IRS To Lay Off Thousands Of Workers - Thousands of Feds BTFO

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IRS will lay off thousands of probationary workers in the middle of tax season

The IRS will lay off thousands of probationary workers in the middle of tax season, according to two sources familiar with the agency’s plans, and cuts could happen as soon as next week.

This comes as the Trump administration intensified sweeping efforts to shrink the size of the federal workforce, by ordering agencies to lay off nearly all probationary employees who had not yet gained civil service protection.

It’s unclear how many IRS workers will be affected.

Previously, the administration announced a plan to offer buyouts to almost all federal employees through a “deferred resignation program” to quickly reduce the government workforce. The program deadline was Feb. 6, and administration officials said employees who accept will be able to stop working while still collecting a paycheck until Sept. 30.

However, IRS employees involved in the 2025 tax season were told they will not be allowed to accept a buyout offer from the Trump administration until after the taxpayer filing deadline, according to a letter sent recently to IRS employees.

It is unclear how many workers will be impacted by the layoff announcement plan. Representatives from the U.S. Treasury and IRS did not respond to Associated Press requests for comment.


Jan. 27 was the official start date of the 2025 tax season, and the IRS expects more than 140 million tax returns to be filed by the April 15 deadline. The Biden administration invested heavily in the IRS through an $80 billion infusion of funds in Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act, which included plans to hire tens of thousands of new employees to help with customer service and enforcement as well as new technology to update the tax collection agency.



Republicans have been successful at clawing back that money, and billionaire Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency have called for the U.S. to “delete entire agencies” from the federal government as part of his to radically cut spending and restructure its priorities.

Elected officials are trying to fight against DOGE plans. Attorneys general from 14 states challenged the authority of to access sensitive government data and exercise “virtually unchecked power” in a lawsuit filed Thursday.


The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Washington, says the actions taken by Musk at the helm of DOGE can only be taken by a nominated and Senate-confirmed official. It cites constitutional provisions that delineate the powers of Congress and the president.



Good riddance.
 
Got sticker shock doing my taxes tonight because I forgot to ask my new employer to take more withholding out. Seeing everyone else talk big about the big ticket items they're getting with their refunds while you have to pay in is like hearing all of the hens talking about their plans for prom while you can't get a date. Anyone who can put an end to this tortuous process is a hero in my book.
 
It has happened:

The Hill | IRS lays off 6,700 employees, torpedoing Democratic enforcement boost​


02/20/25 2:02 PM ET

Tobias Burns and Kevin Bohn

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The IRS fired 6,700 employees Thursday, a government official told NewsNation, the sister television network of The Hill.

The employees were designated as probationary, meaning they were working for the agency on a trial basis prior to becoming full staff members.

More than 5,000 of the fired staff members were auditors and collection staff dealing with tax compliance issues, the official told NewsNation.

The Treasury Department and IRS did not respond to questions from The Hill regarding the specifics of the firings.

But Kevin Hassett, chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, told reporters at the White House on Thursday that the decision was motivated by government efficiency concerns.

“I think our objective is to make sure that the employees that we pay are being productive and effective. And there are, many, more than 100,000 people working to collect taxes. And not all of them are fully occupied. And the Treasury secretary is studying the matter and feels like 3,500 is a small number, and probably you can get bigger as we improve the IT at the IRS,” Hassett said.

Republicans have been gunning for the IRS since Democrats gave the agency an $80 billion funding boost in 2022 as part of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).

As soon as they took control of the House in 2023, Republicans voted to rescind the funding in a measure that didn’t make it through the Senate, which was then controlled by Democrats.

But Republicans were still able to claw back a quarter of the IRA funds through appropriations fights over the course of 2023 and 2024.

They also managed to freeze an additional $20.2 billion of the funding boost allotted specifically for increased audits, effectively torpedoing Democrats’ goal of increasing enforcement on the wealthy and corporations.

The 5,000 fired compliance staff lines up closely with the number of new auditors the agency had hired with the IRA money for increased enforcement.

The IRS hired 495 tax enforcement personnel in fiscal 2023 and 4,088 enforcement personnel in fiscal 2024 for a total 4,583 new agents, so firings result in more than 400 fewer auditors than before the IRA passed.

After mistakenly being granted access to sensitive Treasury Department payment systems earlier this year, officials from the so-called Department of Government Efficiency were reported to be gaining access to the IRS in recent days, raising concerns about having access to sensitive networks and huge amounts of private taxpayer data.

One Congressional Republican aide told The Hill that IRS officials aren’t concerned about protecting taxpayer information, but maintaining their turf.

There are “tons of internal problems with how the IRS agency leadership determines who can and cannot have access,” the aide said.

Democrats blasted the firings on Thursday.

“In the middle of tax season, under the deceitful guise of ‘efficiency,’ the President and his reckless billionaire Cabinet are purging the agency responsible for processing Americans’ returns, issuing timely refunds, and holding wealthy tax cheats accountable. This isn’t about efficiency; it’s about giving a free pass for the Administration’s rich friends,” House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Richard Neal (D-Mass.) said in a statement.

Professionals in the tax world also criticized the layoffs, calling them “misguided.”

“These misguided layoffs will hurt everyday Americans who pay their taxes and count on the IRS to pay refunds on time while encouraging wealthy people and large businesses to cheat on their taxes,” Chye-Ching Huang, director of the NYU School of Law Tax Law Center, said in an email to The Hill.

Some IRS staff appeared to take to social media this week to voice their frustrations.

“If you are in collections or something like that, I would expect to get terminated this coming week,” a Reddit user posted to the social media site’s “govfire” channel Sunday. The user described themself as “a 21-year employee with the IRS.”

Another user said IRS employees who answer phones in the taxpayer services department wouldn’t be let go in the middle of tax season.

“We were told in a meeting at work, those of us in Taxpayer Services are ‘essential’ until May 15th, and would have to work through a government shutdown,” one Reddit user wrote Sunday.

Treasury Department employees in the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU) also voiced their concerns about being fired this week.

“You’re not alone in this,” Shannon Ellis, president of the NTEU’s chapter 66 in the Kansas City area, said in a social media post about the firings. “I know it feels that way, but we’re there. We’re there with you.”

Updated at 3:16 p.m. EST.



The New York Times | I.R.S. Fires 6,700 Employees Amid Tax Filing Season​

The layoffs at the Internal Revenue Service came alongside additional firings at the Transportation Security Administration and the C.I.A.​


Feb. 20, 2025 Updated 5:43 p.m. ET

Alan Rappeport and Andrew Duehren (Reporting from Washington)

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The Trump administration started firing about 6,700 employees at the Internal Revenue Service on Thursday, according to people familiar with the matter, extending its cost-cutting measures to the federal agency responsible for collecting tax revenue from millions of Americans.

The job cuts at the I.R.S. are hitting probationary employees who were recently hired around the country. More than 5,000 of those workers are part of the agency’s compliance teams, which deal with auditing and collections. The layoffs are coming a week during tax filing season, when the I.R.S. will be inundated with paperwork and questions from taxpayers.

The I.R.S. employs about 100,000 accountants, lawyers and other staff across the country. The Biden administration was in the process of beefing up enforcement and modernizing the agency with an $80 billion investment, but President Trump wants to curb its powers and has dispatched Elon Musk and his so-called Department of Government Efficiency to scrutinize its computer systems.

A spokeswoman for the I.R.S. declined to provide an exact number for the layoffs, which some people familiar with the matter could be as low as 6,000 or as high as 7,000. The people were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the situation.

Kevin Hassett, the director of the White House’s National Economic Council, said on Thursday that the layoffs are “absolutely on the table for good reasons” and that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent believes that the agency could afford to lose more than 3,500 people.

Asked if the I.R.S. employees were being let go because of poor performance, Mr. Hassett said, “Our objective is to make sure that the employees that we pay are being productive and effective and there are more than 100,000 people working to collect taxes and not all of them are fully occupied.”

The Commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick, said on Fox News on Wednesday that Mr. Trump wants to replace the I.R.S. with an “External Revenue Service” that would be funded by tariff revenue.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Mr. Lutnick said.

The Treasury had no comment about the job cuts.

In emails sent on Wednesday, I.R.S. managers told employees targeted for layoffs that they were not considered critical to filing season, the annual period when millions of Americans prepare their taxes. Still, the large layoff before the spring tax deadline has concerned some tax experts and Democrats that the I.R.S. could have trouble processing tax returns this year.

The National Treasury Employees Union, which represents I.R.S. workers, assailed the layoff as a critical mistake by the Trump administration. The labor group called the firings “arbitrary and unlawful.”

“Indiscriminate firings of I.R.S. employees around the country are a recipe for economic disaster,” said Doreen Greenwald, president of N.T.E.U. National. “In the middle of a tax filing season, when taxpayers expect prompt customer service and smooth processing of their tax returns, the administration has chosen to decimate the whole operation by sending dedicated civil servants to the unemployment lines.”

The firings at the I.R.S. are expected to hit recent hires of employees focused on the agency’s enforcement efforts. The tax agency has been trying to hire more lawyers and accountants who can audit wealthy Americans and large corporations to collect more of the tax that they owe. The I.R.S. estimates that roughly $600 billion in owed taxes go uncollected each year.

“These misguided layoffs will hurt everyday Americans who pay their taxes and count on the I.R.S. to pay refunds on time while encouraging wealthy people and large businesses to cheat on their taxes,” said Chye-Ching Huang, executive director of the Tax Law Center at New York University.
Mr. Hassett said that the I.R.S. was just a “small part” of the Trump administration’s plan to fire workers who were viewed as poor performers.

“I live in D.C.,” Mr. Hassett said. “Nobody’s going into the buildings, people aren’t commuting because people aren’t doing their jobs.”
“We’re fixing that and the I.R.S. is a small part of that picture.”

That was clear on Thursday, as firings continued across the federal government.

The Trump administration fired 243 probationary employees at the Transportation Security Administration, the agency confirmed on Thursday.
Those let go included T.S.A. officers and other administrative staff. Despite the cuts, the agency said, it is continuing to hire mission-critical positions.

T.S.A., which is part of the Homeland Security Department, was formed after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Congress has charged the agency with protecting the nation’s transportation systems.

“Under President Trump’s leadership, T.S.A. terminated personnel due to performance and conduct issues during their probationary period,” Carter Langston, a spokesman for the agency, said in a statement. “The agency is actively working to implement the administration’s priorities in full cooperation with D.H.S. to identify waste and to staff the mission essential positions that best fulfill D.H.S.’ mission.”

The C.I.A. also moved to dismiss an unspecified number of officers who were working on recruiting and diversity issues, according to former officials. A federal judge has halted those actions and will hold a hearing on Monday on whether the C.I.A. can proceed with the dismissals, which would be the largest mass firing since 1977.
 
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Here’s my idea - Barron, you can give it to Trump I don’t need credit.

Add a double or nothing option to returns. You can self-certify that there’s no fuckery, and if audited and fraud (not mistake) is caught, every penalty is doubled.

Then you can barely audit those returns at all 😘
 

Wonder how many people's tax returns will be fucked up by angry probational IRS employees. "This guy owes $3000? Fuck that, give him a $5000 refund!"
If anything? It'll go the other way.


"Try and downsize us? Well, OOOPS! You now owe $5,000......... maybe we wouldn't have made that "mistake" if you hadn't tried to call our competency into question!"

The Administratum is infested with leftist fanatics, not rightist jobsmiths.
 
The IRS fired 6,700 employees ... The employees were designated as probationary, meaning they were working for the agency on a trial basis prior to becoming full staff members.
Wait, so I'm assuming that being probationary, this means they were new hires. This would mean the IRS hired on 6.7k *new* employees? And I'm assuming that probationary is like a year max, rather than several years. That's more than enough people to create an entirely new agency -- hell, it might be enough to make multiple agencies. It dwarfs many businesses; only company that I could see hiring that many people in one year is maybe Google in it's COVID hay-day. Why the hell did the government hire on that many new people!?
 
Why the hell did the government hire on that many new people!?
They had to hire all those folks to make sure the taxes on stolen items, illegal sales and other crimes were accounted for. We all know Jose who slings meth and Jamal who slings fent are eagerly waiting to file
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You too? I had to go through that same crap with my employer since I moved. They taxed with the incorrect tax code or something.
At the Federal level, it's important to have an accurately filled out Form W-4 to be sure you get taxed in the proper bracket. For those part of a two-income family or having additional non-job income, it might be necessary to request extra withholding taken out of each paycheck to avoid quarterly estimates and/or an unexpected year-end tax bill. It may also be necessary to review your withholding each year to be sure it will be sufficient for the coming year.

The IRS has been catastrophically behind when it comes to anything but regular taxes for a while now. Like 'this paperwork was sent to us nine+ months ago, we haven't even looked at it yet' behind. Should be interesting seeing how this goes.
COVID and the IRS shutdown during that period of time really put them behind the 8-ball 🎱 in terms of processing returns. At one point documents were being stored in temporary trailers and - from what I recall - some documents weren't necessarily prepared in the proper order and some other documents ended up either lost or missing which really screwed up taxpayers that may have had zero issues with the IRS until that point. @BoobWhiskers is right that there were some cases where the IRS might admit to having received tax returns/paperwork only to not process them (and sometimes not knowing either where those documents are or when they might be processed).

I'm surprised the cuts are being made as tax season begins and not after April 15. However, calling and speaking to an agent is a roll of the dice. I can almost guarantee that anyone calling the IRS twice will get one call routed to an agent that simply doesn't give a shit about helping and does as little as possible to do so and the second call will go to someone who goes above and beyond to be helpful with no middle ground between those two extremes. If the people being cut are the ones that don't care, I'd find myself asking, "This is a bad thing how?"
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Wait, so I'm assuming that being probationary, this means they were new hires. This would mean the IRS hired on 6.7k *new* employees? And I'm assuming that probationary is like a year max, rather than several years. That's more than enough people to create an entirely new agency -- hell, it might be enough to make multiple agencies. It dwarfs many businesses; only company that I could see hiring that many people in one year is maybe Google in it's COVID hay-day. Why the hell did the government hire on that many new people!?
How else did you expect them to shakedown people for those $600 transactions? Those agents of the IRS were asked if they were fine carrying a firearm.
 
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I'd love Trump forever if he completely removed that den of Vultures. As for the Federal Reserve... well, that's going to require another Andrew Jackson.
Even if the ghost of Andrew Jackson possesses Trump, whomever really controlling the federal reserve will still try to kill Trump if he goes in alone or in a small group. Will need a verified loyalist heavily armed army coming with Trump to open federal reserve to count and check whatever gold that's still left in there.
 
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