you are but a product of your environment, a product of your upbringing
I disagree greatly with this. While it can happen, it's not 100%.
One of my bestest friends in the whole wide world was a child victim of domestic abuse. He's all grown up now, has kids of his own, and he has NEVER once raised his hand to his children. They are the happiest, most beautiful children around.
If he was a product of his upbringing, he'd be abusing the fuck out of his children.
This also doesn't make sense with loveshy and incels. Products of their upbringing.... well most of these loveshy/incel types HAD a mother and a father who loved them as much as the next kid. It's not like they were starved for love. So what produces an incel or loveshy? Because, as far as I can tell, a completely normal childhood is what most of these kids have.
Holden, for example, had a mother and a father who provided him with above standard levels of parenting and care. He has food, shelter, clothing, nice things like a computer and a chance at education. As far as we've ever been told, his parents never beat him or molested him. They provided him with the same care and love anyone would be happy to receive. The ONLY downfall Holden seems to have had is that he was overly shy of girls at a young age. But guess what? MOST people get that shyness around puberty anyway. That's when you start realizing that you like people in that "like like" type of way. MOST people get over it themselves. They don't need their parents to do it for them.
So, again I ask, what kind of upbringing produces children like Holden or other incels and loveshy?
