💊 Manosphere IceCat - the defender of loveshies

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Well, I'm guilty of power level derailing, too, but we have an interview with Señor @IceCat tomorrow that should provide discussion.

What kind of questions will you be asking and will other Kiwis be able to input their own?
 
Guys, guys, I think I'm onto something.

See, way back when man was split between Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon, females chose men based on three major factors.

1. Aggressiveness
Females needed men that were able to be territorial, and maintain order in their families. Without this aggressiveness, they would be taken out much more easily.
2. Musculature
Women were able to tell apart hard workers from non-workers based on muscle mass.
3. Penis Size
Males were chosen for their penis sizes. In fact, humans today have larger penises than any other primate due to this.

What I'm getting at with this is, to be blunt...

Loveshies are 2.6 million years in the past with their thinking. They are literally functioning with the same mentality as Neanderthals.

My god. Devolution has just been proven.

Neanderthal were hearty as fuck and capable of complex expressions of empathy.

Loveshies lose their spaghetti over being rejected and only care about others insofar as they relate to loveshies' delusional sexual frustrations.

I'll throw my lot in with Team Mousterian.
 
What kind of questions will you be asking and will other Kiwis be able to input their own?
Well, I'm counting on other Kiwis to message me questions they want to know. Nothing hostile, obviously, but if there's anything you guys want to know, feel free to PM me.

Nothing that's been asked a billion times before, please. Don't worry, I'll have my own questions, as well.
 
Right, so I looked at how many pages Fuckbot v0.9 Alpha created, and said fuck it.

What I miss during this rollercoaster? I'd ask if he ever bothered to explain why he and these other loveshies needs women so badly when friendships and late night -REDACTED- work to about the same degree, but I know he didn't answer that.
 
I haven't asked a single person to input their life story. I asked Icecat why he defends loveshies when all WE'VE seen is loveshies who complain about how hard their lives are, when in reality, we've seen that this isn't true. I was asking Icecat for his opinion on what makes loveshy lives so hard.

He said it was their upbringing.

I said it couldn't be because (list of people) had terrible upbringings but they still becomes beautiful and wonderful people.

Next thing I know, we've got three people spilling the beans all over.

This'll be my last message on the topic I swear, but I suddenly realize why there was some miscommunication.
Icecat believes loveshys lives are sooooo hard because they are loveshy because of their upbringing, which caused you to ask whether upbringing is indeed an important factor in being loveshy.

I merely tried to make the point that I do believe upbringing is an important factor in developing hang ups in general, but I didn't realize this made me sound like I agreed with Icecat on his other assumption that the lives of the Loveshy forum members suck because of their loveshyness and we should feel sorry for them.

Because I see it more like failing to master eating with cutlery, or using public urinals. It's rather degrading and fucked up that you don't manage to do such a basic task, but it hardly is the defining factor whether your life sucks or not. I've got a monogamous and deeply fullfilling relationship with my right hand, as soon as I finally find a job so my parents don't own me anymore I'm golden :P

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This'll be my last message on the topic I swear, but I suddenly realize why there was some miscommunication.
Icecat believes loveshys lives are sooooo hard because they are loveshy because of their upbringing, which caused you to ask whether upbringing is indeed an important factor in being loveshy.

I merely tried to make the point that I do believe upbringing is an important factor in developing hang ups in general, but I didn't realize this made me sound like I agreed with Icecat on his other assumption that the lives of the Loveshy forum members suck because of their loveshyness and we should feel sorry for them.

Because I see it more like failing to master eating with cutlery, or using public urinals. It's rather degrading and fucked up that you don't manage to do such a basic task, but it hardly is the defining factor whether your life sucks or not. I've got a monogamous and deeply fullfilling relationship with my right hand, as soon as I finally find a job so my parents don't own me anymore I'm golden :P

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It's all cool, broheim. I was harsh on you and I apologize for it. Now... shall you draw your sword and help us slay?
 
I always knew you had it in you Ice Man
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Getting back on the topic of @IceCat ...

Why is it that you cling so violently to your own opinions, with refusal to sway in the face of evidence? I know that can be asked to ALL Loveshies, but I'd like to know your reason in particular. It's because you don't seem to actually be too much of an autist yourself, and rather a misguided whiteknight.
 
I'm really not sure how this went from asking Icecat why he does what he does to a circle jerk of emotions; but if my single question to Icecat started it, I sincerely apologize.

I think this is mostly on me. I got so fed up with hearing these stories of parents who just lost perspective for a time being called abusive and considering it to be crippling that I too lost perspective.

My main point was the vast majority of loveshy stories throw this term around without fully understanding what it means. By their logic, it's abuse of insurmountable trauma for elementary school teachers to give a whole class detention because one student broke a rule and wouldn't step forward. This logic is offensive to those who suffered real abuse, and thoroughly disproven by those of us who are making progress in overcoming said abuse.

IceCat, why do you defend people who use this logic to defend the static state of their mind and use it to label themselves as "traumatized"?

flossman, if we don't get a post on this before your interview, how about including this question?
 
Getting back on the topic of @IceCat ...

Why is it that you cling so violently to your own opinions, with refusal to sway in the face of evidence? I know that can be asked to ALL Loveshies, but I'd like to know your reason in particular. It's because you don't seem to actually be too much of an autist yourself, and rather a misguided whiteknight.
I really haven't seen much good evidence against the things I believe in, and of-course personally have seen much evidence for most of the things I talk about
 
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