I never get why Redditors talk about cosmic meaning as if it actually makes much sense to care about.

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Almost all of the cosmos, being nothing more than an enormous quantity of utterly dead matter, seems to me to be completely irrelevant to the meaning of my life. I don't ask the rocks in my garden about how meaningful my life is.

Even so, why does the fact that the universe is so big mean anything? If Earth and its inhabitants miraculously became a million times larger while the rest of the cosmos remained as it was, or if everything else in the cosmos became a million times smaller while Earth and its inhabitants remained the same size, I would not feel that my life had therefore become a million times more meaningful, or in fact any more meaningful at all.

Or when they talk about how life must not have any meaning because we're all gonna die. Saying that death diminishes worth and, thus, that infinite life would have had more worth does not mean that a finite life has no worth at all. A finite life may have a value that is not absolute, yet nevertheless substantial and sufficient because things can be temporal and valuable.

Or that because we all end up dead our lives are the same. Of course, if we examine only the aspects in which these two people are similar, completely disregarding those aspects in which they differ, the two appear the same. But it is unclear why we should disregard all those aspects in which they differ and focus exclusively on the aspects they share. Sure a beach bum and Ceaser may now be dead but it would be odd to consider their lives as similar in meaning.

I feel as if most Redditors desperately want life to have no meaning because it gives them an excuse to do nothing. It's a coping mechanism for failure.
 
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But life has no meaning, other than getting offspring. You are free to do what you want, but you have to motivate yourself. Redditors problem is they're "depressed".
 
They tend to be young adults who still are seeking meaning in their life.

When you think on a massive cosmic scale it 'puts shit into perspective' but in reality doesn't do much. Most people hit a point where career, family, or social relationships matter and they find some meaning . It's why teenagers have their 'emo' phase -- they have yet to find a direction.

So, yes in the big picture no one gives a fuck if you live, or die, or end up in a history book. But from your perspective (the only one that really matters), you hopefully will or have already found some direction to give yourself purpose.

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Redditors, for the most part, lean towards DMT-use culture, which holds "universal meaning" as all but axiomatic. I'd reckon OP doesn't use much as far as drugs go. Phrases like "cosmic meaning" usually correlate with drug abuse.

"It's not hard to find meaning, just drop some LSD and you'll find something."
 
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Nihilism is self defeating because announcing that there is no meaning in something must imply that there is meaning somewhere else. In other words, for something to not matter, there needs to be something that does. The idea of nihilism is appealing to the contemporary juvenile because they don't even take in its entirety as a philosophy - instead, it is a way for them to justify not holding themselves to any standard. The "something that matters" is their ego. The "nothing that matters" is kind of everything else as a means to protect the said ego. But they fail at that step also, as they are not only ruled completely by the approval and validation of others, but also worship the material.

Personally, I like slightly Buddhist approach to this. It is most useful to see the material as a "something" and the ego as the illusion, the "nothing". Even if the material isn't the highest in the order of "meaningfulness", the laws of the universe still rule above the ego. Therefore, it doesn't at all close the doors to the existence of a higher being or force.
 
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KittyGremlin said:
Nihilism is self defeating because announcing that there is no meaning in something must imply that there is meaning somewhere else. In other words, for something to not matter, there needs to be something that does. The idea of nihilism is appealing to the contemporary juvenile because they don't even take in its entirety as a philosophy - instead, it is a way for them to justify not holding themselves to any standard. The "something that matters" is their ego. The "nothing that matters" is kind of everything else as a means to protect the said ego. But they fail at that step also, as they are not only ruled completely by the approval and validation of others, but also worship the material.

Personally, I like slightly Buddhist approach to this. It is most useful to see the material as a "something" and the ego as the illusion, the "nothing". Even if the material isn't the highest in the order of "meaningfulness", the laws of the universe still rule above the ego. Therefore, it doesn't at all close the doors to the existence of a higher being or force.
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I think they're running under only half of the equation. Nothing matters, which means you can ascribe meaning to what you choose to value. That's pretty freeing. Too bad it doesn't fix the emptiness, but maybe getting some Vitamin D will.
 
ArnoldPalmer said:
I think they're running under only half of the equation. Nothing matters, which means you can ascribe meaning to what you choose to value. That's pretty freeing. Too bad it doesn't fix the emptiness, but maybe getting some Vitamin D will.
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Yes, because you're giving into the illusion of the ego.
 
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the life has no meaning thing is dumb gay bullshit, life has meaning, it's everything else that doesn't.
life is just self-preservation and reproduction, life blindly seeks to proliferate itself wherever it can and if it doesn't it dies which temporarily gives way for more life.
 
dak said:
Redditors, for the most part, lean towards DMT-use culture, which holds "universal meaning" as all but axiomatic. I'd reckon OP doesn't use much as far as drugs go. Phrases like "cosmic meaning" usually correlate with drug abuse.

"It's not hard to find meaning, just drop some LSD and you'll find something."
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I think think its more from Carl Sagan type pop-science and surface level nihilism.
 
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Clockwork_PurBle said:
They're trying to seek meaning in their lives and they would rather die than try to find it in traditional religion (specifically Christianity).
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This is the crux of it all. If God exists then there's certain rules they have to follow and they're incapable of self-discipline.
Pokemonquistador2 said:
All of this could be solved by a good world war knocking some sense into these overfed degenerates.
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Only fools and psychopaths are eager for war.
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