Insurrection 2021

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Elections demand transparency for them to be valid, the law says the voters must have disclosure about the process and how the voting is processed.

The election is transparent, there were recounts and every other system to prevent large-scale fraud as well as every system to check and verify the whole election and counting procedures were in place. You pretend like they just shredded all ballots and declared Biden the victor and that's just silly.

And just for shits n giggles, when prompted, Trump couldn't bring anything to the table to bring evidence of the election fraud, he could deliver nothing and made himself look like a fool (well, more of a fool, when you consider this year's highpoint was him suggesting to inject desinfectant to combat Corona). You're telling me there is publically available, undeniable proof that hundreds of thousands of votes have been given by people that are actually dead? Fine. Post links to that stuff, not just some greentext screencap by some /pol/tard high on bathsalts.
I'd absolutely l o v e to see this evidence.

If this is such a clear cut case, why can't Trump find enough support at the massively and overwhelmingly GOP-leaning supreme court? Can you explain this with anything other than paranoid accusations of betrayal?

This is absolutely impossible to be done with tampering ballots physically, so how the hell was this done if not electronically?

So you agree that the testimony of a daywage cleaner lady claiming to have seen ballots being counted mutliple times is bullshit. Nice to know.

 

[Fek]

I really tire of how prevalent this attitude has become during this shit show:

Weird thing is, I’ve just stopped caring, really.

Of course you have. Time to go back to your distractions and forget all about how badly the elite just assfucked a pillar of our nation right into the dirt, right? That'll show 'em.

Like, yeah I voted for Trump, but that was mainly because I don’t like Kamala and Joe is just kind of there.

Can you name even 5 reasons why you voted beyond "I just don't like Kamala and Joe is meh," do you think? This reads like pure defacto low information voting.

Yeah I’m a little suspicious about the votes, but that’s mainly because I’d like the system to be as airtight as possible and for there to not be doubt.

So you do care about the system not being riddled with corruption? Yet you've supposedly stopped caring, too? What sort of mental gymnastics does that take, exactly?

But really, I just want stuff to calm down so I can stop hearing politics all the time everyday.

This fucking attitude right here is why they'll get away with this shit the next time, and the next...and the next. This bullshit reads like someone complaining about "adulting" or some other manchild cringe shit. Maybe you and people who share this general opinion on the matter need to have politics shoved in your face every single day until you realize how important this shit is and that you have got to start caring more about it.

Of course it sucks, of course it'll drag you down, of course it stresses you out. Part of being an adult who gets to live in a healthy society is dealing with it, cause otherwise it'll only get worse from here.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I really tire of how prevalent this attitude has become during this shit show:

Of course you have. Time to go back to your distractions and forget all about how badly the elite just assfucked a pillar of our nation right into the dirt, right? That'll show 'em.

Can you name even 5 reasons why you voted beyond "I just don't like Kamala and Joe is meh," do you think? This reads like pure defacto low information voting.

So you do care about the system not being riddled with corruption? Yet you've supposedly stopped caring, too? What sort of mental gymnastics does that take, exactly?

This fucking attitude right here is why they'll get away with this shit the next time, and the next...and the next. This bullshit reads like someone complaining about "adulting" or some other manchild cringe shit. Maybe you and people who share this general opinion on the matter need to have politics shoved in your face every single day until you realize how important this shit is and that you have got to start caring more about it.

Of course it sucks, of course it'll drag you down, of course it stresses you out. Part of being an adult who gets to live in a healthy society is dealing with it, cause otherwise it'll only get worse from here.

And this is why your side won't win. If your reaction to someone being tired about politics is "REEE the beatings will continue until morale improves!", people will start to hate your ass. It's why people hated the Moral Majority, it's why people hate SJWs ("Everything is political!" ring any bells?), and, if that's the road you want to walk down, it's why people are going to hate whatever name your faction wants to call itself.

 

[big ups liquid richard]

So is there a timetable for congress voting on overriding the veto on that defense omnibus?
And when would it kick in?
I obviously don't expect Trump to Inssurection Act anybody but I'm curious when his ability to do so without the House approving stops being a thing .

They just did it this morning. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/house-votes-to-override-trump-ndaa-veto.html
The senate will surely do the same, cucking Trump again. He's now cucked on both this bill and the covid bill.

 

[XYZpdq]

They just did it this morning. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/house-votes-to-override-trump-ndaa-veto.html
The senate will surely do the same, cucking Trump again. He's now cucked on both this bill and the covid bill.

neat, so no idea when it would kick in, though?

 

[All becomes gunt]

The election is transparent, there were recounts and every other system to prevent large-scale fraud as well as every system to check and verify the whole election and counting procedures were in place. You pretend like they just shredded all ballots and declared Biden the victor and that's just silly.

And just for shits n giggles, when prompted, Trump couldn't bring anything to the table to bring evidence of the election fraud, he could deliver nothing and made himself look like a fool (well, more of a fool, when you consider this year's highpoint was him suggesting to inject desinfectant to combat Corona). You're telling me there is publically available, undeniable proof that hundreds of thousands of votes have been given by people that are actually dead? Fine. Post links to that stuff, not just some greentext screencap by some /pol/tard high on bathsalts.
I'd absolutely l o v e to see this evidence.

If this is such a clear cut case, why can't Trump find enough support at the massively and overwhelmingly GOP-leaning supreme court? Can you explain this with anything other than paranoid accusations of betrayal?


So you agree that the testimony of a daywage cleaner lady claiming to have seen ballots being counted mutliple times is bullshit. Nice to know.

At the end of the day as i always said it's not about what was done or what you say, it's about what you can deliver. Someone could shoot someone in the head but if you can't prove it in court at least and your avenue is a legal one you are not going to have a result. Same thing happens with war and many other stuff but i am going to use war as an example, sure the opponent used biochemicals and broke the "rules" and the Geneva conventions and code of conducts and rules of engagement and everything, but as long as there is noone to hold em accountable it's not going to matter. Rules and laws are made to chastise and punish the losers, the ones with less power at the end of the day, and whether you end up in the losing side by a miscalculation, an "inappropriate device/weapon", a betrayal or a fuckup is not going to matter.

Taking this example into account, law is what keeps people in line and keeps a society rolling, because the fair majority under the rule of law can do little to bend it to their advantage and also aren't immune to it as the higher and shadier figures that influence our lives, and thus the rule of law for them and i guess us is absolute in our current condition, because it's a higher power administering the justice and the rules it sees fit for the ones below. You can cry foul all you want but as long as you don't have the power or aren't given the power by the law to produce results, you will produce nothing.

The only fair judgment is divine judgment because that's the ultimate power and beyond our level and comprehension, but that's not something that we as mortals can deliver, not directly at least, therefore in our earthly lives the ones with power make rules and laws for the ones without. Whether you think it's fair or not doesn't matter if you can't do something about it. In conclusion, the only avenue to getting the justice you want out of a system you deem corrupt is gaining enough power to change it or game it in such a way that you come out on top. There is no wants and ifs and maybes, there is no at least you tried, there is winning and there is losing and at least for now Trump is a loser and that's the bottom line. If he wants to earn any respect from me or anyone at this point really he should stop being a weakling and become powerful. That's if he can of course and probably he can't.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

High information voting is the inability to discern between conjecture and fact, and the ability to never run out of excuses as to why the most badly-run and chaotic administration of the last half-century was barely able to deliver on any of its platform promises.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Dude. It's a company suing someone for libel. She's not exactly Snowden for making up fairytales about election fraud, but the right-wing victim complex is in full swing.

The difference between the UK and Singapore is that in the UK politicians do not, by convention, sue opposition MPs for defamation or libel.

Singapore dropped this convention. So if opposition MPs day anything mean about government ministers they are sued. Since the courts know which side their bread is buttered they invariably convict them of libel and issue a damages ruling. Damages from libel then bankrupt the opposition MP and bankrupts cannot serve as MPs.

So the end result is what seems like a very minor tweak to the Westminster system produces one party rule. Also the PAP was lead by Lee Kwan Yew who was effectively King and then a brief regency by Goh Chok Tong until Lee's son Lee Hsien Loong was old enough to take over as King.

It's easy to imagine an authoritarian system where companies rig the vote, the media tells you it didn't happen and then those companies sue anyone who claimed it did, bankrupting them. After a while people will realize that criticizing the rigged elections is ruinous and stop doing it, rather like in Singapore it's futile to criticize PAP politicians.

Having said all that Singapore is lot better run than China and probably the US. The PAP basically runs it like a big corporation. However I'm not convinced the Democrats would produce a long period of deregulated capitalism in the US like PAP did in Singapore. In fact they'd do almost the opposite.

The Lees may be tyrants but they understand economics. They also seem to have sense of noblesse obligé. Needless to say most authoritarian systems aren't run by people like this.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I really tire of how prevalent this attitude has become during this shit show:

Of course you have. Time to go back to your distractions and forget all about how badly the elite just assfucked a pillar of our nation right into the dirt, right? That'll show 'em.

Can you name even 5 reasons why you voted beyond "I just don't like Kamala and Joe is meh," do you think? This reads like pure defacto low information voting.

So you do care about the system not being riddled with corruption? Yet you've supposedly stopped caring, too? What sort of mental gymnastics does that take, exactly?

This fucking attitude right here is why they'll get away with this shit the next time, and the next...and the next. This bullshit reads like someone complaining about "adulting" or some other manchild cringe shit. Maybe you and people who share this general opinion on the matter need to have politics shoved in your face every single day until you realize how important this shit is and that you have got to start caring more about it.

Of course it sucks, of course it'll drag you down, of course it stresses you out. Part of being an adult who gets to live in a healthy society is dealing with it, cause otherwise it'll only get worse from here.

lol calm down.

And this is why your side won't win. If your reaction to someone being tired about politics is "REEE the beatings will continue until morale improves!", people will start to hate your ass. It's why people hated the Moral Majority, it's why people hate SJWs ("Everything is political!" ring any bells?), and, if that's the road you want to walk down, it's why people are going to hate whatever name your faction wants to call itself.

It can't be stated enough, this outrage bullshit is exactly the same kind of crap we get from libtard SJWs. If these guys actually manage to start shit on the 6th and buildings burn, they'll have become indistinguishable from the BLM crowd and it'll only be a difference of buzzwords that they fight over. MUH EQUALITY vs. MUH FRAUD. Great. I'll get the popcorn.

Never doubt though, it's okay when they do it. They are on the right side of history. If this is not just the salty wave after the election that'll run its course before smoothing out, but rather the start of their political attitude, they will take up the role of triggered SJWs until they find a pretense to riot some years down the line.
This is bad enough to make me hope people like Fek are just all talk, cause that would at least not amount to more violence on the streets.

The difference between the UK and Singapore is that in the UK politicians do not, by convention, sue opposition MPs for defamation or libel.

Singapore dropped this convention. So if opposition MPs day anything mean about government ministers they are sued. Since the courts know which side their bread is buttered they invariably convict them of libel and issue a damages ruling. Damages from libel then bankrupt the opposition MP and bankrupts cannot serve as MPs.

So the end result is what seems like a very minor tweak to the Westminster system produces one party rule. Also the PAP was lead by Lee Kwan Yew who was effectively King and then a brief regency by Goh Chok Tong until Lee's son Lee Hsien Loong was old enough to take over as King.

It's easy to imagine an authoritarian system where companies rig the vote, the media tells you it didn't happen and then those companies sue anyone who claimed it did, bankrupting them. After a while people will realize that criticizing the rigged elections is ruinous and stop doing it, rather like in Singapore it's futile to criticize PAP politicians.

Having said all that Singapore is lot better run than China and probably the US. The PAP basically runs it like a big corporation. However I'm not convinced the Democrats would produce a long period of deregulated capitalism in the US like PAP did in Singapore. In fact they'd do almost the opposite.

The Lees may be tyrants but they understand economics.

tl;dr. You're arguing against a statement no one, lest of all me, made at any point in this thread.

Alpha Karen made a claim about witnessing election fraud under the umbrella of that company. If that turns out to be falsified testimony, the victims of this libel are entitled to dragging her ass to court. Full stop.

 

[Odnovo]

Don't forget, Joe Biden is your president
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#notmypresident, faggot.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

lol calm down.

It can't be stated enough, this outrage bullshit is exactly the same kind of crap we get from libtard SJWs. If these guys actually manage to start shit on the 6th and buildings burn, they'll have become indistinguishable from the BLM crowd and it'll only be a difference of buzzwords that they fight over. MUH EQUALITY vs. MUH FRAUD. Great. I'll get the popcorn.

Never doubt though, it's okay when they do it. They are on the right side of history. If this is not just the salty wave after the election that'll run its course before smoothing out, but rather the start of their political attitude, they will take up the role of triggered SJWs until they find a pretense to riot some years down the line.
This is bad enough to make me hope people like Fek are just all talk, cause that would at least not amount to more violence on the streets.


tl;dr.

Alpha Karen made a claim about witnessing election fraud under the umbrella of that company. If that turns out to be falsified testimony, the victims of this libel are entitled to dragging her ass to court. Full stop.

Spergy violent Drumpftards will get Waco'd beyond common sense. Spergy lefty criminals break shit, ruin neighborhoods for years, and the DAs will free them because violence in the name of owning the orange man/"racial equality" is 200% fine.

That said Drumpf spergs will just cry like bitches, and maybe one or two tards will do anything of value.

 

[An Avenging Bird]

The difference between the UK and Singapore is that in the UK politicians do not, by convention, sue opposition MPs for defamation or libel.

Singapore dropped this convention. So if opposition MPs day anything mean about government ministers they are sued. Since the courts know which side their bread is buttered they invariably convict them of libel and issue a damages ruling. Damages from libel then bankrupt the opposition MP and bankrupts cannot serve as MPs.

So the end result is what seems like a very minor tweak to the Westminster system produces one party rule. Also the PAP was lead by Lee Kwan Yew who was effectively King and then a brief regency by Goh Chok Tong until Lee's son Lee Hsien Loong was old enough to take over as King.

It's easy to imagine an authoritarian system where companies rig the vote, the media tells you it didn't happen and then those companies sue anyone who claimed it did, bankrupting them. After a while people will realize that criticizing the rigged elections is ruinous and stop doing it, rather like in Singapore it's futile to criticize PAP politicians.

Having said all that Singapore is lot better run than China and probably the US. The PAP basically runs it like a big corporation. However I'm not convinced the Democrats would produce a long period of deregulated capitalism in the US like PAP did in Singapore. In fact they'd do almost the opposite.

The Lees may be tyrants but they understand economics. They also seem to have sense of noblesse obligé. Needless to say most authoritarian systems aren't run by people like this.

The US is largely run by worthless born out of their mothers' asshole lawyers.
Most Asian countries are run by engineers who actually build things. Add to that they actually buy into things like Singapore banning chewing gum because it increases litter when in San Francisco you can literally shovel the human feces off the sidewalks.

America sure as fuck isn't the favored 21st century nation unlike the 20th.
We got lazy and decadent.

Reminds me of the saying that societies rise in iron boots and collapse in silk slippers.
That and hard times > strong men, strong men > good times, good times > weak men, weak men > hard times, repeat.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Weird how Trump also supported putting Fields in prison for hundreds of years for being attacked by antifa. It's almost like they're on the same side...

You can at least make the argument on this exact sample that Trump was ill-informed or didn't want to defend someone from the unite the right rally as it looks like supporting "White supremacy." You can gain optics in that regard. What exactly or what kind of optics did Biden get from calling Antifa courageous or police taking explosions to the face while letting them run rampant? Keep in mind by the time Biden said those remarks Antifa already was labeled domestic terrorist in quite a few states if not the entirety. Sure I guess you can argue the catch all dementia, but my point was more that moderate democrats ARE supporting Antifa, where in quite a few pages back some were claiming the opposite when that's entirely not true. Moderates are encouraging extremist of the left, then pretending to distance themselves from it. At least in your case sample Trump actually did distance from what he perceived as the extreme right. Whether it was a bad move or not or justified or not.

 

[L50LasPak]

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Damn we should have asked for more.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I really tire of how prevalent this attitude has become during this shit show:

Of course you have. Time to go back to your distractions and forget all about how badly the elite just assfucked a pillar of our nation right into the dirt, right? That'll show 'em.

Can you name even 5 reasons why you voted beyond "I just don't like Kamala and Joe is meh," do you think? This reads like pure defacto low information voting.

So you do care about the system not being riddled with corruption? Yet you've supposedly stopped caring, too? What sort of mental gymnastics does that take, exactly?

This fucking attitude right here is why they'll get away with this shit the next time, and the next...and the next. This bullshit reads like someone complaining about "adulting" or some other manchild cringe shit. Maybe you and people who share this general opinion on the matter need to have politics shoved in your face every single day until you realize how important this shit is and that you have got to start caring more about it.

Of course it sucks, of course it'll drag you down, of course it stresses you out. Part of being an adult who gets to live in a healthy society is dealing with it, cause otherwise it'll only get worse from here.

Sure.
1. I have a job with shitty hours and I’m a full time student. I’m more concerned with my living situation right now, it’s priorities.
2. One, I generally lean Red, but that’s not really a huge reason anyways. Two, without PLing Obama fucked over some family real bad with his policies and I don’t want Joe to do the same. Three, I would rather immigration be handled slightly more strictly for various reasons, mainly that I know how hard it can be to find a first job for a normal citizen. Four, The Laptop. Mainly how it was handled by the media. That whole scandal is mainly just the tip of the iceberg for why I don’t like the current state of news. Five, life was actually going great until the apocalypse. And even then, it was our governor who locked us down without regard to every other aspect of life besides sickness. And bonus Six, he makes people like you sperg out and it’s funny.
3. Yes, I do care. But I don’t really care much who won. If by some miracle it went to the Supreme Court and it turns out Biden still won without a shadow of a doubt, at least then we would know for sure. But as it stands I do think Biden won, but I also think our system needs to be more airtight. You can think two things at once, it’s not that hard.
4. See part one. I do my politics and such on my days off, when I’m not burned out from work and nodding off into my dinner. But the last thing I want to come home to after work is the tv screaming about who’s evil today. I do do my research, but I have a lot of other things to do to keep my life moving. Do you know how nice it would be, being able to just read about politics and stuff all day? That’s the dream, my nigga. But I can’t. It’s called ‘being an adult’, you have shit to do.
5. The biggest thing you can change is your immediate surroundings, and your ability to change anything else decreases exponentially. With the big brained comment we both wrote, we haven’t changed anything about the current state of affairs. That’s why I’m doing my work, doing my school, and trying to keep what’s immediately in front of me going like it should. Maybe that’s a skewed philosophy, but that’s what I’ve got.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Alpha Karen made a claim about witnessing election fraud under the umbrella of that company. If that turns out to be falsified testimony, the victims of this libel are entitled to dragging her ass to court. Full stop.

We already established that standing is way too arcane of a concept to grasp.

Now you're telling me that I can't go around accusing McDonalds, apropos of nothing, of donating generously to Stormfront on national television and in sworn affidavits?
I hope you don't expect me to have any knowledge of case law regarding libel/slander and "public figures," because I'm no rocket scientist here.
Just a simple man who is curiously omniscient about electoral fraud.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

It's funny how some here have forgotten the obvious fraud evidence that was put out there, but dismissed due to corrupt judges who are in the pockets of the Democrats.

 

[Terrifik]

Like clock work

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It's funny how some here have forgotten the obvious fraud evidence that was put out there, but dismissed due to corrupt judges who are in the pockets of the Democrats.

Yeah, what evidence is that? Do you mean MAGAKaren's testimony, that somehow she was an election IT expert despite being hired to clean the voting machines?

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

It's funny how some here have forgotten the obvious fraud evidence that was put out there, but dismissed due to corrupt judges who are in the pockets of the Democrats.

It's funny how some here don't understand what the appeals process is or does to the point where they have convinced themselves that every single judge who comprehends what laches are is in the pocket of the Demonrats, including the ones appointed by the Trump administration who have been lifelong Republicans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay

Hearsay

www.law.cornell.edu

c'mon guys please just read it once, just once, pwetty pwease.