Is Singapore the only example of multiculturalism actually being successful?

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Title pretty much. The country mainly comprises of Chinese, Malays and Indians. I guess that's cuz Singapore has a lot going for it that you just can't expect the same puzzle piece to fit into the slot for other countries like America, Canada etc. It helps that unlike most other countries that only adopted multiculturalism much later, Singapore was pretty much founded on it (A chink and a pajeet are considered the founding fathers of the country)

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Can you call it multicultural when it's primarily Chinese and other sub species of Asians? Also I always remembered Singapore as third country shithole wlthat people went to primarily to bang prostitutes, don't know if it's still the norm.
 
No, the state of Singapore was literally created as an alternative to multicultural Malaysia. If anything it's a refutation of multiculturalism and a successful example of post-War lowercase-F fascism.
 
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Is this supposed to be ironic or have you really been living under a rock?
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Dubai and Saudi Arabia can boast the same cityscapes. Doesn't mean that the above is not solely reserved for the hyper elite minority who rule over almost literal dirt poor peasants, which make up the vast majority of the population, with an iron fist.
 
It's based on my memory from films 20 years ago. Plus a country being extremely wealthy doesn't mean the lower classes live in a decent way.
Median income is higher than the US according to some measures. Yeah there’s pretty severe inequality when you compare how the bottom 10% live to the top, but the lowest classes are still living in a clean, safe environment. Crime is basically nonexistent, education is some of the best in the world, utilities are modern and state of the art, healthcare is affordable and top-notch. I’d much rather be destitute in Singapore than the US, for example. Plus they execute drug dealers.
 
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The shitty prostitute country people ITT are thinking about is Thailand. Singapore's pretty cool but calling it multicultural ignores that it's like 75% Chinese. Iirc the founder considered multiculturalism unnatural and that a strong government which harshly punishes criminals is necessary to handle racial tensions. Basically, they're allowed to cane thieves over there.
 
singapore is roughly 75% chinese, 15% malays, 10% indians.
it is 'multicultural' in the same way the early USA were 'multicultural' when they consisted 98% of english, french, germans, scandinavians. like, yeah those are different cultures, but they're all closely related and from the same larger culture group (european)

likewise, in singapore 90% of their population is from the east and southeast asian culture groups, the rest are from india which isn't super foreign to the region either. it's not really comparable with modern western multiculturalism which consists of population groups that are MUCH more different and further apart from each other.
 
Singapore is a society that should be put under a microscope for studying just how exactly they were able to pull it off, Yes it is a perfectly functioning multicultural society but that is by keeping it in what amounts to diet totalitarianism. To date I still cannot figure out if that city state is evidence keeping the naturally authoritarian asians under a despotic boot is somehow the best system for them or if the entire city was elevated to the great heights it is at now by the sheer ability and intelligence of lee kuan yew, one of the greatest statesmen to ever live.
It brings up a multitude of questions if authoritarianism is the only way to keep a multicultural/racial society from devolving into a third world shithole or if multiculturalism depends entirely upon the character of the cultures that make up said nation, compare it to south africa, a democratic multicultural nation which is devolving into shit, there is an SA thread somewhere on here with some rather enlightening posts.

Is having the rainbow squad of multiculturalism worth living under a totalitarian boot? I dont think it is, and this is making the assumption of a benevolent and efficient dictator which if there ever was one lee kuan yew fits the bill, and would the people living under such a boot tolerate those conditions? I suppose thats a debate for another thread but in the end I see two paths of having a multicultural society where each ethnic group is alien from eachother and not willing to assimilate, either a nonfunctional mess or a authoritarian mess that could turn sour real quick.
 
I wouldnt say its been completely successful, I mean they have had literal race wars before.
 
I wouldnt say its been completely successful, I mean they have had literal race wars before.
that was right before Singapore was fully independent as its own city state and was a part of Malaysia, in other words before the authoritarian experiment had even started. That and most places that underwent decolonialization had some kind of ethnic kerfuffle shortly after decolonization started
 
Most folks think of that American punk that was caned when Singapore was brought up. It inspired American Hardcore Wrestling

Philippines could be that multicultural success story if it wasn't for the strained relations between Northern and Southern islands or the Islamic regions. Speaking of which,
there was an infamous case that strained Philippines and Singapore's relationship when they accused and executed an innocent Philippine worker
When that incident happened, there were anti-Singapore sentiments there were even protests from locals, future president Duterte was one of them which he burned a Singaporean flag.
 
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No, the state of Singapore was literally created as an alternative to multicultural Malaysia. If anything it's a refutation of multiculturalism and a successful example of post-War lowercase-F fascism.
This. Singapore has been ruled by the PAP and the Lee tyrants for over 50 years now. Malaysians are literally second class citizens with the Tamils being even lower than that. That isn't multiculturalism. On top of that Singapore has a huge British inferiority complex to the point they actively beat the shit out of people who speak the local Malaysian-English creole that is Singlish. Essentially they're trying to do what Switzerland did - create a fake nation out of multiple ethnicities.
 
The Russian Empire, the USSR (and Russia to lesser extent) were such examples. The Russian Empire included drastically different ethnicities (from Poland to Buryatia) and in some sense it was multicultural. However one can't say that those people co-existed peacefully and Russian metropolia had to wage wars against its colonies. Also, no one pretended that all cultures were equal and vaild, rich Christian Russians were the overlords.

The Soviets managed to integrate muslim, christian, and even buddhist republics even better, in many ways because they slipped into their inner workings at much deeper level than the Empire ever did. It demanded from national republics (new word for former colonies) to leave the middle ages behind and embrace papa Lenin. Imo it was quite successful, Armenians lived in Baku, Azeri lived in Armenia, Russians lived in Chechnya, Jews lived in Uzbekistan, muslim Tatars and Bashkirs were integrated and made secular. Soviet cinema showed people of various ethnicies and underlined that everyone was a friend of everyone as long they are all working class. Was the USSR multicultural, though? Yes and no. You could have retained your culture until the said culture was in line with the Party. Of course, anyone who refused integrate, faced the wall.

. Essentially they're trying to do what Switzerland did - create a fake nation out of multiple ethnicities.

Interesting, how in the USSR there was a term "soviet man" aka homo soveticus. It was artificial and fake and generally ended when the USSR gtfo-ed itself, leaving a rather vague term "Russian". Unlike in English, in Russian the word "Russian" have two differed meanings. Russian aka the citizen of the RF, and Russian aka a person of Russian ethnicity (white, slav, etc). As you can guess, those two are wildly different.
 
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