Is the Pendulum Swing Real Or Just Cope

As others have pointed out the notion of a political pendulum presumes a political binary which is dumb. On the other hand the idea that this system will collapse and swing back to a more "natural" state seems plausible. I've got a theory that humanity goes through cycle of degeneracy, where we forget why we have certain traditions, indulge those vices, collapse because of it and re-learn why we didn't do that shit. The current system is held together by duct tape and doesn't even work. Even with all the modern brainwashing technologies at their disposal people still aren't ok with trannys. Hating trannys and other assorted freaks is the natural state of people, it will return once this farce of a system implodes.

I don't know where that collapse will lead to specifically, except that it will involve a mountain of corpses. That much is certain.
 
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I don't think it's completely without basis in fact, but it ignores certain realities about how the system is set up to favor the left. I do remember getting the impression that traditional values were starting to make a comeback in the early-mid 2000s, but I seriously doubt things would have been allowed to remain that way for very long - not that it really mattered in the end, seeing how Bush Jr's general incompetence pushed the pendulum back the other way at lightning speed.
 
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Cope.

The people who talk about pendulums are the guys who think Republicans winning the House means the pendulum is swinging back. Or a random ass school district banning CRT, even if 99.9% of the other districts are moving down the opposite route.

If we use this pendulum model, it’s only been going in one direction since World War II ended. The pendulum is more likely to snap and break off rather than swing back the other way.
 
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I'd only apply it to single issues.

NeoGAF Lurker said:
If we use this pendulum model, it’s only been going in one direction since World War II ended. The pendulum is more likely to snap and break off rather than swing back the other way.
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Judicial philosophy in regards to regulation vs. legislation definitely changed. Arguably it's only because it benefits people with money. The fuckery that was going on with title IX is over. The president is supposed to sign the orders, not publish "guidance" the courts in liberal areas point to as meaningful in any sense. When a title ix case makes it to this supreme court, I'm sure they'll dunk on the white house for using bostock as justification for "gender identity" despite Kavenaugh saying not to use it that way in the opinion.

No more gender studies title ix kangaroo courts.
 
People seem to forget that things don't stay the same forever, and to be perfectly honest; leftism just isn't working for most people.
 
It's less likely than the destruction of the white race and America turning into Haiti, or complete nuclear annihilation of the world.
 
I don’t think the pendulum will swing back to Reagan conservatives or something like that.

But my favorite doom prophet is Peter Turchin, who uses mathematical modeling to trace historical arcs and project them into the future. His book Ages of Discord is pretty readable for the layretard such as myself.

Basically his idea is that societies go through cycles of growth and collapse that are much like the boom-bust population dynamics of various species. You can get pretty close to predicting the crisis period because it is caused by the same things:

One, elite overproduction. The society produces too many highly educated elite aspirants relative to the number of jobs and social positions available to absorb them. As there are more and more surplus elites, some of them will aggressively ape the social norms of the actual elites, and some will eventually become what he calls “counter elites”. This process naturally leads to polarization and elite infighting.

Two, popular immiseration. It is materially harder to survive as an ordinary working person than it used to be. Turchin says that often during a crisis, counter elites will ally with angry populists.

Three, loss of faith in government institutions, including currency and debt.

You can see how increasing popular anger, too many culturally elite but underemployed “elites” and some kind of debt crisis could cause things to pop off. Turchin predicted the US unrest of 2020 long before it was really visible, because to him it isn’t really about specifics, just pressures.

I think America is already collapsing and the pendulum swing is the least of our worries. But another doom prophet, John Michael Greer, says that civilizations tend to collapse quite slowly, something like 250 years. So you might already be living through the collapse, and yet it might not be very visible. You just adapt to the weird new normal where there’s no beef and gas is seven bucks a gallon.
 
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Cope. Zoomers are the worst generation that ever existed in the history of the world, so there's no reason to think the next generation isn't going to be even worse. No idea how they'll top the zoomer perm, though.


 
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Doomers are hilarious. Every week the world is ending for one reason or another.

Every time the goal post moves when the world doesn't explode.

My advice to you op is get off the internet and start living your life.

That or embrace the rope.

Either way you won't be missed.
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That’s actually really resounding but to the point advice that I needed, oddly enough I thank you for it. Time to feed some birds.
 
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Reminder that muh pendulum purportedly started swinging back in 2016.

Yep. You're 6 years later. Still asking when it's happening.
 
The pendulum can swing but people underestimate the permanent change the left can have.

The 1980s is an example of the pendulum swinging more rightward, but racism was still not in fashion with mainstream culture and the sexual revolution had permanent effects, there was still a lot of sex and nudity in 80s films and every video store had the curtained section, not to mention the sexual vibes of MTV, it wasn't exactly like the 1950s even if some of the vibes of then was brought back.

The 2000s had people grow tired of 90s style political correctness but was still a decade riddled with Bush Derangement Syndrome which has permanently set the tone for how the left will react to any Republican President.

Some of the changes the 2010s inflicted will be permanent even if things do get better, minorities will always feel more comfortable being racist against whites than they used to, women more comfortable with being sexist against men etc, it's never gonna be able to go back to those days where Americans were genuinely colorblind, you'll never be able to look at a black person the same way you did in say 2005.

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Reminder that muh pendulum purportedly started swinging back in 2016.

Yep. You're 6 years later. Still asking when it's happening.
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Which is ironic because all 2016 did was make the pendulum swing 1000 times more leftward, Woksters in 2015 were boyscouts compared to how they were post 2016.
 
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I don't know about the full pendulum swinging back, but counter cultures are by nature created in response to the status quo. Sometimes this counter culture influences things going forward. In the 90s you could rock against societal values by going atheist edgelord. What will kids today with leftist values as the norm do to rebel, I wonder?
 
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Nowadays, I like to view the pendulum swing the same way as the singularity.

It will either:

A) Not happen at all, or;

B) It will happen, but not in the way we expected or wanted it to.

If it's B, then the pendulum swing certainly won't be what we hoped for. Instead, we'll get something that dashes our expectations.

However, I would love to be wrong! If THE pendulum swing we're all expecting actually happens, then that will be worth celebrating!
 
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