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The thing is, a lot of times psychiatrists (or even just general practitioners or nurse practitioners if you go into your regular family doctor first and then get a referral) will prescribe meds without giving you any kind of formal diagnosis. An anti-depressant and an anti-psychotic that they will call a mood stabilizer ‘to help the anti depressant work better’ is not at all an uncommon combination to be prescribed on a first visit. After that they’ll just seemingly arbitrarily up the dosage every time they see you for five minutes after making you wait an hour past your appointment. They may never even outright say “I diagnose you with X” (unless you ask) but still be prescribing meds from day 1. That’s what I’ve observed in America, anyway.
 
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I think it is more common in the states. I guess it's about money? I know here it's more common for kids to be prescribed stimulants for ADD than it is in other countries. I think it's actually rare here to walk into a psych place and be told you are fine and don't need any medications and walk out without any. So AL is going into place wanting to be diagnosed so they'll give her any diagnosis that fits the symptoms in the dsm and maybe whatever she told them- like if she said her mom has bipolar then they figure it's highly likely she does to. do other countries use the dsm? since alot of symptoms will overlap I think it's hard to diagnosis from that but I guess it's easier for the first visit.

as for just talk therapy I think that can be a more personal thing for someone to decide if they want to sit and talk to someone or not. Since someone discovered the fatty counselor maybe AL is just going there for pre weight loss surgery requirements.

I have never heard of an actual professional doing same day diagnosis. The script thing isn't uncommon. Namely because they can get a general idea of problems. Unless the person is really bad off <extreme depression> they won't write a script the day of.

I don't know what places you people go to where this song and dance would be an actuality, but no one could keep their license if they were doing this. If you want to share where this is going on, I need to go fake about 10 disorders to get the good drugs that make you totally zombie out and be high af off them.

Also there is no way she basically got a previous RX refilled. She has no doctor paper work for them to check on. Nor would a mental health care professional be the one to just refill a RX based off previous use. A PCD <primary care doctor> would do that, and hamber has none.
 
I still don't believe she ever set foot hoof into a Doctor's office of any kind at all, because all logic just goes out the fucking window if I allow myself to think for even a second that any Doctor would talk to her or diagnose her or prescribe her anything at all without even mentioning her massive, horrific fucking obese weight.
 
I still don't believe she ever set foot hoof into a Doctor's office of any kind at all, because all logic just goes out the fucking window if I allow myself to think for even a second that any Doctor would talk to her or diagnose her or prescribe her anything at all without even mentioning her massive, horrific fucking obese weight.
Bringing up her weight would be fatshaming. Like, does her doctor think she doesn't know she's fat? Shame is bad for her health!

Thankfully, Ragen Chastain has tips for how People of Size can deal with their fatphobic doctors.
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Oh don't worry, pal.
At least for me ..... I've been calling the fact she even heaved that massive, lardy shelf ass into a Case Worker's office a gigantic lie from second one. We saw them buy some blinds (to sass the haydurs who have been pointing out the blankets on their windows) and stuff their faces in Ruby Tuesday. Fatty Boom Boom is lying about absolutely god damn everything. No Psychiatrist, no diagnosies, no Bipolar, no anything.

It does happen (getting meds on the same day) but rare here in California. Especially if you have comorbidities. She weighs 600 pounds, and any doctor would want to do some sort of testing before writing a new script. Even if it's a CBC or urine test. Some of these psych drugs can affect your liver, kidneys, etc. Also, she's a new patient, and it would be unwise not to have some testing done just to cover their arss. Especially knowing her BP was at stroke level when she was on phentermine (or so she says). Then again, I doubt she even mentioned that to "the girl".

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It does happen (getting meds on the same day) but rare here in California. Especially if you have comorbidities. She weighs 600 pounds, and any doctor would want to do some sort of testing before writing a new script. Even if it's a CBC or urine test. Some of these psych drugs can affect your liver, kidneys, etc. Also, she's a new patient, and it would be unwise not to have some testing done just to cover their arss. Especially knowing her BP was at stroke level when she was on phentermine (or so she says). Then again, I doubt she even mentioned that to "the girl".

JMO
I honestly think she went and the "doctor" who seems like a total quack probably said that she could likely have these disorders and that they would explore them going forward. I think most competent (and I stress competent) doctors would prescribe a mood stabilizer if they suspect bipolar, but the fact that they didn't even give her a type of bipolar is suspicious. There are different types and each is treated a bit differently so it would be highly unlikely she was actually diagnosed with it. They may have done the mood stabilizer to level her out and then see where it goes from there, but it's highly unethical to diagnose someone with something that serious in the very first session.
 
This is long-its for our European friends: I think people over the pond need to be careful when saying. “In America...”. The truth is, we are individual states, like you are countries. We are united in most ways by the constitution/federal government-however we also have many individual differences state to state.

Healthcare can be different depending on where you are. To complicated state laws, each individual insurance company has its own rules and procedures. Kaiser is very different than Blue Cross, for example.

Frankly. I know nothing about how psychiatry or mental problems work, but have a lot of experience in a harder science/disease. (scans and tests determine 100% what is wrong.)

So prescriptions: in my experience a doctor can prescribe something and the insurance can say no, which you can appeal, or they make you try and fail on a different drug first. They have a list of meds to try before you get to the one you may want. This necessity depends on the illness, of course, and doctors can write up reasons why only that drug works. Same thing for tests-a doctor might request an MRI scan and insurance may say a CT should be done instead.

California , for example, is very strict with controlled substances. They are tracked by the attorney general’s office. (Each time a doctor prescribes one, he logs into the AGs office, which then sends his phone a code, once he inputs the code he can prescribe the drug. ) Any doctor can see this, so doctor shopping is rare in CA now. (Doctors are supposed to look, but sometimes they don’t.) If your insurance covers it ,the pharmacy requests from the insurance, (and now The IDC10 has to be written on the prescription). If they don’t approve you can pay cash but the pharmacies also track it. So much of the problem is illegal drugs from China and Mexico these days.

But I know other states don’t have this system yet. The hope is “big data” will tie all this together. Medical privacy is non-existent in my state despite all the HIPPA stuff

Where I am a nurse practitioner can prescribe even highly scheduled drugs under the supervision of a doctor.

Again, I don’t know about psychiatric, but most aren’t scheduled so it’s probably much easier.

What other state’s do could be very different. This is why there is so much argument about it. I suspect in rural Kentucky there aren’t enough doctors, and across the entire country there aren't enough PCPs, so in those areas it may be very common to have a PA prescribe something at first appointment. I imagine that they have the kind of patients who don’t keep up with regular care, have trouble getting around , cant afford or they don’t have convenient testing facilities so they use their judgment, and so they may prescribe a month’s worth of drugs to see if it helps.

Anyway, long story short-US healthcare is not heavily regulated by the federal government yet (with exceptions like Medicare, etc) and so a lot of it is up to insurance companies and states.

Since Amber doesn’t have insurance, they probably just stick with normal rules and routines, with the only difference they bill her instead of insurance.

Sorry for the TLDR.
 
Us "Sociopaths" can wonder her true diagnoses...

Psychopathic researchers found that psychopaths often have these common traits:

  • Lack of empathy, guilt, conscience or remorse :agree:
  • Shallow experiences of feelings or emotions :agree:
  • Impulsivity and a weak ability to defer gratification and control behavior :agree:
  • Superficial charm and glibness :agree:
  • Irresponsibility and a failure to accept responsibility for their actions :agree:
  • A grandiose sense of their own worth :agree:
 
Bringing up her weight would be fatshaming. Like, does her doctor think she doesn't know she's fat? Shame is bad for her health!

Thankfully, Ragen Chastain has tips for how People of Size can deal with their fatphobic doctors.
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Tf kind of bullshit is this? These fat bitches deserve to die Jesus Christ lol. Someone is delusional enough to sirens man hours making this info graphic
 
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