🐱 I am No Man

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In the film “Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King” a pivotal scene involves Arwen confronting the dreaded Witch King. During their fight, the Witch King declares “No man can kill me.” Arwen responds with the line “I am no Man” before dispatching the Witch King by stabbing him in the face.

It took me years into adulthood to fully realize that I was nonbinary, that I could say, at least in a sense, that I was “no man”. Witch Kings beware!

Given the history between police and the queer community, it was not an easy decision on my part to pursue a career in law enforcement. I know about the Stonewall Riots and the police harassment that preceded them.

Recently, I was accepted into the law enforcement program here at Minnesota State University, Mankato. It wasn’t easy, in part due to having to pass a psychological exam that shockingly enough, included very specific questions about gender identity and sexual orientation.

One would think that with discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity having been rendered illegal in the state of Minnesota in the early 90s, that such questions would never come up when applying for a job or to an academic program. Alas, one would be mistaken in making that presumption.

Objections to psych exams for police officers asking questions about sexual orientation go back a long ways. In 1988, Eric Rofes, the then director of the Gay and Lesbian Community Center in West Hollywood, said to the Los Angeles Times “it is outrageous in 1988 that it is still on the books,” referring to the inclusion of questions regarding sexual orientation being asked of police recruits. (Controversial Test for Police May Be Revised, Los Angeles Times, 3/10/1988)

It has been decades since the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality as a mental illness from the DSM and gender identity disorder is no longer included in current editions.

Objections by the LGBTQ community to our identities being seen as a mental illness, predate Stonewall even.
When the then president of the Mattachine Society, (an early national gay rights org) Frank Kameny visited MSU Mankato in May of 1969, he is described in The Reporter as arguing that “homosexuality” is not a psychological problem, but a sociological one caused by homophobia. (Majority of Homosexuals Untroubled, says Kameny, The Reporter, 5/7/1969)
I have faced worse forms of discrimination than being asked about my gender identity and sexuality on a psych exam. But I can not think of another example of one so institutionally and systemically ingrained.

When I raised concerns about being asked what I felt were inappropriate and invasive questions about gender identity and sexuality, I was informed by the psychiatrist that the test I had been given, the Minnesota Multiphasic Inventory known as the MMPI was “the gold standard” for police psych exams.

As it were, the United States abandoned the gold standard in 1971. Given the need for police departments to diversify their ranks, perhaps the practice of explicitly asking police applicants unnecessary questions about their gender and sexuality should be abandoned as well.
 
As everyone knows by now, I hope, we simply can't afford to risk our precious faggots in combat.
 
The MMPI is problematic for someone who is gay or non-binary, or any of that stuff. The test was designed with the archetype of a straight, white person in their 20-30's in the latter half of the 20th century. It actually has measures of masculinity and femininity, "conflict about sexual identity", "sex role confusion or heterosexual adjustment problems", etc... It's easy to see, given those measures, that gay, etc... people were never taken into consideration with regard to this psych. eval. test.
 
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The MMPI is problematic for someone who is gay or non-binary, or any of that stuff. The test was designed with the archetype of a straight, white person in their 20-30's in the latter half of the 20th century. It actually has measures of masculinity and femininity, "conflict about sexual identity", "sex role confusion or heterosexual adjustment problems", etc... It's easy to see, given those measures, that gay, etc... people were never taken into consideration with regard to this psych. eval. test.
the un-pozzable neghole
 
A fucking Bob Chipman doppelganger claiming to be just like the lovely warfu Eowyn should be forced to run and do push-ups, without food, water, or rest, until he pukes. Then he should be forced to clean it up.
I've always personally been a fan of an all-you-can eat lunch with lots of typical favorite foods immediately prior. 99/100 times they don't know to keep it light, they fight puking, and it is advanced misery throughout. High likelihood they won't be able to eat at least one thing anymore. People that have been there before know to just force a Lohan-level purge immediately and they're good to go. Breaking minds or bodies s just pedestrian and indulging in base urges. Breaking souls is how you affect real change.
 
It's just a word play. I'm sure a man could have killed him too, as in a human adult with a penis. Eowyn was at the right place at the right time. Her sex was irrelevant.
Hate to be that UBER nerd, but it was an prophecy given by an elf with foresight hundreds of years earlier. Basically a previous King of Gondor wanted to try to kill the Witch King, and the elf was like..."dude bro, don't try, my elf senses are tingling. He's not going to be killed by a man."

Cue him being killed by a hobbit and a woman.

Also, the absolute state of this moron....if he can't be assed to check if he got one of the three women in LOTR mixed up with another one....does he honestly expect anyone to believe a single 'history factoid' that comes out of his gormless mouth?
 
What’s even better is that (although Eowyn did basically say that in the book), if Arwen said it, it’d be even more appropriate, as she is an elf and not of the race of men.
I believe the books specified that "no man or elf" may slay him. Arwen is no man, but she is an elf, so no go there.
 
It's just a word play. I'm sure a man could have killed him too, as in a human adult with a penis. Eowyn was at the right place at the right time. Her sex was irrelevant.
it was a prophecy that he would be killed by no man, which obviously means you're gonna get it from a dwarf or something
 
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it was a prophecy that he would be killed by no man, which obviously means you're gonna get it from a dwarf or something

"He will not return to these lands. Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man shall he fall."

Glorfindel's prophecy.

Prophecy is always a tricky thing. It's an awkward concept to get the noodle around, the idea that technically the Witch King could have been defeated, but because his death had been foreseen in a specific way in the future, it didn't matter if he technically could have been defeated, because he actually couldn't have been. But totally appropriate for Middle Earth... Tolkien was a huge Anglo-Saxon/Norse history and mythology guy, and would have been very well acquainted with wyrd/urðr , the idea that destiny is a thing.
 
It's just a word play. I'm sure a man could have killed him too, as in a human adult with a penis. Eowyn was at the right place at the right time. Her sex was irrelevant.
It was literal prophesy a renowned elf king said during battle with the Witch King due to magical intuition. Eowyn didn't kill the Witch King alone either, a Hobbit (Merry) dropped the spells shielding him from mortal danger. It's a call back to MacBeth and Ewoyn is an interesting character due to her relationship with Theoden. She's effectively his heir and her filial bond/ fear of being caged is really good.

I prefer the animated Eowyn over the movie because it's a little cheesy, but it really does highlight Eoywn ready to die for father figure.
 
I love Lord of the Rings but Eowyns actress has a lazy eye I cannot unsee.

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