I had a wake-up call yesterday on the amount of child abuse going on - My tale from jury duty

[Spiny Rumples]

My Dad told me that a friend casually told him that at boy scout camp, the counselor taught all the boys how to masturbate.

I do think it could be very common, though I'm not sure how often the incidents leave lasting trauma if they're just seen as normal at the time and for decades afterword.

Anyways, I don't think your data source is very reliable.
+++--- small sample
+ reason to lie to get out of duty
+ self or close person, casting a wide net
- reason to lie to hide shame

 

[AmberBaker]

Peep the "are troubled teen programs a focal point for abuse" thread for my infodump on institutional abuse and torture sometime.

Or look at a 2 hour congressional hearing on it that exposed a lot of awfulness but led to nothing being done because congress. It's endemic. It's actually very sad to realize that child abuse is still a huge problem for our country and for any other country. It's something that influences kids so hard that sometimes the consequences can be terrible, and that kid in the future will have to face and figure out a lot of problems. My sister is a social worker, and she has a lot of experience with such cases. For me, it's a sensitive topic, but I have a course where we discuss different social issues, and this month is dedicated to child abuse, the consequences, and how the situation can be changed. I'm actually working on one paper about child abuse, and I want to provide there theoretical info and maybe famous cases. I've already found this site https://studydriver.com/child-abuse/ which provided me with different informative and useful child abuse essay samples, which helped me a lot with the theoretical part. It's almost ready, and now I'm looking for real cases, and I hope I will be able to find something like this in open access to show the whole "picture" of that problem.

Thanks for this video; I'll watch it for sure. Some time ago, I came across the statistic which that says, "At least 1 in 7 children have experienced child abuse or neglect in the past year in the United States. This is likely an underestimate because many cases are unreported. In 2020, 1,750 children died of abuse and neglect in the United States." And that's the official data, we can just imagine how many cases were never reported.
I'm not a pro or activist who knows a lot about that problem, but I think that if we have such numbers, then something in our country don't work, and there is something that should be done to improve the situation.

 

[PaleTay]

I'd say it's fairly common, less so in rich families, but I'd say physical and emotional abuse is the norm in middle class and below, rape or exposure to hard drugs if I had to put a number on it I'd say 30%.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

As a former educator, I'd say parents follow a ⅓ split. ⅓ are good parents, ⅓ are passing the class without accolades, and ⅓ are straight up abusing their kids.

 

[Bloodfeast Island Man]

Honestly, it sounds about like 30%, And coincidentally, since I wrote that post, I found out that a family friend was being molested by the live-in boyfriend. Wouldn't have passed the jury question but still, there's no rehabbing these fucks. They're all sick in the head. I want to see them all hang from a tree.

The fact a lot of people are so blasé about it on here goes to my point.

 

[Rapunzel]

I think everyone's got that one weird family member/friend don't they?

 

[870EVO]

Honestly, it sounds about like 30%, And coincidentally, since I wrote that post, I found out that a family friend was being molested by the live-in boyfriend. Wouldn't have passed the jury question but still, there's no rehabbing these fucks. They're all sick in the head. I want to see them all hang from a tree.

The fact a lot of people are so blasé about it on here goes to my point.

Freud had this issue when he was investigating childhood family abuse. He was adamant that child abuse couldn't be happening at the rates he was recording. He didn't think people were that fucked.

 

[glass_houses]

The thing with predators is that they don't stop. Certainly there are cases of things like teenage boys being involved with groups that peer pressure them into terrible crimes and who later spend the rest of their life trying to straighten out, but for the most part, sexual predators make a career out of. And since the legal process of recieving justice is so horrific to victims- I've heard that for most people who go through it, it's just as bad or even worse than the actual assault- and by the end of it, even if the person who assaulted you is found guilty, chances are good that they will get some insulting pissant sentence that is absolutely not worth going through the charade of the legal system. So the victim and/or the family of the victim will often come to the conclusion that there's no point to it and just try to move on with their lives, especially if the victim is a child.

Even if there's ample evidence, witnesses etc, victims frequently get told it was their own fault. A ways back in Toowoomba, a man was declared not guilty of rape because the woman was drunk. This woman had had friends come over one night for drinks. The man wasn't her friend but he'd been invited by a mutual friend of the pair of them. They had a great night, but the woman had a few too many so her friends put her to bed on the lounge and left, carefully locking and securing the house behind them. Later that night the man returned alone, broke into the house and the woman awakened with him on top of her and raping her. The prosecutors put all the blame on her because she was drunk, and the jury were cool with it. Without a doubt that woman will never bother reporting another assault again. Without a doubt, she was not the first and certainly not the last woman he'll prey on.

If a career predator preys on a single victim a year over the course of his/her life, you're still looking at sixty odd victims. If the predator worms his/her way into a trusted position, who's going to stop them? Especially if they deliberately target the vulnerable, the drunk, the inebriated, the kids with bad families or behavioural problems, or even merely normal people who'd usually see them coming but because of turbulence in their lives, are not thinking clearly. Predators will also ruthlessly use every weapon that they can to exploit the systems that are allegedly there to protect the victims. The rich boy in a small town whose father is friends with the coppers; the 'Asian' rape gangs; the babysitter or teacher who uses the 'hot teacher and horny teenage boy' cliche; the family in financial turmoil who are grateful for rich Uncle Jack for helping them out etc.

It doesn't help that in many families and cultures of a traditional bent see sexual assault as the fault of the victim, or even a form of rite that all girls go through. When my mother was twelve, a strange man grabbed her and tried to pin her in a telephone box in broad daylight; she managed to pull free and get away, but when she reported it to her mother, her mother yelled at her for being so stupid. When I was a teenager, I had a Leb try to get me into his car, also in broad daylight and in front of a ton of people who watched but did not intervene. I resisted and he eventually gave up. When I reported it to my parents they basically patted me on the head and asked me what I wanted for dinner.

Career predators never stop and they chose their victims with great care. And one predator may abuse tens or even hundreds of people over the course of their lives. Even if there's only one individual out of a hundred in the entire population who makes a habit of rape, there's still going to be a shitton of victims.

 

[quackrock]

and emotional abuse

How would you define this? I have good parents and fortunately never experienced any emotional or psychological abuse. What range of actions would emotional abuse cover?

Later that night the man returned alone, broke into the house and the woman awakened with him on top of her and raping her. The prosecutors put all the blame on her because she was drunk, and the jury were cool with it. Without a doubt that woman will never bother reporting another assault again. Without a doubt, she was not the first and certainly not the last woman he'll prey on.

I don't want to sound like Internet tough guy, but in life-ruining cases where the justice system fails, I believe its on men in the victim's life to prevent the abuser from victimizing others. Every case is different, people lie, and sometimes the truth is bizarre or unexpected, but if the facts are established beyond doubt then those men have a duty to act IMO.

 

[PaleTay]

How would you define this? I have good parents and fortunately never experienced any emotional or psychological abuse. What range of actions would emotional abuse cover?

I don't want to sound like Internet tough guy, but in life-ruining cases where the justice system fails, I believe its on men in the victim's life to prevent the abuser from victimizing others. Every case is different, people lie, and sometimes the truth is bizarre or unexpected, but if the facts are established beyond doubt then those men have a duty to act IMO.

The type of treatment which contributes to BPD or self-harm. Parents screaming at children, threatening self-harm like suicide, restricting them from seeing friends, acting like they're owed something for raising their children, gaslighting and lying to children in order to manipulate them.

 

[Little oak tree]

How has the older generations (and the newer ones obviously with all the teet yeeting and cock chops) failed this bad?