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Yes, independent account. No specific mention of surgery though.
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zap2theextreme
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You underestimate how bad the therapy process for LGBT people has gotten in recent years. It's less about helping the patient and more about making them feel good. There are a lot of therapists (mostly the newer ones) who turn the process into an echo chamber, and if you're wise to it it's rather frustrating.
It doesn't surprise me at all that what's being told to CWC is ethically questionable. In my opinion, it's unethical to say anything other than "You can't realistically expect to land a lesbian lover, ever, or to successfully integrate as female with what you're currently doing."
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If he's seeing just a general therapist I'm more inclined to believe they're telling him this stuff. They're more than likely not trained in gender dysphoria, they're probably there to help him cope with life. One of Chris's biggest issues is self confidence so of course a therapist would try to boost that by telling him that he deserves happiness by getting the vagina he wants. They're probably not the best therapist but they're telling Chris what he wants to hear so of course he's gonna believe them.
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Katsu beat me to it and explained it wonderfully.
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Chris fell in line with the Zionist medias gender propaganda like a good little Goyim. Do you know what percentage of the media is run on Talmudic ideas? Chris is just one of many more poor souls who will fall victim to Zog control. The only way we can stop this is by voting in gentile men of principle. Folks wake up!
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So, instead of helping people that have poorer prospects in life because society views them as deviants, therapists are now just handing out asspats and perpetuating unhealthy egos and self-esteem. I understand that a lot of these people are ill because of the way that they have been treated, but lying only creates more problems after being confronted by reality. On top of blatantly lying to people, therapists are actually ushering severely unbalanced, aging, white men into the fold for a quick buck. It's just like everyone just went insane.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but what happens when the beholder has cataracts and brain damage from too much acid during the 60s. I mean, FFS! Well, since Chris makes such a huge deal about conformity, he will be happy that he does not conform to any kind of beauty standards outside of CrazyCrossdressers.com
Just like before, when Chris realized no one was taking the bait when he still dressed like a man, he will realize that his worldview of himself is nothing short of impossible. I really want to know how people react to Chris when he tells them with a straight face, "my name is Christine Weston Chandler, formerly Christian Weston Chandler".
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bums me out to hear chris is once again getting asspats and accommodations from people who are in a position to actually help him, but won't because it's too important to coddle the manchild's every ill-thought impulse
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They're fucking enablers of something worse than drugs - convincing someone it's "not that bad" to slice open your own taint for reasons of a superfluous nature.
If I was slicing open my own taint and posting pics about it on Facebook, I would expect, for the good of humanity, people to call me out on that shit.
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shitleopards, man, goddamn shitleopards
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To be fair, it's not exactly an easy issue to navigate. When you're talking about something as fundamental to a person's identity as their relationship with their own gender you can very easily end up making them worse. I think most therapists would try to avoid that minefield and instead help Chris become somewhat comfortable with himself. Though I should clarify "comfortable with yourself" doesn't mean coddling his delusions either. (powerlevel warning) I've been to therapists in my life and while they usually try to be "nice", they never coddled me either. Their goal is to try to nudge you in a positive direction. Part of that is convincing people that they're deserving of a better life to begin with, which is a very hard thing to do even if it sounds simple. But the other part of that reminding people that ultimately they have to actually change their behavior and that these things take work.
Chris hates work. He's also a stubborn little fucker and he's ignored so much good advice from us and people in his life over the years that if we wanted we could turn it into one of those self help book series and make a killing.
"Overcoming depression with Kiwifarms"
"The Kiwifarms guide to professional success"
"Kiwifarms and the art of living"
"The Tao of Kiwifarms"
Thousands of pages of beautiful, helpful, sentiment has been sent to Chris. He has promptly chucked all of it in the garbage.
I can't help but think his therapist hasn't done much better with him
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The conundrum that even the most successful of therapist might face is actually getting Chris to a point where he no longer wishes to self-destruct so that he can actually be deserving of a better life.
Right now, just through is actions alone, like:
- pissing off Kiwis
- stealing from weens
- not taking responsibility for anything....
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Chris is mentally ill and autistic. You can't really hold him to the same standards you do other people, which is ironically one of the things stopping his therapist from giving him an honest diagnosis of his problems (though to be fair we don't really know what's being said in that office).
I repeat my previous point that I wouldn't be surprised if Chris is hiding some of his less flattering misadventures from this person. I doubt he told them about mutilating his own taint. If he did they would have called emergency services or something. The only time therapists are allowed to break confidentiality I believe is if they believe the patient is a danger to themselves or others. Chris doing home surgery on himself is, I think, that line.
In a broader sense I don't think Chris needs a therapist (though I guess it's good he's talking to somebody). He needs a psychiatrist. And more than that he needs to be actually honest with that psychiatrist. Chris doesn't have the sort of problems one can talk him into overcoming.
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Well then, things should really be clear. If Chris is mentally ill, autistic, and slow in the minds, someone should be hovering over him like a helicopter to make sure he does not embarrass himself or continue to trample on the customs of society.
That is another problem, Chris does believe that he is smarter than everyone and that he has been gifted by god, meaning he will never be honest with anyone except Barb and Godbear. Because Chris is such a habitual omitter of constructive truths he needs to be under some kind of supervision. If Chris can get better, it will take people being brutally honest with him. Chris needs to understand that although we are all one race of flesh and bone, there are other people and things outside of him that will always be more important. Although Chris is autistic, I think he could understand the basic concept of not being the only thing that is living on the planet.
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Keep in mind, we have documentation of his psych evaluation from when he lost his shit on Mary Lee Walsh. It was pretty fucking vanilla, sort of read like "autistic boys will be autistic boys. Here's a lollipop..". Chris knew how to hold back the creepy even then.
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I think one of the reasons Chris hasn't been given meaningful help in the brain department is that everyone he talks to just kind of foolishly assumes that his problems are just autism and that there's therefore no point in encouraging him to get further treatment or start taking anti-psychotics or something. Granted autism is a massive part of what makes Chris Chris, but from what I can tell it's exacerbating his other problems more than the problem in and of itself. And for people who don't know him like his deranged obsessive internet fanbase knows him, that can be easy to miss. Especially because, like you said, he probably isn't being as honest with these people as he should be.
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Apologies if this has already been said in the last 12 pages but I think the main problem is Chris seems to have no frame of reference as to whether his own life is improving or declining. He can demonstrate a surprising resilience to really shitty situations but seems to show no preference to the better times. That's not to say he's incapable of putting any effort into anything but he just dawdles along trying on lifestyle choices and dropping them just as quickly, perhaps motivated by a vague sense of unease in his own (and Barbs) mortal peril, but he just doesn't seem to care for the details.
Like I would say Chris' life did objectively improve for a time - he resolved his run ins with the law, socialised reasonably often and ran a frankly successful Etsy business. But I guess we now know Chris himself didn't improve, and now he's mutilating himself as if that's the logical next step in his life.
Could someone who follows Chris more closely tell me whether Chris feels himself that his life is deteriorating?
Like I would say Chris' life did objectively improve for a time - he resolved his run ins with the law, socialised reasonably often and ran a frankly successful Etsy business. But I guess we now know Chris himself didn't improve, and now he's mutilating himself as if that's the logical next step in his life.
Could someone who follows Chris more closely tell me whether Chris feels himself that his life is deteriorating?
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There's a problem with saying Chris's recent bout of socialization was an improvement. It only happened because he became absolutely obsessed with an obviously disingenuous gender identity. I don't count a logical continuation of his hatred of men and fixation on femininity as "getting better".
Plus from what I can tell he was just as creepy and weird at the gay clubs as he was everywhere else. It's just the people at those scenes are more willing to humor anyone claiming an MtF identity
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