Is depression fake?

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Here is what I noticed
* The rise/discovery of depression coincides with the rise of therapists/anti-depressants
* Symptoms of depression include being sad, unproductive, unsatisfied with life
* Instead of change of lifestyle, people are told to go to a therapist or seek help, leading to...
* A lot of people I know diagnosed with depression often become dependent on anti-depressants or therapists

Could depression just be an excuse to sell anti-depressants and suck people dry of money?
 
Bad food, lack of exercise, malnutrition, overload of stress, lack of sunlight. It's a lot of incremental shit that adds up to make people idiot zombies coasting through life. Add on constant stress from the internet and news that people can't get away from ontop.

I don't know a single adult who didn't come out of covid in much better shape than before because they all spent 6 months reevaluating their lives. The only people who were worse off were BPD whores who are hopelessly broken and couldn't get their fix.
 
Could depression just be an excuse to sell anti-depressants and suck people dry of money?
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Don't know about that, but I think a lot of depression is self inflicted and/or over exaggerated to excuse complacency and shitty behavior which repeats in a cycle. Being unproductive isn't fulfilling and can make you an asshole to the people around you. But if someone calls you out for being an asshole you deflect it claiming MUH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. And because people are far to gullible they apologize and you become more unproductive making you more of an asshole. The more depressed someone is the more likely they have never tried to better themselves. If you never even try to better yourself the more depressed you'll be. If you have someone you care about who is depressed, you need to light a fire under their ass to take the initiative to be productive.
 
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depression and anxiety disorders can't be fake, how else could there be a market worth over 8 billion USD dedicated to treating it?
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I don't think it's fake per se, but I do think most people who suffer from it are actually suffering from situational issues, on top of shit diets and lack of exercise.
 
Depends what you mean by fake. It's only a low-level psychological reaction, what I mean by that is if you run up on a depresso and start trying to drown them they're gonna fight you and fight you hard 99.9999% of the time. The small fraction that would more or less let you kill them are the true suicidals and they're either mentally ill or doing it on purpose (willful honor, shit like that).

Basically this kind of depression seems to be what people do when they've got enough to eat and a roof over their heads, granted you can be a homeless and poor and be depressed, but that's almost the opposite - if you had success and money tomorrow you'd snap out of it, or you fall into that marginal mentally ill/suicidal category.

BUT - that's the physical nature, while the spiritual nature mostly has to do with people being isolated and disconnected from others. You are only as big as your relationships, and most people don't have many of those. I dunno how many medicated depressos are say, church pastors or other vocations/positions (or even a native who lives locally with a huge family) where you have relational interactions with hundreds, rather than 2 or 3, people.
 
I believe there is real depression. People suffering from trauma or loss are pretty understandable in being unable to function.

The issue with depression now is that a good chunk of it is just doomerism or a lacking of satisfaction in life. Times are shitty, and many depressed folk are likely just stressed and feel unfulfilled in how their life currently is. The answer is to work to do better and improve, but also to understand that life will be shit. Sometimes you just can't form good relationships for reasons out of your control, as it takes two and many will probably be too caught up in their own lives to lend time to you. Stress from school/work is also something you just need to learn to get through as sometimes things don't get better and you need to work through the shit to get to better places. I think depression is just a symptom of people giving up. Many of the suffering are young and were told about how x chapter of your life was the fun one before factors changed and things got shitty, leading to people feeling behind and like they are doing something wrong. With Covid, things probably got worse as people were isolated and years were swept away, which for many young, were critical ones such as high school or college.
 
I could bet that depression rises the more and more bunched together people are. Super dense cities probably have the worst cases. Really though, it is a relative term. Pharma gets money off of labeling things vaguely so they can drug people to shit. Someone can have depression and have what someone without it would consider a very good life, and at the same time someone can have depression and actually be living in squalor. They will most of the time be having a much worse time mentally than the former person.
 
I was diagnosed with depression twenty years ago and I’ve been faking it ever since. It’s been a burden.
 
Depression as a concept isn't fake, it's the drugs that supposedly cure it and the attention whores that use it as a crutch that are fake.
 
Speaking as someone who was diagnosed with depression and generalized anxiety, I believe it to be real. Some people fake it because, as @DumbDude42 says, victimhood comes with status in today's identity-obsessed culture. However, I see some people who simply do not want to put the work in to improve their situation. Partly because they do not want to lose their status, but I suspect much of it has to do with laziness and that they have grown too comfortable in their misery. It is hard work to change a mindset and I have fallen off the wagon more than once, but I found it worth it because things are often not was bad as they appear to be. Some people want to believe that there is a magical pill to make it disappear or validation from like-minded people will improve their lot.

And yes, I do take medication, but it is part of a routine that includes exercise and mindfulness.
 
Is depression fake? Fuck no.

Is it being used as a means of scamming you out of money through useless therapists and pills? Absolutely.
 
Depression is very real, indeed. Believe most anti-depressants are of little use. The cure can soon turn out to be worse than the disease.

One thing that helps a lot is just taking it one day at a time, or if a day is too much, then take it one hour or even one minute at a time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just get through today. Then you get through the next day. You make a week. Then keep taking it a day at a time until you have another week, then a month, and so on until you climb out of the depression.

It always takes longer to get out of a spate of depression than it did to get into it. Don't believe anyone permanently vanquishes depression. Instead, they just push depression away at an increasing distance, until something happens and depression is at the door again. A cycle of life, for life, if you will.
 
It's real but a lot of people fake it and a lot of medical professionals just give people pills which make them feel worse and don't cure it because they need a customer.
 
* The rise/discovery of depression coincides with the rise of therapists/anti-depressants
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You may be starting from a causal fallacy. Correlation does not indicate causation. People spend greater amounts of money during the winter. One could suppose that the cold weather makes people want to spend money... or perhaps it is Black Friday or Christmas shopping.

This is exactly the line of thinking that leads to the belief that autism is "more common" is modern times or that vaccines can cause autism. The former also correlates to defining autism disorders and thus being able to diagnose them and the latter correlates to the affectations that are symptomatic of autism beginning to be identifiable at a similar age as when children begin to receive most childhood vaccinations.

Could there be a great deal of misdiagnosed cases of depression either for profit or by negligence? There's a non-zero possibility of that, but I don't think your argumentation that depression is fake comes from a sound line of logic. Perhaps the supposition "depression is largely misdiagnosed" may be more appropriate.
 
It's fake when other people do it but when it happens to me you need to prescribe the real shit, doctor.
 
Depression is over diagnosed nowadays like ADD was in the 90s. It’s real and the people who are truly suffering deserve help and understanding, but the zoomers who spend all day on twitter fearmongering just need to turn the phone off and go outside.
Treatment isn’t consooming becaus UwU u had a bad day, it’s pushing yourself to learn real coping skills and do the work to stop navel gazing.
 
I don't think it's fake, I don't quite buy into the conspiracy of "they diagnose it to sell pills" either.

The problem with depression, and any other psychological issue, is a whole lot of psychology was founded on theories that aren't really provable. In more recent decades the idea that psychological issues are actually caused by physical issues like brain chemistry has gained ground, which is why you see a lot of doctors prescribing meds. It has the benefit of actually being provable as well, unlike a lot of the Freudian and Jungian ideas floating around out there.

It's hard to say which is worse, giving someone meds that literally mess with their heads or spending years in a therapeutic circle jerk. The competent doctors I know of look for a multifaceted approach to treatment.
 
Depression is real. It's how we treat it that's fake. Depression can literally be cured by choosing to be happy. You live in miserable conditions because you were taught to. It's learned helplessness. And instead of being taught to treat yourself better and enjoy life, we're taught that we're born with broken brains and need pills to be happy.
 
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