Is the desire for the object of our desire greater than the object itself?

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I was listening to Slavoj Zizek talk about how a male pornstar needed to look up a video on pornhub to get erect when the woman was right there in front of him. He claims that desire is greater than the object of desire itself that we are never truly satisfied.
 
Could be. Ever have a medium to long-term goal you've been working towards, finally achieve that goal, and find out a few days/weeks later that you felt happier chasing it than having finally completed it? I think lots of old people fall into this trap after they retire. They work their entire lives for this amazing goal and a few months into retirement they're bored to tears and take up recreational drinking and TV watching. Humans need something to struggle for constantly. Evolution wired us that way
 
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Read Lacan instead of watching the tard zizek. Lacan was a Catholic and not an idiot, and he took psychoanalysis and made it based only to troll the jew freud
 
Heather Mason said:
Humans need something to struggle for constantly. Evolution wired us that way
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Pretty good and succinct way to put things.

Look at different long term goals people have achieved and how it turned out in the end: Marriage, the storyline leading up to it is almost fantastical, about 50% of the time it ends in tears, even though the dream scenario plays out often... great relationship in the beginning, have the kids, buy the house... but after that the dragon disappears, the chase and the high are gone, then the realization kicks in that this isn't even what you really wanted, the fuck was the point.

I have a friend who's relatively young. Single, mid 20's, car paid off, money in the bank, about to finish college, ability to move anywhere in the country, and a couple of years into a career field where he's most likely going to hit the 6 figure salary threshold before he turns 35, maybe even 30, but every goal he achieves still leaves him feeling unfulfilled.

Or look at something simple like online shopping, how many times has someone revisited a page 20 times before they finally pulled the trigger and bought something they really wanted. It arrives and wow... cool... next.

Definitely an interesting subject to explore. Human's... funny thing that.
 
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For the better part of 5 years I've been practicing semen retention. During this time semen retention to me was the be-all end-all. It was the catalyst to everything in my life, career, fitness, improved social skill and luck with girls. I felt like every improvement in my life was drawn from semen retention. I believed that ejaculating was the equivalent of Sampson cutting his hair, and no one could tell me otherwise.

During this year I reached a point in my self-improvement journey where I had improved my SMV to the point where access to sex was fairly easy due to my greatly improved SMV. Whereas I never really had this before. It was the first year of my life where I alternated between semen retention streaks and intimacy with real girls instead of fapping and semen retention with occasional real intimacy. It's only been recently that I've come to the realization though that semen retention is not everything that there is. There is a lot that lays beneath semen retention that will determine your success (or failure) in life besides semen retention.

Last week I ejaculated less than a day prior to performing a battle fitness test (I'm in the military). It's a lengthy fitness test that involves a workout that lasts close to an hour performed in all of your combat gear. Let me tell you I did not want to do this in the slightest and felt that doing this after ejaculating I wouldn't even have the fortitude to finish. I finished with a personal record time on it. I fell back entirely on my mental resilience. I drove my body through it. There were no semen retention benefits involved in the slightest. This was my first sign to myself that there might be something more to success in life than semen retention.

The second sign for myself was procuring a date with a girl that I had a genuine interest in and could actually see a relationship with (this is quite rare for me since I'm very particular). This happened as well, the day after ejaculating. This helped to put aside the belief in my head that women's interest in me was solely from the virility and polarizing masculine energy that semen retention gave me.

These two experiences were important moments in my life that told me that even when things seem dark, after losing my semen, that there's still enough light in me to accomplish great things and attract the right people into my life.
 
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I wouldn't say I've ever enjoyed the desire. The chase was in hindsight never all that interesting. What does happen is that during the chase the goal is often more desirable than when you finally achieve it. Reality is often less interesting than the dream. Achieving the goal is also probably the climax. The reason why you resume the chase is for that moment where everything falls into place.
 
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Maxxicus Callahan said:
I was listening to Slavoj Zizek talk about how a male pornstar needed to look up a video on pornhub to get erect when the woman was right there in front of him. He claims that desire is greater than the object of desire itself that we are never truly satisfied.
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I'll have two responses to this. One to the specific example and one about the meta-desire.

It's a pretty inorganic way to have sex when you get to work and are told "yeah you have to fuck this busted up skank today". Besides everyone has days at work their heart is not in it, even people that do jobs they love. He is not there for desire, he is there for cash.

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And the journey is in many ways superior to the destination. It's like the uncomfortable last scene in "the graduate", where past the point of climactic rebellion, they don't know what to do or where things will go.

The US declaration of independance does not mention just happiness. But the persuit of happiness. It's not about the desire, but the striving itself that is essential to lead a fulfilling life.
 
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Bad Gateway said:
Zizek is a pederast and a faggot.
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Hardly, look at this chad
 
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