I need articles/arguments against forcing kids to be trannies - Please be serious

[AN/ALR56]

Yep. People in my college think its a great idea to listen to a 7 year old and pump him full of hormones.

I need more evidence/arguments against this, asides from the money fiasco.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Tranhuviya]

Just tell them that pumping a prepubescent child full of foreign chemicals is bound to wreak havoc on their growth. Like, how does it sound like a good idea once you put it in that context? It's muy loco, mang.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Just tell them that pumping a prepubescent child full of foreign chemicals is bound to wreak havoc on their growth. Like, how does it sound like a good idea once you put it in that context? It's muy loco, mang.

I need articles to provide sources though.
They claim it doesnt affect growth at all.

 

[UnderwaterUnderworld]

4thwavenow is a great place to get articles like what you want.
Transgender identity in adolescents: https://4thwavenow.com/2016/07/18/the-adolescent-trans-trend-10-influences/
Most important takeaway from that one would be the finding that most kids who "socially transition" end up receiving HRT at a young age.
Comparison to eugenics movement: https://4thwavenow.com/2017/08/28/the-eugenics-craze-all-the-best-people/
This one is a little more out there, but t makes a good point: the modern trans trend leans toward sterilizing gay and autistic people (or possible future gay people, in the case of children).

I would also recommend showing the effects of puberty suppressing drugs like Lupron. Won't be able to pass so well if your teeth fall out at 21.

And as a last note, ask people who support transition at all costs: "What good will putting a 7 year old on hormones bring? Does that good outweigh the risks such as sterility, loss of bone density, cancer, and possible regret?"

 

[ICametoLurk]

Explain to them how it's a vast scheme created by greedy Corporations to make money off of mentally ill people.

For example, in the USA Hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery are covered by Medicare
http://archive.is/KiDm1

Affordable Care Act mandates of health professionals, insurance companies:
>doctors must perform gender transition procedures on children, even when those procedures may be physically and emotionally harmful to the child
>forces virtually all private insurance companies and many employers to cover gender transition procedures or face severe penalties and legal action
>affects “nearly all doctors in the U.S.”
https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-individuals/section-1557/1557faqs/index.html
http://archive.is/eKxo3
http://archive.is/OOtVl

Even without gonads, HRT is a life-long subscription
>Life-long repeat customers
>1.4 million trannies in the US (and rapidly growing)
http://archive.is/4OoLU
https://archive.is/pdhu3

You Won't Believe How Much It Costs to Be Transgender in America
>Hormone Therapy: $1,500/Year
>Gender Reassignment Surgery: $30,000-Plus
>Breast Augmentation: $5,000-$10,000
>Facial Feminization Surgery: $25,000-$60,000
http://archive.is/3lvaL

>In 2015 three of the top ten corporate funders of lgbt issues were biopharmaceutical companies: Gilead Sciences, ViiV Healthcare, and Bristol-Myers Squibb Company
https://www.lgbtfunders.org/reporttypes/tracking-report/


Susan's Transgender Forum
>As for the basic cost of HRT, my Estrace (estradiol) pills cost 0.54 $ each, for a total of 32.40 $ per month. My cyproterone (anti-androgen) costs 1.64 $ per pill, for a total of 98.23 $ per month, all that before insurance. So if I didn't have insurance, my HRT would cost me a total of 130.63 $ per month.
http://archive.is/5xxwG

Ask A Poor RedditTranny
>$30/Month ($360/year)
http://archive.is/rzUyS

>HRT a lifelong subscription
>1.4 million transexuals estimated in the US
That's a conservative $360 per year x a conservative estimate of 1 million transexuals = potential profit of $360,000,000 per year with just Adult trannies, imagine how much money they would make if kids started becoming trannies.

 

[Paralethal]

Is this what these children need? The burden to show evidence of such a need should be on the people making the claim. Otherwise it's basically human experimentation on child subjects.

 

[Robot Gentleman]

Here's a relatively nonbiased article explaining potential dangers of allowing children to transition, from the New Statesman:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...doctors-are-right-be-cautious-about-childhood

And a few more from the UK-based Spectator. They're definitely a lot more biased, but I think you'll like them better.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/...children-could-there-be-anything-more-cruel/#

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01...ng-to-tell-all-children-theyre-gender-fluid/#

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Seems to me like the only arguement/evidence you'd need is to point to the fact that nearly 40% of troons an hero themselves.

Encouraging a child to become something that has a nearly head-or-tails chance of killing itself seems a weensy bit unethical, no?

 

[Florence]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-transgender-battle-line-childhood-1451952794?mod=djemMER

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

I know this is Deep Thoughts, but unless you're being paid to do this I honestly and genuinely suggest you consider ignoring these people and getting on with your life. There are conversations that are not worth having.

 

[Un Platano]

If they're so lacking in critical thinking as to think that fucking up a kid's hormones before or during puberty is harmless, they're never going to listen to any properly sourced articles. Those are transphobic. It's a circle of idiocy that they've gotten themselves into thinking, and it's terminal. Unless you're trying to make a controversial presentation for the lulz, it's not worth your time.

 

[A Random]

@AN/ALR56, does this have anything to do with the last issue of Veja that came out?

 

[Doug_Hitzel]

If trannies take all kinds of hormones and whatnot, then they cannot use their respective girldicks in trannyporn or as sexworkers. And that means they’ll be unemployed and a burden on society.

 

[AN/ALR56]

@AN/ALR56, does this have anything to do with the last issue of Veja that came out?

Not really, i want to keep a argument depot to use it whenever i need it.

 

[A Random]

OK.

By the way guys, a local 'serious news' magazine [and not a tabloid] did an issue on tranny kids. Didn't seem to go for the "trooning out is bad for 6-year-olds" but I didn't get to finish reading it myself.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Ask them if they'd let their seven year old get a permanent tattoo or drink alcohol and make them explain why. There's your answer.

 

[Positron]

A story brought to my attention by Zinnia Jones, the Rat King of Giant Horse Dildos. A mother shares her experience when her 11-year-old daughter thought she was trans in the wake of the Leelah Alcorn incident. The supportive mother read all about trannyism, brought her to "gender specialists" who started her on cross-sex hormones, and accompanied her to trans health conferences -- and it was in those conferences that the girl had an epiphany that she was not, indeed, trans. She now comes to regard "medical transition as physician-assisted self-harm".

 

[MW 002]

Well first thing's first, let's get one thing out of the way: children say the darnedest things all the time. Some of the shit kids say, especially at a young age, while baffling at times should rarely be taken as seriously as an adult. This is because their cognitive abilities are only just starting develop; which is why they're really impressionable. I've met kids who were totally convinced that they're actually cats, but then outgrow said phase a few weeks later.

Ask these people why you have to be 21 years old in order to legally be allowed to drink in most states. Why do you have to wait until you are 16 to be able to get your driver's licence? Why is it that the age of consent in most places is 16? Why can't kids legally purchase firearms until they're 18?

These are important questions with obvious answers: because we cannot legally trust children to be responsible.

This is why in most places juvenile offenders get lighter sentences than adults do.

So why should we be able to trust that they really have gender dysphoria at a young age? I personally believe that gender dysphoria should be treated in the same manner that most mental illnesses are in that it cannot be diagnosed until the patient is in their 20s and has actually met the criteria for it.

 

[Chinaman]

Um...yikes. Don't you want a growing child to feel good about their appearance and growup to be a beautiful princess? Transphobe terfs are so gross.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I'm willing to bet your opponents are the kind of people who hate Big Pharma and think privatized health care is all a crock to make money so ask them why they aren't suspicious when a massively expensive transition industry of medicine, therapy, and consultation that specifically targets patients too young to think critically springs up overnight.