Is being a "permavirgin" really a bad thing?

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Counterpoint: Nick Fuentes aspired to become Hitler 2 3 and 4, and we all know how that turned out.
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Well with that gaystache and that short stature, he would be polishing jackboots in the new Reich at best, and his fixation on cat-boys isn't like a Fuhrer at all. Everyone knows that a real Hitler like dog girls named Blondie.

But back on topic: my personal opinion is that being a perma virgin is much more preferable than riding the dick train or fly from pussy to pussy. Intercourse should be something special again, and not what you do with a passing stranger when its raining and you are bored. I do get however that hormones and urges are hard to control, but strangling the trouser snake or ringing the devils door-bell should suffice in times where the flesh is conquering the mind. Promiscuity is way too celebrated, and should be punishable by law again, as should adultery for that matter.
 
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yes, because you shouldn't let a retarded forced identity dictate your actions. being a sex haver in itself is not a virtue, nor is having kids. but you do have to get out there and experience shit. you can't expect to make informed decisions about your life without having any first-hand information. some things you can safely exclude, like yeah, you probably shouldn't try heroin, cause that's a hard one to take back, and it doesn't go anywhere good. but with relationships and sex, you have to go get fucked up and experience shit to really have a good read on things like what you want in a partner, what you want out of your relationship with other people, whether you want a family, all that kind of shit. log off and go outside, and stop obsessing over sex and lust as some kind of litmus test for your moral character.
 
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It is only a bad thing if you have no plans for suicide, and just keep living.

Your one single marker of objective success in this world comes down to whether or not you procreate. If you can't do that, stop breathing air.
 
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When the giant Aztec Sun Dragon God starts demanding, you'll be glad to have at least a few around.
 
Kankichi Ryotsu said:
There's nothing inherently "wrong" with it per se, but it's the consequence of other underlying issues. Sex is not the solution nor the end goal. Getting laid isn't going to suddenly make you less autistic and more confident as if it were magic.
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It's not?

Actually I'm plenty confident. I'm 100% confident in women not finding me attractive.
 
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not unless the individual makes it a problem by centering their identity around it
when people center their identity around it, it just becomes a repulsive trait and comes off as desperate i.e coomers as OP said, people obsessed with losing their virginity, etc.
there are other substantial and attractive contributions and activities in life that are not sexual
sex is becoming an obsession for a lot of western society especially, and the pressure that holds can be a lot
 
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Having never had intimate relations as an adult is bad for one's mental health and you can see it pretty clearly when you look at people who haven't gotten the chance.

It's not just about sex, it's about the validation of being wanted and the incredible confidence boost it provides.
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if they just make an effort to put themselves out there, keep themselves reasonably fit and don't act like complete spergs
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You're on an internet forum, this isn't a simple ask for most of the guys who are gonna read it lol.
 
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Bloitzhole said:
Nothing wrong with a dry spell, but if you don't have any kind of intimacy for MANY years, I would say that probably indicates you have some kind of deficit - physical, mental or social - because people tend to find someone they like enough to be intimate with if they just make an effort to put themselves out there, keep themselves reasonably fit and don't act like complete spergs.
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I disagree. The way you act around other people in general are better metrics for some sort of deficit being present. Finding true love is very difficult and if you are a hopeless romantic like me, then not engaging in the animalistic mating rituals of the hoi polloi (where there's constant backstabbing, underhanded tricks and all assortment of bullshittery afoot just for the sake of FEELING intimacy but giving as little love as possible) is a worthy sacrifice to find true love in this life or just not experience it. Shallow imitations of things never live up to the expectations, especially when it is something so greay that it can create new life and new love.

Plus, people.in this thread act like sex is the end all be all of human existence. It's retarded to argue it's not important, but we have the freewill to choose not only to contribute to the world, but how we do it. Some people choose to be celibate their entire lives to devote their lives to a mission like Jesus and Issac Newton.


I'm not going to disparage people that have sex as animalistic in and of themselves (I hate the way people try to attain that goal though admittedly and also the hyper-promiscuity prevalent today, but that's neither here nor there), but let's calm down with that. Sex with a woman you truly love and would die for is fun and it leads to more oppurtunities to love and live a happier life, but it's not the end of the world if you don't find that woman. Just find something else to do to build character.
 
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Some people choose to be celibate their entire lives to devote their lives to a mission like Jesus and Issac Newton.
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Whenever someone says this, it's massive cope. Most Perma-virgins, just simply aren't THAT. It's just like when people say "So what if I'm dumb, you know Albert Einstein failed tests before!" because they think it's some One-Up.

Issac Newton was a genius level intellect who probably had some Asexuality thing going on. As was many other cases of these famous/scientist/weirdo people. The common Perma-virgins are either the Autism type with highly hampered social functioning, or had severe trauma/abuse in their life caused by the opposite gender (or just people in general), that made them lock up and hide themselves away from the world... You also have Elliot Rodger snobbish types that are unable to lower their standards and HAVE to have the 10/10 Blonde trad waifu no matter what. (These are sadly common)

Also: Just because someone is attractive and even is willing to go for someone slightly less attractive than them, has a job, etc, doesn't mean they automatically are going to get laid. Crippling autism/trauma/other factors can prevent them from being able to break that barrier. Even if they do have sex, forming a meaningful relationship is highly unlikely. Thus so is having children.

Like I said earlier this is natural selection taking place, many men just never will breed/have sex. Probably shouldn't either. Not everyone deserves sex or love.
 
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We should be encouraging and finding ways for "perma-virgins", who otherwise have high general aptitude, and simply never learned to deal with women, to successfully deal with women so that their abilities stay in the gene pool.

It's really fun to say "muhfugga if you aint got no game den you dont desrve no legacy yeeet" or whatever -- the ecstasy of being an edgy teenager with a simple anarchy-based answer to everything. But if we just think a little harder on this, that concept is tantamount to hypergamy. And all hypergamy can produce is nigger societies with on-average 60 IQ members who fuck everything that moves, but stagnates technologically, culturally, and in all aspects of human development. There is a reason all successful highly ordered societies came out of cultures that ensured a large portion of its skilled and contributing members can procreate.
 
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cigint said:
We should be encouraging and finding ways for "perma-virgins", who otherwise have high general aptitude, and simply never learned to deal with women, to successfully deal with women so that their abilities stay in the gene pool.

It's really fun to say "muhfugga if you aint got no game den you dont desrve no legacy yeeet" or whatever -- the ecstasy of being an edgy teenager with a simple anarchy-based answer to everything. But if we just think a little harder on this, that concept is tantamount to hypergamy. And all hypergamy can produce is nigger societies with on-average 60 IQ members who fuck everything that moves, but stagnates technologically, culturally, and in all aspects of human development. There is a reason all successful highly ordered societies came out of cultures that ensured a large portion of its skilled and contributing members can procreate.
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It's generally true that smarter people have fewer, or no, children at all.

That's because we're smart enough not to want to bring children into a world filled with niggers.

Also, poor and ugly.
 
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skykiii said:
This topic could easily become a cope for people who can't get laid, but let's be serious for a few minutes.

First, we're all familiar with the concept of a "coomer" who is totally controlled by their hormones to the point that they'll buy shitty anime figurines just to look up the skirts.

Secondly, a lot of the dregs of society are people who are obsessed with sex to some degree and it leads them to ruin their lives and that of those around them (including whatever poor girl they happen to impregnate).

Sex may well be a wonderful thing but a lot of humanity can't control their lust and so end up ruining it.

As such, if someone goes years without getting laid, is that really a bad thing?

Frankly I've said before I would rather just live forever than pass on my genes and have a "legacy." Legacies don't count for shit. History is full of brilliant people whose descendants fucked their legacy (sometimes literally).

But maybe I'm missing something. So I'm open to thoughts.
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Being unable to find a sexual partner, for men and women, means there is something wrong with you, so yes it is a bad thing. Even religions that look down on promiscuity still encourage people to marry and have sex. No amount of coping is going to change how pathetic a thirty something virgin is.
 
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