Maybe not "disrespect", but being ready to respect yourself and draw lines in the sand based on things you know you want.
You might be being flippant, but if you're not being 100% flippant, I'm curious about this idea as you conceive it.
On a side note, I didn't even realize the comment you were responding to existed, and after reading it, I'm kind of baffled at how irrelevant and unmoored it is and miss five minutes ago when I was ignorant of it.
I wasn't being flippant and I meant what I wrote.
Of course there are exceptions, but on the whole women want a partner that is better than themselves (not that most will really admit it). At some level they want someone to submit to.
Men that are or act arrogant have an edge for that reason. It's the one thing I find most tiresome about chatting up women. So yes mild disrespect.
On the whole my experience is that women don't really know what they're saying on a lot of subjects. That is fine, neither do I. But that includes when they talk about what they like, what they don't like and what their limits are. It's never without risk of course so heed this advice at your own peril. But I don't think any of the women I've taken to bed could accurately tell me what they like and what they don't. I'm not proud of it, but it's not a small sample size.
To give a small selection of experiences,
* I've known a woman that thought she was really tough, but she just needed to be treated softly and gently, because it was all exterior. So while she might be rough, she desired someone that was just unfazed by her sharp tongue and physical aggression.
* I've known a woman that thought she was fiercely sexual, but was at heart very frigid. She had come onto me strong a couple of times, but it wasn't until we had sex, and not so succesfully, that we started talking about it and she described her sexual experiences of hardly ever getting wet. She had one really good experience in her past and when she described it, it was basicly her describing what would legally be rape by her coworker. At the time I found the thing too risky to continue and broke things off soon after rather than confirm my theory about her, so I'm not 100% sure.
* There have been more than one that weren't very verbal (I am a very physical person engaged in a number of physical activities, like martials arts, dancing, massage, so have met women eho connect on that rather than talking). None of them could directly describe what they liked, but all responded sexually to me describing what I liked (once we had already gotten involved, of course).
* there have been a couple of women that were really sexually adventurous and had done a lot of self-exploration. They have a better understanding of what they like and don't like, and that is even riskier, because it's like having a very good map that might have some major errors (that you miss because some parts of the map are so good). They might think they're bi, when they're not, they might think they want to be promiscuous when that is making them more unhappy than anything else.
I haven't dated men, so maybe the reverse is true as well. I certainly have had no shortage of women trying to disrespect me, but I don't put up with it. I'll either spend my attention at someone less shrewd or just blast through it and get to the woman under the exterior and tell her how badly she is behaving. See? That's what I mean. Why should I as an adult explain to another adult why they're behaving like a child? Women usually respond positively to it when you do it gently and from a position of strength (willing to walk away). I say gently, but that really depends on her sensitivity level and that too is something she will not be able to explain herself. I almost want to say that the signals are always wrong, but that implied they would tell you something directly and you'd just act like it's opposite day or something. Oh yeah that reminds me of two others.
* some women are very gentle and this might give you the idea that they want to be treated gently, but what they really want is a kind of schoolyard bully that treats them kind of badly, because despite being sensitive they have a very high tolerance for pain and disrespect.
* I've also met one that is very gentle and als said she was very gentle and she just absolutely broke when treated anything but gently, so it isn't without risk to disregard boundaries either.
I find it important to listen to a woman's experiences but keep in mind to listen not to what she says, but what she describes. Her feelings are much more important and accurate than her conclusions in regards to her experiences.
I really feel for people with autism because they lack the sense that helps them read women, because on the whole women are really bad at explaining themselves.
How can I respect adults that I seem to understand better than they understand themselves? This isn't an intelligence thing either, I've dated at least two women I'm convinced would be more intelligent than me across the board. They ended up teaching me a lot about themselves. The first of the two made me realize how important it is to maintain that mild disrespect, because when I openly accepted her advice she became too arrogant (and as a result unhappy), because she thought it made her better than me (and women want someone better than themselves). Of course women never admit this (except maybe in bed, but then they'll admit anything, even things that aren't true), which proves yet again that they can't be trusted at saying what they like.
It's what makes online interaction with women so tiresome and why I don't text or chat generally with women that I don't know. It's like trying to sail without having a sense of which way the wind is blowing. For the periods where I used dating sites to meet women (not a big fan), I never really chatted much. I said what I liked about her, suggested a date while making clear there was some leeway and then make one or two conversation starters so she can slow things down a little but more importantly feel like there's space for her to slow things down. The day before/of the date I made sure to text a bit, because women get more nervous than men and she needs to be reassured basicly. Without doing that you waste a lot of time getting stood up. I guess it's also a kind of foreplay to the date. It's not just be reassuring, it's also throwing up a ball or two and saying one or two things where she can't be sure exactly what you mean; things to make her curious. If it was writing a book, it would be the one or two hooks to get people turning the page. It may sound gimmicky, but it works.
This whole thing reminds me of that old adage: "You can either understand women or love women, but not both". There is a truth in that. Though I think you can still love something without taking their words too seriously.
I think when you really break it down, women just respond strongly to being disrespected. It focuses a woman's attention on you, which depending on what she's like might be positive (if she's an appeaser) or negative (if she thinks she's tough). As a sidenote you don't really see the appeasers online in forums because they avoid confrontation so they either just lurk or just don't say what they disagree with, which is why women you do discuss eith online are invariably insufferable.
A negative response in person is fine, even great, because now she'll try to tear you down and then when she discovers she can't affect you the way you affect her, she realizes at a base animal level that you're stronger and better than her and she'll be subscribing to your dick in no time.
Inexperienced men might be so swept of their feet by the sexual experience that they forget that women in bed have more desire to be disrespected even than th is outside it. This how sometimes women reclaim the power through sex and it tends to make both miserable pretty quickly.
I've known one guy who related his first sexual experience of a woman pointing out his nervousness and he didn't admit it and said "it's because you're exciting me". He was kind of a natural at understanding women. It took me mistakes to learn. He knew to retain the initiative from the get go.
I feel it's kinda sleazy talking about all this and it's easily misinterpreted because it's bad advice to say "disrespect women", but just keep in mind that it's worse advice when someone says "respect women".
