Is leftism becoming unpopular?

[BoxerShorts47]

The Dems changed insomuch that they exchanged one form of slavery (overt, privately managed) for another (government welfare). What sets abolitionists apart from the social justice warriors (whose tactics of financial and physical tyranny are used today by elements such as DEI and BLM) was the idea that a person’s race should not be a factor in determining a person’s place in life (as opposed to modern day Dems that have pushed idpol for a decade and a half now). The biggest change in the ideology of either party was their role in politics; the Dems aiming to be a corrupt majority and the Repubs being a useless minority, as American politics slid into a unilateral state.

Okay...I see. Stop watching Republican propaganda.

Radical Abolitionists refused to enforce slavery laws the same way leftists refuse to enforce immigration laws today, underground railroad = sanctuary cities today. The radical Abolitionists wanted integration with the negro just the leftists want to integration with the whole world today (desegregation = open borders). The radical abolitionists tried to instigate slave rebellions the same way leftists instigate BLM riots.

"person’s race should not be a factor in determining a person’s place in life"
Means to an end. They used "equality" rhetoric to enact their goals. Those goals included the destruction of all white spaces and places and the leftist idpol policies of today have the same outcome, the destruction of all white people and white nations.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Don't worry the return of the pendulum will come any time now you just have to believe and accept it as your lord and savior

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Well... not really.

You have all these Millennials in Antifa and Zoomers on TikTok who grew up in times when gay marriage was steadily socially accepted and later legalized and also the rise of the Democratic Socialist ideology in the US. You have these kids who think they're fighting "Fascism" by beating up someone for wearing a certain red hat or smashing a window of a business during a riot to "fight Capitalism". If you ask these people about Communism, they'd tell you, "Yeah, I'm TOTALLY a Communist/Marxist!" but they don't really seem to understand to an ACTUAL Communist government, like with Stalin, they'd be considered the useful idiots who are the first ones to get shot once the revolution is over.

In historical Communist countries like the USSR, the soy/laptop class are considered the harmful bourgeoisie element. The REAL proletariat would be the rural redneck and hood dweller types who are poor/working class. Real Communist leaders like Joseph Stalin and Chairman Mao wouldn't be okay with homosexuality or these types owning fancy smart devices/homes and apartments of their own. They're not leading a revolution, they're a bunch of idiots who want to play Communism, who would only be killed in a REAL Communist government once the future dictator decides they've outlived their usefulness to the revolution.

Leftists ideologies are getting popular with young people because they feel like they're "woke" ideologies that'll give them a free/easy ride in life when they'll just be executed or starve to death under real Communism. And when you bring this up, they'll argue that "wasn't REAL Communism!" even though if they met a real Communist, they'd likely cry, "I just want free college/healthcare! I don't want to abolish private property!" before it's off to be literally worked and starved to death in the gulag. And the Fascism they think they're fighting (unlike a right wing populist government like with Trump) is going to come THEN. Because historically, Fascism has been a reaction to a corrupt Leftist government. These Antifa and TikTok Reddit types would be long dead and in a mass grave by the time ACTUAL Fascism rears its head.

 

[SentinentCloud]

Belief in progressivism will not end, and its increasing.

Fact that is meaningless, given as it increases so does the decompossition of the countries that Accept it.
It is a parasite that grows stronger, but as it does so, the hosts simply die faster.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Belief in progressivism will not end, and its increasing.

Fact that is meaningless, given as it increases so does the decompossition of the countries that Accept it.
It is a parasite that grows stronger, but as it does so, the hosts simply die faster.

I don't really see belief in it increasing organically. There are a lot of problems as a result of it and I don't see people quite as scared of criticizing left wing ideology like they used to.

I dunno how much of this is just blackpilled rhetoric or actual fact now. And the main issue is academia being infested with woke ideology more than anything.

 

[El_Bandido_Federal]

I might just have to copy-paste on the whole thing from someone since I don't have time to elaborate and even if I manage to do it, it will be midwit tier.

It's outstanding that for 50 years they held in power, but of course it's usefulness is over.

The left has decapitated itself intellectually.

For years now the only ostensibly leftist content creators to churn out some interesting ideas and incorporate a more familiar Marxist or "post-modernist" critique of politics and culture has been Zero Books/Sublation Media. Recently Benedict Cryptofash posted this review of Sublation in which he notes that leftist is basically unable to posture as a dissident movement any longer (shocking revelation I know).

Douglas Lain responded to it, and watching him just sort of shrug and even acknowledge that he himself could get some temporary attention and praise by pivoting to the right. You get the distinct impression Lain knows the score here. Leftwing dissident movements are basically DOA, Sublation has a tiny audience, and Douglas Lain has certainly seen various leftwing movements over the decades collapse into pure farce such as Occupy Wallstreet. To be honest it's just kind of depressing to see him take a swig from his ex-wife's coffee mug and just hit play on his prerecorded video with Ashley Frawley.

This is basically it, it's the heat death of leftwing intellectualism. Either you become a post-leftist fart-sniffer like Benedict Cryptofash, pivot to the dissident right, or hang out on YouTube with 10,000 subscribers, no actual political movement, and an increasingly smaller circle of friends.

Some commentary on this:
It's just an example of the "you're thrown away like an empty husk once you've lost your usefulness to the (((elites)))" dilemma.

The function of the "good, old-fashioned Left" since WW2 was to drive a wedge between the White elites (WASPs) and their plebs. Job done, they're no longer useful, even as useful idiots. Fundamentally, egalitarianism is the tool that destroyed the Left.

Also, you have to wonder that if the elites lost control of the schizo-left (trannies, TERFs, SJW's, and ect.)? You can see why that tranny shooting happened because they're felling that they might not be safe into the future. I might have to look in another angle why the left is collaping so suddenly?

 

[skykiii]

One personal experience I had about this that... well, I'm not sure how to take it.

I was visiting my sister and her kids. I noticed on XBox live there was a thing advertising something like "games feminists like" and I pointed out that they had Celeste, which is good.... but my niece immediately said "I hate SJWs."

This was about a year or two back, but it surprised me she even knew what an SJW was. I don't talk politics around kids, and her parents are both vaguely liberal but also of the "we don't really discuss politics around kids" attitude. So the only thing I can think is she learned it at school.

So I'm not sure what, if anything, this means.

................

It does make me think of a phenomenon I've noticed. Basically: Every generation's politics seems to be defined by an extreme overreaction to what came before.

I was growing up in the 1980s and 1990s, and by the latter I recall reaching a point where everyone I knew hated how the grownups wanted to ban and restrict everything because of "think of the children!" For some reason this attitude was associated with the right-wing even though one of the voices behind it, Senator Joe Liebermann, was a democrat. But most of it--like the "Satanic Panic" around Dungeons & Dragons--really was right-wing.

Which I always theorized led to this idea that the right were these old fuddy-duddies who want to ban everything, which led to a lot of people of that generation more readily accepting leftist politics because they saw lefties as the cool kids who saw through the bullshit.

Then, of course, the lefties became the new right and started doing the same shit but being even worse in a lot of ways. And already now I'm seeing a backlash to that.

I think that sometime in the next 30 years, we're gonna start seeing the new generation of Spoonies get on their high horse about how the Militant Left ruined everything, but at the same time its gonna make them blind to any bad things the Right-Wing are doing, because they'll be unable to leave their childhood preconception of "the left tried to cut my dick off because I liked pink so I side with the right because they'd never do that." And call you a socialist any time you point out the religious authorities locking people up for breaking the Graven Images commandment.

 

[Monuklear]

In general what I see (or perhaps I'm just projecting) is that politics as a whole, be they left- or right-wing, are becoming less popular.
People are just tired of all of this shit.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Why would the promise of free money and services become unpopular?

 

[skykiii]

Why would the promise of free money and services become unpopular?

Same reason as cheaper Dollar Store alternatives to brand-name products.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Same reason as cheaper Dollar Store alternatives to brand-name products.

Why would dollar stores be unpopular?

 

[skykiii]

Why would dollar stores be unpopular?

Over the years people picked up on the fact--while some lower-cost items are no different (and sometimes a higher value to) the more expensive version.... for many things, that extra spending also gets you extra quality.

There can also be a bit of a stigma to getting the cheap version (or at least there used to be--maybe its no longer a thing but I do recall hearing about people getting teased because they bought clothes at Goodwill).

So take that, now put it on the level of something actually important like, you know, medical care.... you see where this is going.

Also I wasn't really thinking about Dollar General when I posted that.... in my area there's an even lower cost alternative called Dollar Tree, where literally everything is a dollar... and yeah, the quality is exactly what you'd expect.

 

[Anonitolia]

Why would dollar stores be unpopular?

>Wyoming has almost no dollar-general stores
holy shit it really is a no man's land

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Over the years people picked up on the fact--while some lower-cost items are no different (and sometimes a higher value to) the more expensive version.... for many things, that extra spending also gets you extra quality.

There can also be a bit of a stigma to getting the cheap version (or at least there used to be--maybe its no longer a thing but I do recall hearing about people getting teased because they bought clothes at Goodwill).

So take that, now put it on the level of something actually important like, you know, medical care.... you see where this is going.

Also I wasn't really thinking about Dollar General when I posted that.... in my area there's an even lower cost alternative called Dollar Tree, where literally everything is a dollar... and yeah, the quality is exactly what you'd expect.

We were talking about popularity. Not stigma. Of course leftism is also mired with stigma (what political ideology isn't). Of course you can make arguments why leftism or dollar stores are dumb. Those werent the topic. It was whether it's popular. To be popular it only requires a lot of people, regardless of their abilities or knowledge, to choose it.

Whether people picked up on the fact that it is lesser quality or not, they're still profitable and still opening new stores. Their products are atill popularly purchased. Whatever you say about the quality of leftism, it is and will remain popular.

 

[Cat Stew]

no, its just a niche internet community thats just been gaining more attention recently.

they aren't leftist, but they aren't rightists either. they simply say shit to horrify people. for example, they are vehemently anti-trans, but are pro child porn. they are conspiracy theorists, but the theories they believe in are nazi ufos, agartha, and yakub. they are trapstars from the hood and sipping lean, but theyre aryan clansmen. its all a larp to be the biggest edgelord possible for the fun of it.

id mainly compare them with sseth and soyjak, but not as much for soyjak.

 

[Climaxing Sunset]

I think that in America, people are becoming more leftist because America is becoming less White, and let’s not forget that 50% of whites are liberals nowadays

But I do think that europe might make a right wing turn. Maybe not the UK, but I do see signs in Italy, Hungary, Poland, and other states that are starting to reject the leftist wokes nonsense. Europeans have a closer attachment to their lands of their ancestors much more than Americans.

America in the future will be corrupt, shitty, brown, and violent. And usually these populations will vote Left because the left will represent them the most. I read somewhere that America’s productivity and innovation is also starting to decline a lot as well, because of the aforementioned IQ decline and the removal of meritocracy.

America will no longer a free country, but rather a dictatorship ruling over a mass of mutts, and the founding stock of Americans + White Ethnics will be marginalized.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

the troon and gay rainbow flag is the new american flag and everyone already takes it for granted.

 

[footballteam]

A small white-pill.

I went down a voting exit-poll rabbit hole a few months ago. I think Tufts University had good info on it.

Dems took majority share of the 18-29 demographic in 2006. Right after the time millennials started voting, and has had that demographic by double digits since 2008 (due to hope and change).

However, the 30-44 demographic, while it's a bit more liberal than in 2006, it is still near that 50%R-50%D vote share (excluding 3rd party), in 2022. This demographic would currently encompass most if not all millennials, so perhaps there is some truth in the "more conservative as you age" cliché. Another caveat, is that the "peak" delta between Rs and Ds in the youth vote occurred in 2018.


side note: It also showed that the older demographic where not overwhelmingly R either.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

I think that in America, people are becoming more leftist because America is becoming less White, and let’s not forget that 50% of whites are liberals nowadays

But I do think that europe might make a right wing turn. Maybe not the UK, but I do see signs in Italy, Hungary, Poland, and other states that are starting to reject the leftist wokes nonsense. Europeans have a closer attachment to their lands of their ancestors much more than Americans.

America in the future will be corrupt, shitty, brown, and violent. And usually these populations will vote Left because the left will represent them the most. I read somewhere that America’s productivity and innovation is also starting to decline a lot as well, because of the aforementioned IQ decline and the removal of meritocracy.

America will no longer a free country, but rather a dictatorship ruling over a mass of mutts, and the founding stock of Americans + White Ethnics will be marginalized.

Being left or right wing in europe is a lot less meaningful distinction. A better question is pro EU or anti EU. After all more and more legislation is made in Brussels.

For example, the Dutch military land forces were recently put completely under command of german generals ("but the dutch will continue to have influence" wrote the newspaper.)

French military already put the EU flag over the french one. So do EU passports.

And though European countries aren't quite as muttified as the US, demographics and immigration numbers really make this a foregone conclusion too.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

I think with what has happened in the past year, I think it has.

Many people now are starting to see how harmful and destructive the woke has become. Many people are now starting to realize that we can’t let crazy people dictate what we can say or do on certain platforms. People are going to fight back against this toxic cancer that is cancel culture and will demand a new ideology that doesn’t have the same stigma as the woke replace it in the mainstream culture.

It has happened before in early 2010s. The moral guardian establishment that has been prevalent in the 90s and 2000s started fading away by 2011. By 2013, the people pushing the values of moral guardians slowly started pushing the woke ideology into the mainstream discourse. What we have in the woke culture is “Think of the minorities” in place of “Think of the children” that was common with fundies and moral guardians in the 1980s-2000s.

However, with the rise of traditionalists, I think leftism as a mainstream establishment ideology is now unpopular even with the so-called “modern audiences” and will fade away. However, it will take decade or 2 to truly become extinct and transition to the next ideology chosen by the collective elite, traditionalism. The previous establishment ideology, Moral Guardianism lost it’s power by 2000, but it took almost a decade and a half for them to truly lose influence in popular culture.

I do believe the same will happen to the leftists, although I do predict they will become very unpopular and will have their talking points debunked by the mainstream media after large amounts of backlash, it will take just as long or even more time than the moral guardians for them to truly become extinct in the mainstream culture.