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Couple thousand dollars minimum and a couple hundred bux at least a month after that is pretty expensive, actually.

As someone who has been to/lived near the rural parts of the Bible belt, lmao. You might not have noticed the meth labs, but they're definitely there. Along with all the child abuse/neglect, animal neglect (why so many dogs just chained in yards or let loose?), cults, poverty, and other problems common in rural burgerland.
Bro where do you fucking live where a car is a couple grand? you buying that shit brand new or what?
>"You might not have noticed the meth labs, but they're definitely there. Along with all the child abuse/neglect, animal neglect (why so many dogs just chained in yards or let loose?), cults, poverty"
I would rather live here in rural america and be somewhat poor than live "high class" in your faggot cities. You can point to "muh GDP/poverty" and "muh cults" all you want, it's because we live more simple lives than you. because everything you pointed out (meth labs, child abuse, etc), Happens 10x as much in those cities, just in rural areas our cops are a bit more willing to do their jobs (almost like they have to answer to the people voting them in instead of the mayor)
 
Bro where do you fucking live where a car is a couple grand? you buying that shit brand new or what?
>"You might not have noticed the meth labs, but they're definitely there. Along with all the child abuse/neglect, animal neglect (why so many dogs just chained in yards or let loose?), cults, poverty"
I would rather live here in rural america and be somewhat poor than live "high class" in your faggot cities. You can point to "muh GDP/poverty" and "muh cults" all you want, it's because we live more simple lives than you. because everything you pointed out (meth labs, child abuse, etc), Happens 10x as much in those cities, just in rural areas our cops are a bit more willing to do their jobs (almost like they have to answer to the people voting them in instead of the mayor)
Even used cars are usually at least a couple thousand bux. Where are you getting cars that are cheaper?

I think despite being "slightly poor", you're still better off than I am. Sucks I'll never be able to experience living in the oh-so-superior rural areas(again) because I have no way to get there (even in suburban areas public transit is largely nonexistant).

Rural cops are willing to throw the book at people for relatively minor drug crime and shit. Otherwise, they shit themselves and do nothing. Especially with shit like child abuse (the treatment local Arkansas cops gave Josh Duggar is a good example).
 
Even used cars are usually at least a couple thousand bux. Where are you getting cars that are cheaper?

I think despite being "slightly poor", you're still better off than I am. Sucks I'll never be able to experience living in the oh-so-superior rural areas(again) because I have no way to get there (even in suburban areas public transit is largely nonexistant).

Rural cops are willing to throw the book at people for relatively minor drug crime and shit. Otherwise, they shit themselves and do nothing. Especially with shit like child abuse (the treatment local Arkansas cops gave Josh Duggar is a good example).
I mean people tend to forget, yes people in cities make more on average than a rural person, but they have to pay way more in taxes and the like, so a rural person can have as much, hell in some cases even more "purchasing power" than a cityfag even with a lower income.
 
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I mean people tend to forget, yes people in cities make more on average than a rural person, but they have to pay way more in taxes and the like, so a rural person can have as much, hell in some cases even more "purchasing power" than a cityfag even with a lower income.
That's nice, how am I supposed to get there without transit?
 
Couple thousand dollars minimum and a couple hundred bux at least a month after that is pretty expensive, actually.

As someone who has been to/lived near the rural parts of the Bible belt, lmao. You might not have noticed the meth labs, but they're definitely there. Along with all the child abuse/neglect, animal neglect (why so many dogs just chained in yards or let loose?), cults, poverty, lack of resources/employment opportunities, and other problems common in rural burgerland.
Not one of the bolded problems is exclusive to ruralities.
Bro where do you fucking live where a car is a couple grand? you buying that shit brand new or what?
Average price paid for a new car in the US in 2022 is $48,000. Median (yes different measure but I'm not willing to look further; it's all close enough) list price of a used car in the US in 2022 is $33k and change. Of course you can find them for much much much cheaper, but "a couple thousand bucks" is on the very low end.
>"You might not have noticed the meth labs, but they're definitely there. Along with all the child abuse/neglect, animal neglect (why so many dogs just chained in yards or let loose?), cults, poverty"
I would rather live here in rural america and be somewhat poor than live "high class" in your faggot cities. You can point to "muh GDP/poverty" and "muh cults" all you want, it's because we live more simple lives than you. because everything you pointed out (meth labs, child abuse, etc), Happens 10x as much in those cities, just in rural areas our cops are a bit more willing to do their jobs (almost like they have to answer to the people voting them in instead of the mayor)
Lol, bad cops exist everywhere. As do good ones.
Even used cars are usually at least a couple thousand bux. Where are you getting cars that are cheaper?

I think despite being "slightly poor", you're still better off than I am. Sucks I'll never be able to experience living in the oh-so-superior rural areas(again) because I have no way to get there (even in suburban areas public transit is largely nonexistant).
Literally getting there? You're not being metaphorical? Pick a little town with a main street and you only have to get there once. Also, if you're in a place where the income and outflow have a little more distance between them, you're in less of a treading water situation long-term so over time your situation can actually potentially improve.
Rural cops are willing to throw the book at people for relatively minor drug crime and shit. Otherwise, they shit themselves and do nothing. Especially with shit like child abuse (the treatment local Arkansas cops gave Josh Duggar is a good example).
Ever heard of the Dirty 30? Corrupt cops are a risk everywhere.
 
Not one of the bolded problems is exclusive to ruralities.

Average price paid for a new car in the US in 2022 is $48,000. Median (yes different measure but I'm not willing to look further; it's all close enough) list price of a used car in the US in 2022 is $33k and change. Of course you can find them for much much much cheaper, but "a couple thousand bucks" is on the very low end.

Lol, bad cops exist everywhere. As do good ones.

Literally getting there? You're not being metaphorical? Pick a little town with a main street and you only have to get there once. Also, if you're in a place where the income and outflow have a little more distance between them, you're in less of a treading water situation long-term so over time your situation can actually potentially improve.

Ever heard of the Dirty 30? Corrupt cops are a risk everywhere.
Imagine trying to reason with a whacked out bpd chick
 
That's nice, how am I supposed to get there without transit?
That's a feature, not a bug.

One of the advantages of rural living is the lack of public transit, meaning that we don't have to deal with retarded urbanite shits who think they have the right to pollute my area with their presence just because they can afford a bus ticket. No public transit means no crime and degeneracy migrating from the cities.

If you can afford a car and enough gas for a 3 hour drive, can make it past the wolves and the swamp witch, then you've earned the right to visit where I live.
 
That's a feature, not a bug.

One of the advantages of rural living is the lack of public transit, meaning that we don't have to deal with retarded urbanite shits who think they have the right to pollute my area with their presence just because they can afford a bus ticket. No public transit means no crime and degeneracy migrating from the cities.

If you can afford a car and enough gas for a 3 hour drive, can make it past the wolves and the swamp witch, then you've earned the right to visit where I live.
Must be why some rural areas have 3rd world level poverty, kinda hard to work if you have no transportation and can't afford a car. Probably not unrelated to the phenomenon of rural America having multiple generations living off disability and other benefits.

Guess the Slatons and Sammieverse are more desirable than people like me.

I think there are probably fewer meth labs in the city.
 
Must be why some rural areas have 3rd world level poverty, kinda hard to work if you have no transportation and can't afford a car. Probably not unrelated to the phenomenon of rural America having multiple generations living off disability and other benefits.

Guess the Slatons and Sammieverse are more desirable than people like me.

I think there are probably fewer meth labs in the city.
If rural areas have 3rd world level poverty, crushing unemployment, and are infested by meth labs, why are you kvetching so much about not having access to those areas? Stay in your bug hive if it's so bad outside.
 
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If rural areas have 3rd world level poverty, crushing unemployment, and are infested by meth labs, why are you kvetching so much about not having access to those areas? Stay in your bug hive if it's so bad outside.
If rural areas are so much superior to evil degenerate cities, why do they have all the same problems with drugs/crime/etc in addition to zero public transit and much fewer resources for poor people (which there are no shortage of in rural America)?

My issue is less being able to getting to rural areas personally so much as lack of public transit even in suburban areas sucks ass and makes it all the more difficult for people to even begin to get out of poverty. Plus with poor people being increasingly priced out of cities, you get catch 22 situations where someone can't afford rent in the city, but can't get to areas they can afford rent because no public transit there.

Plus the second a major highway is taken out of commission for an extended period (like i85 into Atlanta when it caught on fire in 2017), even car owners get their commutes fucked.
 
If rural areas are so much superior to evil degenerate cities, why do they have all the same problems with drugs/crime/etc in addition to zero public transit and much fewer resources for poor people (which there are no shortage of in rural America)?

My issue is less being able to getting to rural areas personally so much as lack of public transit even in suburban areas sucks ass and makes it all the more difficult for people to even begin to get out of poverty. Plus with poor people being increasingly priced out of cities, you get catch 22 situations where someone can't afford rent in the city, but can't get to areas they can afford rent because no public transit there.

Plus the second a major highway is taken out of commission for an extended period (like i85 into Atlanta when it caught on fire in 2017), even car owners get their commutes fucked.
Why not use Uber?
 
Plus with poor people being increasingly priced out of cities, you get catch 22 situations where someone can't afford rent in the city, but can't get to areas they can afford rent because no public transit there.
But this is a bigger catch 22. Those people fleeing to an area with cheaper rent will gentrify that area and make it unaffordable for the people living there now, just compounding the problem and destroying any sense of community as the ripples spread outwards from the city. The problem originates in, and can only be solved in, the cities and suburbs themselves. And there are lots of little ways to tackle the problem. Single family homes being turned into nonresidential airbnbs is an absolute scourge on the suburbs. Tax policy should make doing so uneconomical.

And then there's foreign ownership of American real estate. We will just let anyone waltz in and buy up an apartment block as an investment - and let them use loopholes to pay similar taxes to residents. The rent money is bled out of the national economy, and the landlord has zero connection to the neighborhood. I can guarantee you that a bunch of white people from America or Europe would never in your wildest dreams be permitted by the government of China, India, or Saudi Arabia to buy out huge amounts of real estate in those countries and then rent to their citizens - why on earth do we let other countries do this to us?

Finally, look at citizens in the US using residential property as an investment - look at firms like Blackrock. It should be completely illegal for investment firms to snap up residential properties, and should be uneconomical for private citizens past a point. You have a beach house that you rent out? Fine, no extra taxes. Want to get a mountain cabin too? Okay, we'll let you pay normal. But anything beyond that, each non-residential property should have an escalating tax burden placed on it, so that if you get beyond say five properties it's pretty much impossible to break even by charging rent, and you'd make more money by selling the place. Then either a family can buy it, or another person looking for their first or second rental property would snap it up as an investment. This either makes housing available, or at least increases competition among landlords.

This really reminds me of the whole refugee debate in Europe. Everyone was talking about how to accommodate these people, but nobody brought up the only thing that would have fixed the problem: not using the CIA to fund terrorists and destabilize their country into a war zone. Taking people and just moving them to where other, often very different, people already live just causes more problems down the line, it does nothing to fix the root cause of the issue.
 
But this is a bigger catch 22. Those people fleeing to an area with cheaper rent will gentrify that area and make it unaffordable for the people living there now, just compounding the problem and destroying any sense of community as the ripples spread outwards from the city. The problem originates in, and can only be solved in, the cities and suburbs themselves. And there are lots of little ways to tackle the problem. Single family homes being turned into nonresidential airbnbs is an absolute scourge on the suburbs. Tax policy should make doing so uneconomical.
Nigger how the fuck are poor people, especially poor minorities, gonna gentrify anything? Gentrification is why they can't afford cities (and a lot of suburbs now) in the first place. These are people who have nowhere to go and no way to get there.

I thought the delusion that public transit=scary poor people and minorities moving to their town was the main justification conservative retards used against expanding public transit (even though plenty of poor people are in their town already&increasing amounts of boomers are loosing their ability to drive).
Why not use Uber?
Can't afford it. Uber isn't cheap.
 
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Nigger how the fuck are poor people, especially poor minorities, gonna gentrify anything? Gentrification is why they can't afford cities (and a lot of suburbs now) in the first place. These are people who have nowhere to go and no way to get there.

I thought the delusion that public transit=scary poor people and minorities moving to their town was the main justification conservative retards used against expanding public transit (even though plenty of poor people are in their town already&increasing amounts of boomers are loosing their ability to drive).

Can't afford it. Uber isn't cheap.
Maybe worry about doing anything to contribute to society besides extremely bad posting on the internet before you worry about how other people need to support you with their tax money.
 
Maybe worry about doing anything to contribute to society besides extremely bad posting on the internet before you worry about how other people need to support you with their tax money.
Bring this attitude the next time somewhere decides to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on a new sportsball stadium or similar luxury.
 
Bring this attitude the next time somewhere decides to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on a new sportsball stadium or similar luxury.
Do you even have a job or do you just sit around all complaining about how your life sucks all the time? Is your only hobby looking at women and "tard babies" so you can feel better about your own shitty life that is entirely of your own making?
 
Nigger how the fuck are poor people, especially poor minorities, gonna gentrify anything? Gentrification is why they can't afford cities (and a lot of suburbs now) in the first place. These are people who have nowhere to go and no way to get there.

I thought the delusion that public transit=scary poor people and minorities moving to their town was the main justification conservative retards used against expanding public transit (even though plenty of poor people are in their town already&increasing amounts of boomers are loosing their ability to drive).
The people who will be able to afford moving out will be selling their house in the gentrified area. Gentrification drives up property values and taxes to the point where it becomes unaffordable to long term residents. When those people are pushed out, they sell their house and make a short-term windfall due to the inflated value. They then have a shit ton of liquid cash to plop down in a rural area with cheaper real estate. When my sister was trying to buy a house in our area, she was constantly having to start over because someone from the city/suburbs who sold their house would show up and offer to pay cash. Anyone in a Western state is facing the same thing with Californians right now - the real estate market in Cali is so inflated that the people leaving the state are now inflating and tightening the real estate markets of all the surrounding states by infusing it with a huge amount of liquid cash. That just creates the whole gentrification bubble all over again.

The people who can't afford to move are not people you want moving, because if they're poor in the city nine times out of ten they're sucking off the system. The mentality is completely different in my area. I know people who were poor enough that they burned wood to stay warm, lived through the depression, had larders full of cans that they bought whenever they went on sale and lived off of for months, did wash by hand with a ringer. None of them would ever take a penny, and would be offended if you suggested that they do, because the mentality is that the money is there for people who really need it - people who are blind, disabled, veterans, orphans, had their house burn down. If you tell them to take assistance, you're basically telling them that they're indigent and that they'll take money that's meant for those worse off - it's a potent insult.

There are 'white trash' families that suck off the system but they have a reputation, and they're all shunned as a form of collective guilt - a lot of these families could work but don't want to, they get involved with hard drug trafficking - another huge black mark. People won't call the cops on you for dumb shit that's technically illegal, people mind there own business in that way, but people watch what you do, and you are judged by reputation, and that judgment falls on your whole family. Because of this, any city family that's used to living off of welfare and food stamps will face an extremely cold welcome in a lot of rural areas. My own grandma was a better-off but hardworking woman from the suburbs, but it took years for her to overcome the suspicion of outsiders that rural people have. A family that has the mentality that lots of people in the city have - grab what you can, the system owes it to me - they would never, ever be able to assimilate.
 
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The people who will be able to afford moving out will be selling their house in the gentrified area. Gentrification drives up property values and taxes to the point where it becomes unaffordable to long term residents. When those people are pushed out, they sell their house and make a short-term windfall due to the inflated value.
The people I'm talking about typically can't afford to buy a house in the first place.

You really think someone that can't afford a car can afford something as expensive as a house?
 
Part of me hates whenever these youtube channels use Cities Skylines as a "source" for their argument, it's if I used Hearts of Iron 4 as a "source" on geopolitics and military tactics, just seems autistic as fuck
Besides Simcity 4 is the better city building game anyway
Not to derail this anymore, but Simcity 4 is overall the better package out of the gate (calling forward the lost dream of late-90s-early 2000s-era San Francisco), Cities Skylines's actual game progression and its graphic artstyle are atrocious.

But I guess with enough mods, City Skylines turns into a city painter/digital maquette maker/railroad simulator for the 21st century digital autist.
 
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