If all the lowest 30% were magically gone...

93 IQ isn't smart. Some things to keep in mind:
  • At most colleges & universities, the cutoff score for admissions correlates to 100 IQ, meaning 93 IQ is dumber than the dumb majors, like English and communications.
  • IIRC, the average IQ for some of the most bottom-tier jobs is in the 90s. Sub-90 IQ isn't a mailman or trash truck driver, it's a mouth-breathing retard who lives on welfare and/or petty crime.
Losing those people would be a massive improvement. It wouldn't fix white birth rates, but our social energy not revolving around idiots and their problems would be great.
I don't believe that since by definition, 100 IQ is average. 93 IQ is below average i.e. noticeably dumb, but functional. Like for instance, consider the average black IQ is 85, but the black unemployment rate isn't too much higher than the white unemployment rate. Blacks are only twice as likely as other races to use welfare, food stamps, etc. which again tracks with 85 IQ still permitting one to function in society. A person with 85 IQ can be a very capable and hardworking person at manual labor and such. A lot of higher IQ blacks are committing crime too, since they start off like all other black criminals as low-level street thugs and drug dealers but they end up being gang leaders (if they survive long enough) since they have the intelligence to know how to manipulate the lower IQ thugs, run a business (drug dealing), handle with other gang leaders (i.e. truces, starting gang wars), etc.

Actual mental impairment doesn't start until 75 IQ. That's highest IQ people in the Special Olympics are allowed to have for instance, and some government programs are also targeted to people with that IQ. 75-85 is borderline, but those people are usually capable of menial work.
 
How many have had their IQ actually tested in adulthood? Maybe mine’s 92.
I'm not trying to flatter you, but I find this highly doubtful!

It’s funny that you have to head-off the sub-93 replies like this. “But that’s not feasible” is logical identical to “but I did have breakfast this morning” - so you know that someone is going to go there.
Good analogy. Well, I tried!

I'm just not interested in spinning up the list of scenarios whereby this could come about because attention is a finite thing and people spending it on debating that is just a diversion from what interests me which is how the impact on the functioning of society and the role of the 30th percentile in it. We could sci-fi some eugenics program up if we wanted, we could imagine the Elites decide to purge, whatever.

93 IQ isn't smart. Some things to keep in mind:
Well yes, that's kind of my point! :) However, it's not impaired either. I listed it out to give people a specific value for what the 30th percentile begins at, to save people doing some arithmetic.

  • At most colleges & universities, the cutoff score for admissions correlates to 100 IQ, meaning 93 IQ is dumber than the dumb majors, like English and communications.
Now be fair, studying English Literature for example, doesn't mean one is stupid. It simply has lower barriers to entry allowing the stupid to do so. And there's a perception that it's easy for those that simply want to go to University for its own sake. Don't take my G K Chesterton away from me. ;)

Now that said, the collapse of Media Studies departments across the land is one of those interesting consequences the thread is about, so fair.
  • IIRC, the average IQ for some of the most bottom-tier jobs is in the 90s. Sub-90 IQ isn't a mailman or trash truck driver, it's a mouth-breathing retard who lives on welfare and/or petty crime.
That's actually incorrect. One third of the population is not retarded (though it may feel so). Functional impairment is around 70-85 IQ with actual retardation starting below 70, generally.
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I think this is important to highlight because I'm not talking about "what would happen if we removed everyone with mental impairment" because that's both a sad and also not very interesting discussion. I'm talking about if a significant number of functional people were gone, if suddenly the mean intelligence of mankind shifted upwards significantly. What would such a society be like? Evolution is not, as some people think of it, a drive ever upwards. So is there a purpose for this spread in intelligence or is it just still working itself out.

Losing those people would be a massive improvement. It wouldn't fix white birth rates, but our social energy not revolving around idiots and their problems would be great.
It would certainly have an interesting effect on birth rates because as people have pointed out, this would lead to significantly more women then men. Which could have a significant impact on social values as well. If this weren't a one-time blip but a cut-off point that persisted (though I'm not talking about it always being 30th percentile always revising upwards), then either men and women would normalise in their spread or you'd continue to have women outnumber men.

You never specified adults in your hypothesis so the "lowest" IQ would be majority children and infants with a sprinkling of retards.
Well IQ in this instance was a way to convey to people what the lowest 30% would be using a metric people were familiar with. The essence of the idea is that the less smart people are gone. That could be some totalitarian culling of children who don't make the grade when they reach The Age of Testing, but it could equally be a mass-acceptance of eugenics and everybody using only sperm and eggs from people above a certain level.

One thing smart people do is revise things to improve them. So I'll refine the proposed scenario to say this isn't comparing adults with children. It's across all ages.

Actual mental impairment doesn't start until 75 IQ. That's highest IQ people in the Special Olympics are allowed to have for instance, and some government programs are also targeted to people with that IQ. 75-85 is borderline, but those people are usually capable of menial work.
Yes. He over-estimated what 93 IQ is. You have the right of it.
 
At most colleges & universities, the cutoff score for admissions correlates to 100 IQ,
Maybe where you live. Where I live the top 10-15% at maximum used to go to university. Blair insisted that 50% of young adults should be in university. I cant find numbers for this year but a quick google tells me that in 2019, a little over half spent to university. So by definition we have sub 100IQ students.
I used to teach for a while at a Russel group uni, and the difference pre and post Blair era expansion was very noticeable. Massive dumbing down (and I was teaching genetics to students and medical students, these weren’t gender studies kids, they were supposed to be on more demanding courses.) I can only imagine what it’s like nowadays
Edited to opine on @Overly Serious question on if there’s a purpose to the spread. I think like you say there’s no direction to evolution. You can assume that either:
1. intelligence for the individual is not a sufficiently large driver of breeding success (proportionally) to raise the IQ of the group continuously
Or
B: other factors that correlate with lower intelligence or at least not higher intelligence somehow confound the process. One example I could think of is how the autism rate is sky high in Silicon Valley and around MIT. Two spergs breeding gives you high rates of the ‘tism. When we had a culture of nasa test pilots marrying the prom queen, we were landing on the moon and everyone looked far more human.
Perhaps the genes involved in raw intelligence are linked (physical linkage) to depressive traits purely by chance. This can happen. If two alleles are physically close on a chromosome they’re more likely to be inherited together.

On the other hand, IQs seem to be falling, partially demographics but I think partially just general dumbing down
 
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OTOH - Redditers would become the majority of the planet.

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Imagine this but without the left hand side of the chart.
This one gets brought up occasionally but not often enough, and IMHO is unironically true. Higher end STEM types generally don't buy The Narrative(tm) (though they tend to keep quiet about it), and neither do Tyrone and Cleetus. Whereas the normie range seem to be completely programmable NPCs. Wonder why that is.
 
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93 is too high. Now 80 and above is just right. An 80 is individual can be tasked with simple jobs and they can usually know when something is a really bad idea. It would still rid the world of most bad seeds while still giving us a class of low skilled workers
 
This one gets brought up occasionally but not often enough, and IMHO is unironically true. Higher end STEM types generally don't buy The Narrative(tm) (though they tend to keep quiet about it), and neither do Tyrone and Cleetus. Whereas the normie range seem to be completely programmable NPCs. Wonder why that is.
No, I can say with certainty STEM is flooded with insane liberals acting participating in a deathcult. Not everyone in the STEMs is insane, but the institutions are ruled by the DEI brigade who genuinely believe in it.
 
I think the world would somehow be as retarded as before, but with less laborers and more people who can purchase and justify their addictions. Like, in addition to the labor and population problems, the middle would now be the low end and the high end people would likely have some status lost. That's a bitch if you're used to not being treated like dirt, especially if people start bullying you for escaping the mongoloid purge by 1-5 points. It would suck socially and put more pressure on everyone to compensate and either a giant ego or a giant guilt complex for the ones higher up.

We'd also likely have some low IQ population back within however many generations since genetics are kind of a bitch and can arrange themselves wrong, and petitions by smart patents to keep their tard babies because parents aren't always cruel lolcows. There would also be a lot of mourning if there wasn't a way to save the lower portion of the population. Tards have loved ones and the loss of human life on a grand scale is still horrifying for most of us.

Lastly, how often does the culling have to happen? Even if no new 30% are born, would people try and delete the next lowest 30%? It's an unnatural selection that could eventually lead to genetic bottlenecking if left unchecked. Inbreeding could be a problem in smaller countries and depending on how random genetics align, smart people could be hit hard by a disease they're more hard hit by than their dumber cousins due to a few genetics on the tard genes resisting it bettering, leaving less smart people than what we started with.
 
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Whereas the normie range seem to be completely programmable NPCs. Wonder why that is.
A thing I've noticed with people I'd consider to be normies is that they don't properly handle recursive tasks. The most prominent example is vetting sources, most will properly click through a couple hops and then lose interest and implicitly trust whichever page they land on.

Bullshit news aggregator A cites
Bullshit aggregator B cites
Local news C cites
Press release D.

Normies will read A, think "I should check the source on this" and click through to B, maybe C, and then just stop because D is some corporate website they've never heard of that probably uses domain-specific language (good luck if it's a science article linking to arxiv or anything served as a PDF..) and assume that C is just rephrasing D verbatim without actually checking for themselves. Combine this with neurolinguistic trickery like anchoring and political bias and the tendency for repeated citations to lose information and you get the current NPC reaction to Project 2025. Of course it gets even worse when they repost it on social media and don't cite a source to begin with; shoutout to Tumblr for being hilariously horrible with this and hosting some of the dumbest, most histrionic conversations I've ever seen about current events.

This rant brought to you by an encounter with a coworker who absolutely didn't believe the Crowdstrike incident happened at all due to an oddly-worded article about it with a long citation chain. Just remembering that is giving me a headache.
 
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A thing I've noticed with people I'd consider to be normies is that they don't properly handle recursive tasks. The most prominent example is vetting sources, most will properly click through a couple hops and then lose interest and implicitly trust whichever page they land on.

Bullshit news aggregator A cites
Bullshit aggregator B cites
Local news C cites
Press release D.

Normies will read A, think "I should check the source on this" and click through to B, maybe C, and then just stop because D is some corporate website they've never heard of that probably uses domain-specific language (good luck if it's a science article linking to arxiv or anything served as a PDF..) and assume that C is just rephrasing D verbatim without actually checking for themselves. Combine this with neurolinguistic trickery like anchoring and political bias and the tendency for repeated citations to lose information and you get the current NPC reaction to Project 2025. Of course it gets even worse when they repost it on social media and don't cite a source to begin with; shoutout to Tumblr for being hilariously horrible with this and hosting some of the dumbest, most histrionic conversations I've ever seen about current events.

This rant brought to you by an encounter with a coworker who absolutely didn't believe the Crowdstrike incident happened at all due to an oddly-worded article about it with a long citation chain. Just remembering that is giving me a headache.
My uneducated guess is that language games (something the leftist "intellectuals" have been absolutely obsessed with way before NLP and the like became officially codified) don't work too well on more intuitive types who see words as just a way to describe objective physical reality. And they sure as shit don't work on a guy who lacks internal monologue and whose natural reaction upon getting irritated is to hit someone over the head with a club. Though the amount of socialization (once again, highest among normies) probably plays a role.
 
there could ve a manual labor crisis because now who will do the shit jobs no one really wants to do?
At least with retail and fastfood, the void could be filled with teenagers, but findinf management will be hard.
 
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