"I will get rid of my chest and my reproductive organs ... - but I will never try to excise the flowering femininity in my heart. "

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/transgender-misogyny

So apparently the new feminism is women mutilating their bodies while still wearing lipstick and booty shorts.

I vow to never be that man, now and later in my life. Instead, I will stay true to my masculinity, a masculinity that is fluid and loving and open. I will get rid of my chest and my reproductive organs, but I will never try to excise the flowering femininity in my heart. I have a long way to go with building up confidence about my gender presentation and body, but I do and always will check myself when I envy or resent a femme. The femmes in my life have become role models for me instead of competition, setting an example of resilient femininity and fearless gender nonconformity.

I know now that the soft, playful, sparkling side of me and others did not create this pain I feel. It came from the people who made me feel unsafe, the people who first wanted to be a girl and then wanted me to choose between “man” and “woman.” Well, to those people I say: you can kiss my booty short-wearing ass.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Fuck's sake, just be a tomboy. Too many teenage girls are going the troon route because they think it's the only alternative to being a bitchy cheerleader jailbait type, and plenty of online troons aren't helping with this sort of shit. Females come in all shapes and sizes and can wear whatever they want. You don't need surgeries to do any of that.

 

[Positron]

I can't see what's the harm. After all, all trannies told us transition is 100% satisfaction guaranteed and no one ever regrets.

 

[break these cuffs]

This is the shit they're putting in Teen Vogue?! What the fuck? I thought that magazine was gushing over boy bands and Cosmo for tweens with articles like "10 Things the Boy You Like Will Eat at Lunch to Let You Know He's Into You". The depths of degeneracy have no end.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

So many of these kids seem to think your organs are just plug-n-play. Take a uterus out, no problem, put one in and transplant it so you can have a baby, no problem.

In reality, anyone who gets a hysterectomy at an early age is extremely, extremely likely to have prolapses, especially after the muscles of the vaginal canal lose strength and resilience due to testosterone. Early hysterectomy is linked to a tremendous range of negative health outcomes, especially when the ovaries are taken as well, and especially when it happens well before menopause.

Why? Because the uterus isn't just a baby carrier. It's integrated into the female body as a sort of "suspension" that keeps all of the organs in its vicinity from falling down into the vaginal vault.

A lot of the women who have these surgeries and feel very distanced from their female body have a massive fear of childbirth because of what it can do to their body -- make them incontinent and in pain, for instance. But hysterectomy is linked to a massive uptick in pelvic floor dysfunction, including stress incontinence (that's the thing that means moms of kids are way more likely to piss a little when they sneeze/cough than nulliparous women). After 6 years, 2/3 of women who've had a hysterectomy will be incontinent.

Bowel dysfunction, including constipation and anal incontinence, also skyrockets after hysterectomy, with large numbers of women (especially younger women) reporting that they cannot completely evacuate their bowels and half needing to use their fingers to extract feces in order to complete evacuation.

Fistulas, a horrifying gyn complication that involves a hole between the rectal walls and the vaginal vault, are four times more common in women who've gotten a hysterectomy.

So that's the life she has to look forward to. Hope your future dates don't mind if you wear Depends and occasionally have to use the fingers technique to dislodge your poop, "gender-creative" women!

 

[Apex Predator]

Girls who were freaked out about puberty used to get eating disorders. I'm not sure which is worse. Considering anorexia's high death rate, maybe someone's more likely to survive this for longer despite all the health complications? Then again, the actual gender dysphoria girls will give themselves with this kind of thing is likely to be hell psychologically.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

This is the shit they're putting in Teen Vogue?! What the fuck? I thought that magazine was gushing over boy bands and Cosmo for tweens with articles like "10 Things the Boy You Like Will Eat at Lunch to Let You Know He's Into You". The depths of degeneracy have no end.

I think they started to become “woke” during the election and after trump was elected. I remember a whole bunch of #resist people were retweeting an article of theirs saying Trump was gaslighting people.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Girls who were freaked out about puberty used to get eating disorders. I'm not sure which is worse. Considering anorexia's high death rate, maybe someone's more likely to survive this for longer despite all the health complications? Then again, the actual gender dysphoria girls will give themselves with this kind of thing is likely to be hell psychologically.

https://transresearch.info/2015/10/...emale-to-male-gender-dysphoria-a-case-report/

http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(15)00087-7/abstract

Unfortunately, trans people have very high rates of eating disorders, and there are numerous cases recorded in the literature of FTMs who have comorbid EDs. Coupled with the fact that over half of FTMs have a history of being child sexual abuse victims and that FTMs are the most likely trans people to commit suicide, and I doubt this is a particularly fruitful path for anyone's mental health. Certainly, the FTMs I've known who've fit this pattern (history of EDs and self-harm, history of CSA victimization) seem to be less and less happy every year of their transition journey, and are wondering why nothing's been a quick fix.

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

https://transresearch.info/2015/10/...emale-to-male-gender-dysphoria-a-case-report/

http://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(15)00087-7/abstract

Unfortunately, trans people have very high rates of eating disorders, and there are numerous cases recorded in the literature of FTMs who have comorbid EDs. Coupled with the fact that over half of FTMs have a history of being child sexual abuse victims and that FTMs are the most likely trans people to commit suicide, and I doubt this is a particularly fruitful path for anyone's mental health. Certainly, the FTMs I've known who've fit this pattern (history of EDs and self-harm, history of CSA victimization) seem to be less and less happy every year of their transition journey, and are wondering why nothing's been a quick fix.

Christ that is depressing.

How the hell do doctors go along with this shit (SRS) on people so unstable.

Because the few FTM's I know have only gotten worse (mentally) after surgery.

 

[Fareal]

Being a girl has nothing to do with how successfully or enthusiasically you perform femininity.

Please, please, girls and young women, never forget this, or have this knocked out of your understanding and your sense of self. You are a whole fucking person just the way you are, and the person you are doesn't determine what gender or sexuality you 'should' be.

You can wear boots and dungarees and twenty tattoos and shave your head, and be as happy as a clam as a straight cis woman who just likes to dress that way. You can play video games and MTG and do STEM degrees and none of that makes you any less of a girl than anyone. You can be a glitter strewn karaoke pageant princess and be as gay as a spring parade. You don't need any motherfucker's permission to be yourself, just the way you are. There aren't some set of arcane rules you need to fit into. Don't break the criminal law, try not to intentionally be a dick to people, be kind when you can. That's it. Your performance of femininity isn't on that list.

You don't become less female because of anything you read, write, say, watch, or do. Anyone who tells you anything different is policing your behaviour to impose cultural norms of femininity, and that is bullshit. That is the prima facie bullshit that feminism rejects. This bullshit used to tell us we couldn't go to school, or university, or have careers because that was 'unfeminine' and 'masculinising'. This 'you're trans or enby if you don't like wearing a dress' is the same fucking bullshit packaged in fancy words and muh social justice. Your taste in fucking clothing doesn't make your body fucking wrong or gross, my god. It's fucking clothes. It's a costume. Nothing about clothes or makeup make you wrong or broken. If you don't like how the clothes make you look, get other clothes. It honest to god is that simple.

Girls and women can do and think whatever the fuck they like, and their identity as women is not in any way invalidated by that. That right fucking there is the freedom that nascent feminism fought for. Please for the love of god, don't surrender it to be trendy and think yourself back into a box of imposed femininity in the name of gender theory, or being a good ally.

Don't confuse being an adolescent and being confused about where you fit in, and being lonely amd sometimes hurt, with gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is rare as fuck. Feeling awkward and sad and trying to figure out who you are is fucking universal. Morrissey is a fucking millionaire because of this. This is happening to the boys too. They just aren't talking about it on tumblr, or to anyone, because that's what boys do to handle this, and that's in part why they grow up to disproportionately commit suicide and experience mental health problems. We aren't doing them aaaaany fucking favours by telling them there's only one way to be a girl and one way to be a man, by the way, we really aren't. It happens to everyone. It's ok to be weird. It's okay to be weird forever, if you want. It's ok to take fucking years to figure out who you are, what you like, what you want to do with your life, who you love. It's okay for all those things not to line up into a perfect neat teen tv show package. It's okay to love Sephora runs and hockey games. It's okay to cut your hair and drive a truck and stan Taylor Swift.

It's okay to be whoever you are. It's okay to be you. You are okay. You matter. You are going to be fine. Just be a little kind to yourself.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Being a girl has nothing to do with how successfully or enthusiasically you perform femininity.

Please, please, girls and young women, never forget this, or have this knocked out of your understanding and your sense of self. You are a whole fucking person just the way you are, and the person you are doesn't determine what gender or sexuality you 'should' be.

You can wear boots and dungarees and twenty tattoos and shave your head, and be as happy as a clam as a straight cis woman who just likes to dress that way. You can play video games and MTG and do STEM degrees and none of that makes you any less of a girl than anyone. You can be a glitter strewn karaoke pageant princess and be as gay as a spring parade. You don't need any motherfucker's permission to be yourself, just the way you are. There aren't some set of arcane rules you need to fit into. Don't break the criminal law, try not to intentionally be a dick to people, be kind when you can. That's it. Your performance of femininity isn't on that list.

You don't become less female because of anything you read, write, say, watch, or do. Anyone who tells you anything different is policing your behaviour to impose cultural norms of femininity, and that is bullshit. That is the prima facie bullshit that feminism rejects. This bullshit used to tell us we couldn't go to school, or university, or have careers because that was 'unfeminine' and 'masculinising'. This 'you're trans or enby if you don't like wearing a dress' is the same fucking bullshit packaged in fancy words and muh social justice. Your taste in fucking clothing doesn't make your body fucking wrong or gross, my god. It's fucking clothes. It's a costume. Nothing about clothes or makeup make you wrong or broken. If you don't like how the clothes make you look, get other clothes. It honest to god is that simple.

Girls and women can do and think whatever the fuck they like, and their identity as women is not in any way invalidated by that. That right fucking there is the freedom that nascent feminism fought for. Please for the love of god, don't surrender it to be trendy and think yourself back into a box of imposed femininity in the name of gender theory, or being a good ally.

Don't confuse being an adolescent and being confused about where you fit in, and being lonely amd sometimes hurt, with gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is rare as fuck. Feeling awkward and sad and trying to figure out who you are is fucking universal. Morrissey is a fucking millionaire because of this. This is happening to the boys too. They just aren't talking about it on tumblr, or to anyone, because that's what boys do to handle this, and that's in part why they grow up to disproportionately commit suicide and experience mental health problems. We aren't doing them aaaaany fucking favours by telling them there's only one way to be a girl and one way to be a man, by the way, we really aren't. It happens to everyone. It's ok to be weird. It's okay to be weird forever, if you want. It's ok to take fucking years to figure out who you are, what you like, what you want to do with your life, who you love. It's okay for all those things not to line up into a perfect neat teen tv show package. It's okay to love Sephora runs and hockey games. It's okay to cut your hair and drive a truck and stan Taylor Swift.

It's okay to be whoever you are. It's okay to be you. You are okay. You matter. You are going to be fine. Just be a little kind to yourself.

TL;DR: TFW the troon article basically admits that troons actually enforce the gender binary because for some arbitrary reason they can't do/like/feel/think x and be a girl (or boy) and then assume they must be the opposite (or cheat and call themselves non-binary so they can have their cake and eat it too), all while claiming they reject the gender binary.

 

[break these cuffs]

Being a girl has nothing to do with how successfully or enthusiasically you perform femininity.

Please, please, girls and young women, never forget this, or have this knocked out of your understanding and your sense of self. You are a whole fucking person just the way you are, and the person you are doesn't determine what gender or sexuality you 'should' be.

You can wear boots and dungarees and twenty tattoos and shave your head, and be as happy as a clam as a straight cis woman who just likes to dress that way. You can play video games and MTG and do STEM degrees and none of that makes you any less of a girl than anyone. You can be a glitter strewn karaoke pageant princess and be as gay as a spring parade. You don't need any motherfucker's permission to be yourself, just the way you are. There aren't some set of arcane rules you need to fit into. Don't break the criminal law, try not to intentionally be a dick to people, be kind when you can. That's it. Your performance of femininity isn't on that list.

You don't become less female because of anything you read, write, say, watch, or do. Anyone who tells you anything different is policing your behaviour to impose cultural norms of femininity, and that is bullshit. That is the prima facie bullshit that feminism rejects. This bullshit used to tell us we couldn't go to school, or university, or have careers because that was 'unfeminine' and 'masculinising'. This 'you're trans or enby if you don't like wearing a dress' is the same fucking bullshit packaged in fancy words and muh social justice. Your taste in fucking clothing doesn't make your body fucking wrong or gross, my god. It's fucking clothes. It's a costume. Nothing about clothes or makeup make you wrong or broken. If you don't like how the clothes make you look, get other clothes. It honest to god is that simple.

Girls and women can do and think whatever the fuck they like, and their identity as women is not in any way invalidated by that. That right fucking there is the freedom that nascent feminism fought for. Please for the love of god, don't surrender it to be trendy and think yourself back into a box of imposed femininity in the name of gender theory, or being a good ally.

Don't confuse being an adolescent and being confused about where you fit in, and being lonely amd sometimes hurt, with gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is rare as fuck. Feeling awkward and sad and trying to figure out who you are is fucking universal. Morrissey is a fucking millionaire because of this. This is happening to the boys too. They just aren't talking about it on tumblr, or to anyone, because that's what boys do to handle this, and that's in part why they grow up to disproportionately commit suicide and experience mental health problems. We aren't doing them aaaaany fucking favours by telling them there's only one way to be a girl and one way to be a man, by the way, we really aren't. It happens to everyone. It's ok to be weird. It's okay to be weird forever, if you want. It's ok to take fucking years to figure out who you are, what you like, what you want to do with your life, who you love. It's okay for all those things not to line up into a perfect neat teen tv show package. It's okay to love Sephora runs and hockey games. It's okay to cut your hair and drive a truck and stan Taylor Swift.

It's okay to be whoever you are. It's okay to be you. You are okay. You matter. You are going to be fine. Just be a little kind to yourself.

When I went back to school some years ago, the extent of the LGBQQ agitprop were little stickers on the doors of profs who were SAFE certified, I think that was the term, and a poster in one building that said tl;dr - it's okay to be yourself. You can be a woman who wants to be a lumberjack or a dude who wants to be a hair dresser, just be you. Nobody gives a fuck. The message was; this isn't high school, quit being a dick an just be yourself. I wasn't always a rightwing nutjob. I tried to embrace leftism and in short order I went farther right than I'd ever been before because the future of leftism horrified me.

 

[Male Idiot]

isn't this how orcs are made?

Nah this is offensive to good little orcs. They are not this crazy, not even the ones who try to loot the Carnifex or charge Gandalf.

 

[Trilby]

Fuck's sake, just be a tomboy. Too many teenage girls are going the troon route because they think it's the only alternative to being a bitchy cheerleader jailbait type, and plenty of online troons aren't helping with this sort of shit. Females come in all shapes and sizes and can wear whatever they want. You don't need surgeries to do any of that.

Weird they just can't be tomboys at all. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Hummingbird]

That smug, punchable face.

In one paragraph says that xey didn't fit in with any brand of femininity. In another xir loves booty shorts and lipstick.

so what does this bitch want? It sounds like she took what was a normal case of being tomboyish but also liking makeup and some girly things and decided that those two aspects can't possibly exist in one person in the current year. After all, Tumblr says so.





So is non-binary too common now on the internet? So now we have a transman who is also gender fluid? Or something like that. It's getting so crazy and nonsensical that it all feels like trolling. But sadly it's not.

She wants to lop off her boobs and tear out her lady bits and still dress like woman. Maybe she can get one of those nightmarish phalloplasties. So what does that make her a ftm mtf? Have we reached the edge of the genderspecial universe? Will we have transgendered transgenders? I'm an AFAB transman who is transitioning to transwoman. After this there's nowhere left to go. But I have a feeling it may start happening as everyone is now trans or non-binary and it's going to get boring and not snowflakey enough for the worst of the lot. You have to be this genderspecial to be a part of the LGBTLMNOPWTFBBQWXYZ+ community. All the normal LGB people will just be lumped in with the boring straights.

She can mutilate her body all she wants. But she sounds majorly unstable and no doctor in their right mind should perform the surgery. But thanks to informed consent anyone is free to ruin themselves way too easily. I think she's just a confused tomboy who will mutilate herself to fit into a box of her own creation.

I have a feeling it went like this: Tomboyish girl pressured into being more feminine by traditionally minded parents. She rebelled as children do when pushed. She became upset with herself when her parents were disappointed that she wasn't into the same stuff as her sister. So she developed a complex and compared herself to other girls obsessively until she came to the conclusion that she wasn't a girl at all because she could never be like her sister or other feminine girls. At a time where she probably needed therapy she instead changed her name to Sebastian and decided she can transition while still wearing makeup and women's clothes. Because that will totally fix the problem. She's not a tomboyish girl, she's a transman who likes feminine things. Problem solved. Die cis scum.

She may regret this someday. She's obsessed with labels and I think that's her main problem. Everyone had a label but her. So rather than say "fuck it" and be herself she's created some frankentranny persona in an attempt to be the most unique snowflake possible. "Look at me while I simultaneously reject and embrace femininity! Mom? Dad? Sis? Do you finally see the real me? It's not a phase! This is who I am!"

It sounds like the cry of an insane person. Someone who really isn't sure enough of their gender to have surgery at all. But she will get it. At least she will probably not have biological children. And I doubt she'd pass the rigors of approval for adoption.

And she looks like every other female non-binary/transtrender out there.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Fareal, what do you think about trans-identifying teenage girls who still dress extremely femininely? There's more of them than you might think.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

"I'm not like all those other, normal girls who only care about frivolous bullshit" -- at least one subculture of girls since subcultures began. Usually this subculture of girls is full of girls who will deliberately curtail some activities they like because they're too girly, and will sneer at other girls even when they're enjoying something they themselves used to enjoy prior to their subculture identification.

This particular subculture is just the first to use the tactic of "I'm actually not a girl at all, so I definitely can't be like them, even if I share their interests and dress like them!"