Is the internet is supposed to be toxic?

[YautjaWeeb]

The Internet has never been any more "toxic" than the real world. Traditionally, there was always an understanding to leave your real life out of the Internet and vice versa. It was always toxic in the sense that you could act rude to other people or see offensive things, but there was a layer of unreality that made it easy for anyone who wasn't a pansy to play along. Despite that unreality, there was an honesty to it.

Social media companies designed their platforms to reward highly negative, aggressive and disordered behaviors as well as cause them in people (especially minors).

It makes people utterly sick for the shekels and the executives have known the effects all along similar to tobacco executives when they knew how harmful smoking was and denied it.

Its quite a bit different than previous days when the vast majority of minors, eccentrics and mentally-ill people would be generally unable to operate a basic home computer and modem. There were certainly a few, I know I was one but you're talking maybe a dozen individuals in an entire neighborhood or entire school. No one was radicalized into anything or targeted for digital control with significant corporate, financial and political {{{interests}}} behind it. Its a legitimate nightmare comparing the two worlds and no amount of goonfuel will ever make its widespread adoption worthwhile.

 

[William F. Clinton]

Its quite a bit different than previous days when the vast majority of minors, eccentrics and mentally-ill people would be generally unable to operate a basic home computer and modem. There were certainly a few, I know I was one but you're talking maybe a dozen individuals in an entire neighborhood or entire school.

Yeah, that's true. The bar of entry is now nonexistent and people who really aren't responsible or mentally well enough to handle the Internet can seek out communities of like-minded types that amplify their worst behaviors. 20 years ago, that bar of entry, however small, meant that the Internet was primarily used by young, First World men who had at least had the wits and knowledge to use a computer that wasn't designed to be as retard-friendly as possible.

A lot of the problems the Internet gets blamed for could be solved if there was a return of that type of filter to shave off people who are too dumb/naive/manipulable to handle the heat. Of course that won't ever happen, though. Pandora's Box has been opened: the Internet is too ingrained into the modern world order and not one company or government has any financial motive to pursue something like that, even if it could be done.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

not initially, but now its by design

 

[CornBogFitz]

The worst that could happen was people calling you a retard or prank calling you for the lulz. Now, people actively doxx not only you, but your work place, your family and harasses them to fire you/break contact with you.

There used to be a humors side on the internet with people fucking with eachother but now, people want to ruin your life simply because you said something they didn't like or to feel morally superior.

I believe in is there will always be violence toxicity and segregation. But it is divided in societally appropriate forms. Once society tries to ban a form of it, it simply manifests elsewhere. For example, it we go to war with a country it’s not real violence. It’s “keeping the peace” it’s not okay to segregate based on race, it’s okay to segregate on political affiliation. It’s toxic to call someone a retarded nigger faggot. It’s not toxic to try to get them fired from their job for calling you a retarded nigger faggot. Perhapse the intetnet is still toxic, but because of the internets widespread prevalence in the day to day a type of classism has formed. One that general anonymity once protected us against. Back in the day everyone was a fag. Now… “you cant talk to a mod that way!!! BAN!” “How dare you leave a negative review on this megacorperations shitty game! Copyright strike!”

 

[French Dip]

The internet should be toxic enough that you get called a fag regularly. But it should not be this existential nightmare. So basically, wall off India with a firewall, and destroy all bots, and we'll be fine again.

 

[not william stenchever]

Normies ruined the internet. If they want that whole fake smile pretending to be nice and pleasant shit they should stick to meatspace.

The internet used to be for dicks and assholes but the the pussies joined en masse (thanks Steve Jobs) and the corpos decided that it was time to smash the dicks, massage the assholes, and cater to the every whim of the pussies.

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

Normies ruined the internet. If they want that whole fake smile pretending to be nice and pleasant shit they should stick to meatspace.

I'm sorry that regular well adjusted people find it obnoxious when you scream NIGGER for the 1000th time or when you spend 5 hours sperging out about how THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THE JEWISH QUESTION, but that doesn't mean that normies ruined the internet. If anything, they made it better. Now, instead of repeating the same few inside jokes over and over, you have to be clever and original in order to appeal to them. In a way, Normie's force culture to progress as opposed to staying stagnant.

 

[BradeRunna]

I'm sorry that regular well adjusted people find it obnoxious when you scream NIGGER for the 1000th time or when you spend 5 hours sperging out about how THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THE JEWISH QUESTION, but that doesn't mean that normies ruined the internet. If anything, they made it better. Now, instead of repeating the same few inside jokes over and over, you have to be clever and original in order to appeal to them. In a way, Normie's force culture to progress as opposed to staying stagnant.

Whatever you say faggot.

Now fuck off back to Reddit.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Its supposed to be truthful, only softies and smoothies can't tell the two apart.

 

[CornBogFitz]

I'm sorry that regular well adjusted people find it obnoxious when you scream NIGGER for the 1000th time or when you spend 5 hours sperging out about how THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THE JEWISH QUESTION, but that doesn't mean that normies ruined the internet. If anything, they made it better. Now, instead of repeating the same few inside jokes over and over, you have to be clever and original in order to appeal to them. In a way, Normie's force culture to progress as opposed to staying stagnant.

Hes not wrong. While toxicity is lesser now, moderators and Jannie’s have always been around. Curation of subcultures was never impossible and that’s not what anyone is suggesting. Straw man arguments claiming people being called nigger is what people miss about the internet is a weak argument, especially when the massive censorship of online was demonstrably shown to be essentially a government psy-op. Cyberspace was once a place to escape. Now there’s a footprint. It follows you now. Why? Because it’s everywhere. It’s normal. I don’t see why proclaiming “normies ruining it” is a far reach. Perhaps you would argue the distinction that the internet itself was normalIZED. But I view it ultimately would be semantics. Unless you would care to argue a further distinction between the two. I want to make it clear I don’t see your viewpoint as dumb or want to dismiss it. This is exactly what I created the thread for. And I honestly didn’t expect to find any decanting opinion on the kiwi farms. The last stronghold of true free speech in the internet

 

[Masturbator]

What has changed is that the Internet is now treated as an extension of people's social lives rather than a shadow of it, so all the fake and gay social games of the real world are now just as present on the Internet and just as fake and gay as they are in real life. The Internet was made and is used by people. If the Internet is toxic, people are toxic.

imo internet nowadays is 4th degree simulacrum of a myth - instead of being a reflection of something irl (e.g flashmob or some cool shit pending) it became a separate reality itself so bad but its missing so much of it in absence of a reference so it had to become the reference itself

 

[gay porn is the best porn]

I will admit watching the ketchup stream live was probably the funniest goddman things I've seen on the internet.

Are any of the ketchup costume videos in this? there's 2 in there, one at the 3:15 mark and another like a minute earlier

 

[We Are The Witches]

It is what it currently is, what's supposed to be, is up for debate.

To me it's supposed to be a place of freedom of speech, but within a common sense approach (like by disallowing things like illegal content, terrorism, criminal sexual footage, etc), and people should have critical thinking when browsing. That way rumors don't get taken as fact without proper evidence, but that's a problem of how humans are and their education & honesty.

Now we instead have is a retarded society with access to it, where they have no critical thinking, where it's plagued with biases and political agendas, hatred and stupidity, mob mentality, disingenuousness, etc. But that's the consequence of users being like that, not the tool itself (like a website, although they can definitely improve through fair & just policies), i.e: people are spiteful & retarded.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

It's supposed to in the sense that it's expected and the standards of etiquette are lower, but it's really not good to be mean online. See how much people liked @Cats in part because he was NOT an asshole. These days I occasionally dial my assholishness back from a 10/10 to a 9.9/10 out of guilt.

 

[Kiwi Velour]

Big business poisoned the internet after Occupy Wall Street. Before that we had the all-inclusive information superhighway full of good intentions. Now we have fight club for retards.

 

[AbyssGazer]

Yeah, that's true. The bar of entry is now nonexistent and people who really aren't responsible or mentally well enough to handle the Internet can seek out communities of like-minded types that amplify their worst behaviors. 20 years ago, that bar of entry, however small, meant that the Internet was primarily used by young, First World men who had at least had the wits and knowledge to use a computer that wasn't designed to be as retard-friendly as possible.

A lot of the problems the Internet gets blamed for could be solved if there was a return of that type of filter to shave off people who are too dumb/naive/manipulable to handle the heat. Of course that won't ever happen, though. Pandora's Box has been opened: the Internet is too ingrained into the modern world order and not one company or government has any financial motive to pursue something like that, even if it could be done.

We unironically need to develop a captcha against retards. Would probably be easier than making one against bots. Make it similar to an IQ-test but quicker.

 

[Bonesjones]

Yes the internet should be toxic, if the internet was organic and not completely controlled then it would be less so.

Why should my life be nothing but endless clickbait and retardation from third world countries, and jews from California and New York City?

 

[Groon]

Yeah, that's true. The bar of entry is now nonexistent and people who really aren't responsible or mentally well enough to handle the Internet can seek out communities of like-minded types that amplify their worst behaviors. 20 years ago, that bar of entry, however small, meant that the Internet was primarily used by young, First World men who had at least had the wits and knowledge to use a computer that wasn't designed to be as retard-friendly as possible.

A lot of the problems the Internet gets blamed for could be solved if there was a return of that type of filter to shave off people who are too dumb/naive/manipulable to handle the heat. Of course that won't ever happen, though. Pandora's Box has been opened: the Internet is too ingrained into the modern world order and not one company or government has any financial motive to pursue something like that, even if it could be done.

Should we came back to glorious DOS days to prevent retards to access internet?

 

[Vonel]

Are any of the ketchup costume videos in this? there's 2 in there, one at the 3:15 mark and another like a minute earlier

Yeah those are them, not really funny out of context but after a half an hour of kids saying nigger the gems were a breath of fresh air.
Like I said, real creepy a guy was encouraging teenagers to act like that while he was in his twenties. I remember now CP was a problem in his discords because he kept having to delete them for it.

preservetube. Another compilation of weird shit