Insurrection 2021

[HumanHive]

I think you overestimate the intelligence of the Dem rank and file, honestly.

This is a well executed and highly motivated political machine. They are not unknown in American politics, and are arguably common enough.

Tammany Hall - Wikipedia

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The sad thing is that most Americans don't understand how the sausage is made when it comes to elections and just think everything is completely innocent and noble. In truth, voters predominantly care about whether there's a D or an R next to the candidate's name, the votes are counted by pretty zealous political activist groups from both sides of the aisle and they are the ones who determine whether ballots are counted or discarded, and the election laws which are violated are extremely difficult to prove in court unless it's extremely blatant. And this isn't just 2020, this is every election since forever.

 

[make_it_so]

I noticed how the estimated % of votes counted in DeKalb keeps dropping. Lol, gotta find some way to pad the numbers for all the votes they magically find for Osseff I guess.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Are you guys really arguing with 3 means 1?

 

[CrippleThreat]

They need to "find" 4000 more ballots in order to push Perdue out. Not even fraud happens by magic.

Find? Haven't they already prepared another Dekalb dump to push Ossoff up, like they did Warnock?

 

[X Prime]

This is a well executed and highly motivated political machine. They are not unknown in American politics, and are arguably common enough.

That's quite true, but aren't most of the more famous political machines Democratic, due to the city concentration?

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Man if there is this many burst pipes i am in the wrong profession, fuck sitting in a lab all day ill become a plumber.

Plumbers actually make a lot of money iirc.

 

[Meat Target]

That's quite true, but aren't most of the more famous political machines Democratic, due to the city concentration?

The Democratic Party is now using The Wire as a one-size-fits-all form of governance.

 

[HumanHive]

That's quite true, but aren't most of the more famous political machines Democratic, due to the city concentration?

Here's the dirty secret:
Fraud machines go undetected until they get too big to hide much longer. Guess where that usually happens? Democrat held urban areas.
Look at Florida and notice how that's mysteriously moving away from being a swing state, despite being a similar target of interstat-migration like TX, AZ, and GA. Why is that? Hmmmm, maybe its because the Republicans built a political machine of their own there after the 2000 race and structured election laws such that ensure Democrats are at a disadvantage.

The whole system is corrupt. All of it. Top to bottom election fraud. It's not omnipresent and happening all the time, but everything is set up so that more often than not the "right" candidates make it and the "wrong" candidates never make it past the primary. You think removing the establishment republicans is going to happen in 2022? Think again. Two years from now, the GOP will have reoriented themselves away from Trump - no matter how many people they alienate in doing so - because Trump isn't well liked by politicians, their staff, or donors. That's who's vote counts in this country. Not the vote of the serfs, the votes of the political class.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This is a well executed and highly motivated political machine. They are not unknown in American politics, and are arguably common enough.

Tammany Hall - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The sad thing is that most Americans don't understand how the sausage is made when it comes to elections and just think everything is completely innocent and noble. The sad reality is that voters predominantly care about whether there's a D or an R next to the candidate's name, the votes are counted by pretty zealous political activist groups from both sides of the aisle and they are the ones who determine whether ballots are counted or discarded, and the election laws which are violated are extremely difficult to prove in court unless it's extremely blatant. And this isn't just 2020, this is every election since forever.

The way you put this, along with all the stuff with 2020 and Corona, it paints a bleak picture, like all that’s left is to wait to see is if the future is a progressive utopia or the Chinese government coming in and exerting their force even more than what they’re alleged to do.

 

[Anya15]

Get used to it. This is American politics from now on.

And wonder turtle could of stop this if not for him being an exceptional retard. Like every fucking politician knew what the right answer was as far the 2000$ goes, it was unanimous!

But nope! Rather than thinking of the bigger picture, Mc Connell just says fuck it & wants to go down the ship so to speak. As far as cheating goes, i’m in the middle on it & don't believe that these elections where 100% honest. But I do know the motivations as to why the steal could of happen: it comes down to politicians saving themselves. throwing trump out was to send a message that they are still in control & even if the ordinary man gets power, it won’t last.

The senate? This is their last chance at resolving the will of the people peacefully. If they don't do it & shit continues to get worst, than- well, we all know what happens when a nation’s people is back into a corner, revolution & guillotines. We’re in a powder keg & it's been very close to blowing. On one final note? God help the turtle if trump makes his own party, 2022 is gonna be interesting if that happens.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Here's the dirty secret:
Fraud machines go undetected until they get too big to hide much longer. Guess where that usually happens? Democrat held urban areas.
Look at Florida and notice how that's mysteriously moving away from being a swing state, despite being a similar target of interstat-migration like TX, AZ, and GA. Why is that? Hmmmm, maybe its because the Republicans built a political machine of their own there after the 2000 race and structured election laws such that ensure Democrats are at a disadvantage.

The whole system is corrupt. All of it. Top to bottom election fraud. It's not omnipresent and happening all the time, but everything is set up so that more often than not the "right" candidates make it and the "wrong" candidates never make it past the primary. You think removing the establishment republicans is going to happen in 2022? Think again. Two years from now, the GOP will have reoriented themselves away from Trump - no matter how many people they alienate in doing so - because Trump isn't well liked by politicians, their staff, or donors. That's who's vote counts in this country. Not the vote of the serfs, the votes of the political class.

How long before the machine is the CCP putting in their puppets and agents and plants in a more direct way? We already owe them a trillion and we’ve outsourced every possible factory job to them, or at least the ones that haven’t been shipped to the likes of Mexico.

 

[Taco]

Oh would you look at that, both leads are gone.

Wow that's crazy this would only make sense if somehow there areas with the most votes to count also voted overwhelming Democrat in every election ever.

 

[X Prime]

Here's the dirty secret:
Fraud machines go undetected until they get too big to hide much longer. Guess where that usually happens? Democrat held urban areas.
Look at Florida and notice how that's mysteriously moving away from being a swing state, despite being a similar target of interstat-migration like TX, AZ, and GA. Why is that? Hmmmm, maybe its because the Republicans built a political machine of their own there after the 2000 race and structured election laws such that ensure Democrats are at a disadvantage.

I mean yes, you're right on all counts, but I wouldn't count out how everyone thought Broward County in Florida was going to pull shenanigans for Dems and actually watched it.

 

[HumanHive]

The way you put this, along with all the stuff with 2020 and Corona, it paints a bleak picture, like all that’s left is to wait to see is if the future is a progressive utopia or the Chinese government coming in and exerting their force even more than what they’re alleged to do.

You're getting a little of column A, a little of column B. America and Europe are going full managed decline while China embraces interstellar colonization and resource collection to ensure its grip on Humanity's future.
I think the only thing that can stop this is a nuclear war with India, which is about as likely as a war between USA and USSR in the Cold War (read: almost 0%), or alternatively a major disaster in space that sours China on lunar colonization.

Think I'm wrong? Read what the predictions on what Biden is going to do with NASA and the Space Force during his term. That moon mission in 2025 or whatever? It's cancelled. "Sorry, it was either a wasteful moon colony, or a universal living wage." It's like the Great Society happened only without JFK's death ensuring NASA went to the moon. This is going to be an absolute waste of a decade as far as America and Europe are concerned.

 

[Mr. Bung]

Trump isn't well liked by politicians, their staff, or donors. That's who's vote counts in this country. Not the vote of the serfs, the votes of the political class.

Just like in every other place in the world, since forever.

 

[Cliff Booth]

The same people who want to do hand writing analysis on every signature and have a partisan observer leering over every vote counters' shoulder also complain about the time it takes to count the votes. Rly makes u think....

 

[HumanHive]

The same people who want to do hand writing analysis on every signature and have a partisan observer leering over every vote counters' shoulder also complain about the time it takes to count the votes. Rly makes u think....

They're going home, not doing any analysis of anything.

And wonder turtle could of stop this if not for him being an exceptional retard. Like every fucking politician knew what the right answer was as far the 2000$ goes, it was unanimous!

But nope! Rather than thinking of the bigger picture, Mc Connell just says fuck it & wants to go down the ship so to speak. As far as cheating goes, i’m in the middle on it & don't believe that these elections where 100% honest. But I do know the motivations as to why the steal could of happen: it comes down to politicians saving themselves. throwing trump out was to send a message that they are still in control & even if the ordinary man gets power, it won’t last.

The senate? This is their last chance at resolving the will of the people peacefully. If they don't do it & shit continues to get worst, than- well, we all know what happens when a nation’s people is back into a corner, revolution & guillotines. We’re in a powder keg & it's been very close to blowing. On one final note? God help the turtle if trump makes his own party, 2022 is gonna be interesting if that happens.

A revolution funded and led by who exactly? The military isn't going to fight for Republicans. Their meal ticket is with the federal government, not the states.

 

[Spiteful Crow]

I feel your pain man

Washington DC

 

[Random Internet Person]

You're getting a little of column A, a little of column B. America and Europe are going full managed decline while China embraces interstellar colonization and resource collection to ensure its grip on Humanity's future.
I think the only thing that can stop this is a nuclear war with India, which is about as likely as a war between USA and USSR in the Cold War (read: almost 0%), or alternatively a major disaster in space that sours China on lunar colonization.

Think I'm wrong? Read what the predictions on what Biden is going to do with NASA and the Space Force during his term. That moon mission in 2025 or whatever? It's cancelled. "Sorry, it was either a wasteful moon colony, or a universal living wage." It's like the Great Society happened only without JFK's death ensuring NASA went to the moon. This is going to be an absolute waste of a decade as far as America and Europe are concerned.

So if you’re an optimist or even slightly right wing, it seems the only options are to boot up Minecraft and 1. Learn Mandarin or 2. Eat lead. Trillion dollar debt seems to just be the start apparently.

The question becomes, “How long before the flames consume me?”

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I feel your pain man

Washington DC

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He's one of the good ones.