Containment Idea Guy / Joshua Wise (Manipulating the intellecutally disabled for fun) Megathread

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BigTubboWithLittleChina said:
Possibly - and it's :optimistic: as hell - some very clever and persistent troll came at him initially with a suitably flattering 'oh wow - you're psychic? Hey, me too' approach, built on that gradually, went via 'I've visited CWCville as well', to 'hey - guess what Rosechu said to me when I bumped into her...'

It would take some real perseverance and slyness, but someone claiming to be passing on Rosechu's words, rather than being Rosechu herself, at least seems plausible to me.
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I think this is just Chris's own ham-fisted attempt to spice up his content with more drama and to keep his True and Loyal Fanbase interested. Although, technically, past trolls did managed to alter his comics by posing as gal pals and ending up being introduced there.
 
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They're probably not pretending to be a Sonichu character, but pretending to have the same psychic powers that Chris thinks he has. So they can claim they channeled their powers and talked to magi-chan and he said it's time to start up the ovens.
 
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Mogambo said:
Which is another reason I've suspected Chris isn't really "trans" in the first place. I'm not trying to gatekeep, I don't have an agenda here, but Chris definitely still seems to have a certain amount of discomfort over the whole thing. In particular he went on an autistic binge of making everything and everything LGBTQ in his comics, including his own cartoon avatars... but conspicuously excluding Sonichu himself. Yeah I get that the comic is now mostly about cartoon Chris frolicking with ponies but it still seems a rather glaring omission to me.



I personally don't advocate interesting with Chris, even for the old inner circle, but I would still probably laugh if someone got Chris to believe more weird bullshit and produce some quality content. Hell him freaking out about Rosechu's pickle is hilarious already. Much better than more pony shit.



Yeah, certainly to an extent. The whole trans thing is interesting in that Chris is so isolated and naive that it seems very odd to me, but then again all the Lolcows seem to be latching onto the trans identity. Many of them much worse than Chris actually. They make it the whole crux of their identity! It seems to be the "hip," "trendy" thing in pop culture right now, so for whatever reason that seems to be where they're getting it from. Tumblr is one helluva drug. But Chris seems so disinterested in media and pop culture that I honestly wonder where he was exposed to so much of it.


At this point I fear the damage has already been done. We've fucked up Chris' life almost as much as he has.
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Chris has always been a complete slave to pop culture trends in the youth demographic to the point that he will scoff at cool stuff and prop up things that are presented as cool despite no one really caring.


Case in point MLP vs ATHF. Chris loved 80s/90s MLP. A show everyone forgot about or didn't care about, but hated ATHF when the show came out until it started to "catch on" (which is an industry term for large groups of people liking something so much it becomes successful).

I miss the old days though. I think it's harmless for someone to mess with Chris in pretending to be his Arch-Nemesis or an Imposter trying to take his CWC-Ville. It's hilarious and really goes with the Truman show vibe that is Chris' life. The trolls aren't getting to Chris anymore than he is letting them.
 
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So is Rosechu dick funny or not. I mean for fuck's sake I wanna decide if our new OPL's personal weenie earns a plu for trickery or not.
 
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Would Chris stop summoning his imaginary pals? Why are they so fucking concrete and real to him that they literally are now beyond his control?

If Chris shoots out a bank and runs off, will he claim Sonichu did it and it was beyond his control?
 
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I don't know if this belongs in Randon Updates or here but here's some tweets by someone Chris and a couple of his trolls and fans follows. Is it BS? Maybe. 100 people could say the same thing:

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Caz said:
I think this is just Chris's own ham-fisted attempt to spice up his content with more drama and to keep his True and Loyal Fanbase interested. Although, technically, past trolls did managed to alter his comics by posing as gal pals and ending up being introduced there.
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Yeah but that was more or less by a special request from a special sweetheart. This isn't the character itself demanding that the record be set straight lol.

FightenGnome said:
Chris has always been a complete slave to pop culture trends in the youth demographic to the point that he will scoff at cool stuff and prop up things that are presented as cool despite no one really caring.


Case in point MLP vs ATHF. Chris loved 80s/90s MLP. A show everyone forgot about or didn't care about, but hated ATHF when the show came out until it started to "catch on" (which is an industry term for large groups of people liking something so much it becomes successful).

I miss the old days though. I think it's harmless for someone to mess with Chris in pretending to be his Arch-Nemesis or an Imposter trying to take his CWC-Ville. It's hilarious and really goes with the Truman show vibe that is Chris' life. The trolls aren't getting to Chris anymore than he is letting them.
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I think this argument is beginning to wear thin for me.. It's been 10 years of trolling and Chris still hasn't learned anything, or even learned the wrong things. Because he is ultimately an exceptional individual who shouldn't be on the internet in the 1st place.

I think it's clear by now that Chris isn't letting anyone do anything to him, he simply isn't mentally equipped to allow or disallow any trolling to happen to him.

Which is not me saying "poor disabled boy", it goes beyond his manageable disability. Chris has no cognitive issues, which means that he *should* have been able to function ok both in society and on the Internet. Like Marvin said, Chris has no critical thinking skills at all, zero. Which is quite the accomplishment of failure by his parents.
 
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Cuntster said:
Calling it now: Jessica Quinn is the ghostwriter.
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Part of me wonders if Jessica Quinn was a strategic entry for the puppet master. Jessica becomes his GF, introduces him to a friend of hers (who may be someone willing to meet Chris in person). Jessica leaves him and blames it on trolls, mutual friend is the supportive friend Chris can turn to while he's upset.

Basically put Chris in a vulnerable state, then take advantage of that vulnerability. That way you don't have to maintain the facade of a sweetheart very long.
 
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Part of me wonders if Jessica Quinn was a strategic entry for the puppet master. Jessica becomes his GF, introduces him to a friend of hers (who may be someone willing to meet Chris in person). Jessica leaves him and blames it on trolls, mutual friend is the supportive friend Chris can turn to while he's upset.

Basically put Chris in a vulnerable state, then take advantage of that vulnerability. That way you don't have to maintain the facade of a sweetheart very long.
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This may be a wild theory, but it's possible Chris got a little handsy with this "friend" seeing as he has no concept of boundaries, she tells Jessica and now he's being threatened with exposure. Hence Rosechu is transgender and Sonichu's birthday has been retconned.
 
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I can see whoever Chris thinks is Rosechu for real (what the fuck did I just wrote, really) telling him: "Test me, ask me something only Rosechu knows", and then Chris asking some bullshit anyone with a passing knowledge of Sonichu/CWCki would know, since curiously, I have observed that any run of the mill christorian apparently remembers Chris' life better than him.

It'd have been fun if Chris came up with all this batshit "Sonichu for realsies" lunacy back in the days of Liquid or Jimmy Hill. Trolls could have argued that Chris was only tapping into Sonichuverse without being his creator, and shamelessly inserting himself in the comics. Fuck, throw in some half assed photoshoped picture that somehow shows Sonichu material years before Chris came up with it and the goddamn moron could even doubt it himself.
 
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Kinda late to the discussion, and while I usually agree with @Marvin ’s opinions, this time I think it’s wrong to assume there’s a troll playing Rosechu behind his back, and I think all this (well... Twitter pool aside, probably) is basically Chris trolling himself.

Chris always saw his comic as masterpieces, true, but masterpieces that could be improved and made more lifelike, he hoped trough a video game or a tv series.
Then he saw "Rosechu story", and it was just like everything he always dreamed of: it’s professionally drawn, the characters motivations are well established, there’s drama, there’s action... it was just like the cartoons he loved so much, but with his own characters, even better!

So he probably took it as “canon”.
Now, bear in mind, like we saw during the Asperchu saga, to him every comic instance of Sonichu & Co. in comic form are actually his characters, either living adventures he didn’t know about or being impersonated by lookalikes (just like Sonic In Sonichu is actually Silvana disguised).
I think he took "Rosechu story" as the first instance: still his story, but with some more details.

Only afterwards he realized @Trickie 's changes to the plot, like Rosechu being male (and thus having a penis) before she transformed. Realizing this, Chris decided to do the most rational thing to do: ask Rosechu directly!

Now, no troll is needed for this since Chris thinks he can actually talk with his creatures (Mary Lee Walsh said he started talking with them when she punished him one time) and so he did.
The real strange thing is that, when confornted with ths information, the Rosechu inside Chris' mind (maybe because it mirrors his own feel of being a female born with the wrong anatomy) actually responded that it was true, and that she had a penis.
Chris, being Chris, was obviously destroyed by this information and, in his usual passive agressive way, asked the public if they prefer to hurt him (admitting Rosechu's trans status) or Rosechu (deleting her past history and making her a girl from the start).
The fact that he cancelled everything after the option that would hurt him most won just underlines how much of a dick he can be, even towards his own creatures, that he thinks are alive.

TL:DR: Chris wasn't fed this by a troll IMHO, but was punished by following the super autistic rules he himself set on how to deal with his Roger Rabbit like alterante cartoon world.
 
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