Is Imagine the song of the antichrist - A schizo post

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Not just libtarded, but it's not even anti-bigotry, like anti-fundamentalism or anti-oppression or whatever gay shit, it's anti-religion and anti-patriotism in their entirety.

For me it's the world of ennui and apathy it describes. Nothing greater worth striving for and no higher purpose in life, it's all pointless so all that matters is today.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Yes

I hate it. The ideas behind it are ghastly. Not just libtarded, but it's not even anti-bigotry, like anti-fundamentalism or anti-oppression or whatever gay shit, it's anti-religion and anti-patriotism in their entirety. Particularly the jab at the idea of God.

Put it this way, I was sorting through my Bibles earlier today. I'm a profane speaking person (as much in person as on here), not even a Christian and I stopped reading, but I was holding this tome of scriptures an old man gave me at the first church I went to and I felt an affection for it, maybe not for its own sake but as a symbol of the idea of God, and I kissed it.

Then on the other hand you have this faggot ("bigger than Jesus") running around telling everyone how the world would be perfect if we all listened to his trite dope-fried ramblings.


Why, just because it's lame and gay? It sucks as music but I don't see how it's deserving of all the hate it gets.

Idk, I think turning every church from well practiced choir hymns and calming instruments into some dude named Kyle playing three chords while his boyfriend plays percussion on a box he’s sitting on deserves quite a bit of hate. Really kills any sense of refinement and turns the religion into a weak, emotion driven camp for preteens. If I were the antichrist that’s also probably about what I would want to achieve

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

The song itself is an ideal, and vague enough to be open to interpretation.

The WEF can read their little utopia from it, "Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can".

I'm sure someone who has seen real, third world poverty could identify with the more hopeful aspects. "No need for greed or hunger, A brotherhood of man".

I'm sure the Afghanis being executed for teaching their daughters how to read similarly won't feel awfully fond of religion. "Nothing to kill or die for. And no religion, too".

A dream indeed. Impossible to realise, but societies do like ideologies. I can see it being pulled any number of directions other than the WEF and the UN, though I do see why they like it.

It's not Satanic. It's just not pious.

It’s more oddly British than anything else. There’s some weird state worship mixed with British intellectualism (which is always really anti-British). The British elite hate their own country and people. I don’t know if it’s a lack of real religious belief because the CoE has been declining since Queen Victoria or the Empire on a decline with the U.K. becoming irrelevant on a Global scale within our lifetimes.

They also think there is a universal morality. That you don’t need a moral education in order to be a moral person. That people can be “good” without instruction rather than understanding that humanity will enforce morality brutally should it need to and that half the success of the British Empire was hard discipline and sabotaging of their enemies via underhanded means.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Usually satanic songs are thought as being some heavy rock and about committing sins, but Imagine is way more horrific in its WEF like end-goal while also presenting itself as clean and uplifting.

BTW I think that kind of thing is where Satanism actually thrives.

There's this Hollywood image of demons and Satan working through things like serial killers, cults, what not. And I won't say that doesn't play a role, but I don't think you really need it. Serial killers, for example, are in a way as natural as it gets, they're sick perverts that like torturing people and playing with corpses, they're better at it than an animal because they've got enough intelligence to really apply themselves to it, but it's ultimately the same thing as a cat toying with a mouse, just pure bestial malice.

Humans, on the other hand, have this incredible ability to destroy themselves and everything around them through their own (supposed) good intentions. They also do things that are just deranged and self-destructive in ways no animal would think of. No animal would think to tattoo itself and stick a bone through its nose. No animal would come up with a practice like crippling its daughters feet so they look "hot." And no animal would invent something like Communism. There is something deeply broken in the human mind, and it comes straight from the imperfect nature of people being able to think through right and wrong without having sufficient wisdom to handle that. So they try to play God and fail horribly at it.

Satan operates like a mind virus, a meme, steering whole societies towards spectacular acts of self-destruction or perpetual immiseration in ways both small and large. Mass movements.

The heavy rock stuff with demon imagery and sex drugs and rock and roll is just childish. It can have its harm, but the people that go in for that stuff - musician and fan alike - are playing with the smallest demons in a whole army of Hell.


Edit: Read about revolutionary hysteria in any totalitarian regime. Chinese started straight up eating people in Guangxi, not from famine, but as part of mass hysteria in the Cultural Revolution.

Idk, I think turning every church from well practiced choir hymns and calming instruments into some dude named Kyle playing three chords while his boyfriend plays percussion on a box he’s sitting on deserves quite a bit of hate. Really kills any sense of refinement and turns the religion into a weak, emotion driven camp for preteens. If I were the antichrist that’s also probably about what I would want to achieve

Does it have to be slower and calmer to qualify as a hymn?
A lot of gospel and gospel-influenced music is upbeat and happy but is still designed to be sung by a crowd (as for corporate worship) and still has a distinct religious feeling (just one of triumph/joy/ecstasy instead of wonder/awe/peace; both are legitimate and even necessarily complementary parts of religious experience).

 

[Ayana Otonashi]

Steely Dan owned him

but that would mean no revolver album or happiness is a warm gun.

he did make the song after the beatles disbanded to be fair

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Reminder that John Lennon thought it was okay to leave your dog in a hot car as long as you don't look back.