AAers are way worse than former smokers. Some of those niggers have been sober for like a month and they will smugly go on about how stupid and brainwashed everyone is for drinking alcohol and how you have to be a literal retard to drink it, as they sit there miserably drinking their Topo Chico (chosen because it comes in a beer style bottle of course).
Don't even get me started on the people who have been sober for a long time but still go to an AA meeting multiple times a week. That's some insane shit and alcohol still controls your life even when you don't get any of the fun parts. What I guess I'm saying is shawn is gay and he thinks about this thread all day even when he's taking a break from it.
12-step programs are bullshit in the first place. There's some (limited) value in self-organized support groups to lean on each other while dealing with the same kind of problem, but pomp, trinkets and rituals aside a 12-step program at its core is little more than a loosely-organized group confession, peer pressure and ass-patting party.
There's rarely (if ever) a qualified (i.e. educated/credentialed and licensed) person in charge (or even attending the meetings), a good number of the much-vaunted 12 steps involve boo-hoo'ing about how you're powerless to help yourself and how you simply
must surrender to some higher authority for help and a couple steps are potentially very destructive (the "apologize to / make amends with the people you've hurt" bits -- those people may very well not want you showing up at all, good intentions or not, and seeing you might cause them more grief). There's also no "exit strategy" -- there's a sort of unspoken assumption that once you join a 12-step group, you're in for life. Not to mention the morale-killing factor you get from sitting in a room together with a group of sad/miserable people sharing a common problem.
Nobody's ever been able to show that participation in a 12-step program improves someone's chances of actually correcting their problem either; in particular AA has been repeatedly shown to have absolutely no bearing on relapse or recidivism whatsoever; statistically speaking, it's just as effective at treating alcoholism as
literally doing nothing at all.
Someone once suggested I attend a "codependents anonymous" group shortly after a breakup because I was sad about it. They meant well, but I couldn't help but laugh. "I'm not codependent, and even if I were, why on earth would I want to hang out with other people
who are also codependent when I'm vulnerable and susceptible to forming codependent relationships?"
Of course if you're cynical and unscrupulous, there
are 12-step programs for nymphomaniacs and other similarly promiscuous people if you're just trawling for an easy lay. Though at that point you're venturing into "never stick your dick in crazy" territory. Boiled rabbit, anyone?
LMFAO BEC JUST CRASHED THE RV BECAUSE SHE GOT UP TO PRESS CASEY AND DIDNT PUT IT IN PARK
>I put it in park.
>Oh yeah that doesn't work.
>Well fuckin' A, I kinda needed to know that!
lol ... she screwed up by not making sure the vehicle wasn't moving before she let go of the controls, but she
does have a point. They should have let her know. Also, her reaction to that news (and the crash itself) was priceless. 10/10, would watch her wreck an RV again.
He also claims that he is a professional blackjack player but in the early days of the vegas compound, he was actually sober and didnt make any donos so he went to the blackjack tables. Fast forward a week or two and he is passed out on the floor pissing the rug every night because he can only make money drinking for donos
lol casinos fucking
love "professional blackjack players." They're some of the most profitable gamblers in the house and they'll bend over backwards to get them in the door to play at their tables. Yes, card counting is still legal (if you're not using any electronic or mechanical assistance to do it) but for one thing they can still ban you if they think you're doing it and for another, with 6- or 8- deck shoes and auto-shuffling machines being standard now on most blackjack tables, counting cards isn't really feasible anymore.
