down. Try making a party of ISIS brethren or of Italian mobsters, see how long they last. Try to register Violent Overthrow LLC.

>You can shout "I hate kikes and niggers" on an American street, but be ignored,

please try, I am sure you will be completely ignored like you say and nobody will bother you.
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By revolutionary I mean overturning the post 1945 order. Which is democracy, liberalism and anti racism.

“European countries can be very different”-incredible non sequitur. European Union law applies to all of them. Except non EU members(that often incitement laws anyway).

The French leading parties literally will close ranks to stop FN from coming to power-this has been acknowledged to exist. Greece banned Golden Dawn. Any Nazi imagery gets a right wing party in Germany banned, and the BNP was destroyed.

Regarding American law-there’s nothing stopping you from forming an Islamic sharia party-that agrees with everything ISIS does, just blowing stuff up and be heading people gets you classified as a criminal organization.

Ignored or attacked by Antifa mobs-not directly retaliated against by the state.
 
it was a good time riding with you niggas. o7
@Null I'd ask to consider letting current users remain being able to use the site, but if that's not possible then I understand
 
A step ahead of the cyber police and a measure to encourage VPN usage. If Germany blocked the farms it’d be a minor consolation prize for the troons, they don’t even have that much to look forward to now.
 
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