Is the pro-gun movement done for?

[Skitarii]

I remember a time when most zoomers were libertarians who owned or at least wanted to own a gun. Nowadays, it seems gen z is cucked to all hell that they'd most likely snitch on you to the feds if they caught you owning a gun

 

[JJLiautaud]

No its not in fact gun rights are slowly expanding despite lefty malding

 

[Chilson]

The states (and their people) have been getting increasingly more pissed with a massive and over bearing federal government for the last few decades and have only expanded gun rights along with other local and state legislation as a result.

The only places regressing their gun rights are shithole cities and ultra blue states like California, the places where gun violence are ironically (and predictably) more likely to occur because surprise criminals don't care about the legality of guns when they are using them for crime.

They are also the only locations where the people are so cucked and outright moronic that they want even harsher restrictions on guns.

 

[jje100010001]

No its not in fact gun rights are slowly expanding despite lefty malding

I think gun rights is one of those legitimate grassroots movements that are having successes as per county and state?

Seriously though, I've seen postulations that the NRA being such a prominent meme target is one of the reasons why the movement has been has been successful since it sucks up all the attention from other groups.

 

[Tism the Return]

Everyone still faps to church porn, don't worry. Pro-nun will never die.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Are you fucking kidding me? With all the tards wanting to defund and abolish the police, and a senile pedo grabber in office now, sales are going to explode in the next several weeks.

The states (and their people) have been getting increasingly more pissed with a massive and over bearing federal government for the last few decades and have only expanded gun rights along with other local and state legislation as a result.

The only places regressing their gun rights are shithole cities and ultra blue states like California, the places where gun violence are ironically (and predictably) more likely to occur because surprise criminals don't care about the legality of guns when they are using them for crime.

They are also the only locations where the people are so cucked and outright moronic that they want even harsher restrictions on guns.

I hate cities and I would never live in CA or NY. Also, their crime is out of control, guns or not.

 

[Ser Prize]

After the summer of love many states have quietly passed constitutional carry laws and constitutional carry zones. They can see the writing on the wall and know something is coming.

 

[DD214BRUH]

The anti-gun fags lost the argument after the summer of 2020 “mostly peaceful” riots. Every single person in my life has asked for suggestions on their first handgun/rifle. Handguns are almost always the ones that are asked about first, usually by women. It’s a 50/50 split with men if it’s a handgun or rifle. Even literal grannies are now either in the process of or are already packing heat, and getting range time to keep competent.

TL;DR
No, the pro-gun movement is gaining steam and is not going to die for the next several generations.

 

[Liber Pater]

Public opinion waxes and wanes, as do legislative priorities, but looking at the big picture, the pro-2A lobby has made a lot of gains over the past 20, 10, even 5 years.
That being said, it is unclear how long this streak will continue. A lot of the low-hanging fruit (e.g. permitless carry and sanctuary county/state status in red states) have been plucked, and demographics are working against us.
The right to bear arms is very rooted in Anglo-European thought, the Euro-American historical experience, and the Aryan mode of being. It can exist among non-European peoples, but they generally don't see it as a fundamental or inalienable right to the extent that Euro-Americans do. You will get sudden jumps in non-White gun ownership in response to rising crime, riots, etc, and this will naturally give a boost to their support for gun rights. However, they are coming to support it for different reasons. Reactionary support based on present needs is different than support based on transcendent principles. When the initial stimulus (e.g. a crime wave) is removed, then reactionary attitudes may soften or dissipate. Support based on principles stemming from one's worldview or mode of being can be reinforced in reaction to stimuli like riots or crime, but will not be weakened when the stimulus is gone.
It is also true that people who come to support gun rights for the pragmatic purpose of protecting their own newly-acquired guns (which were acquired for the pragmatic purpose of protecting them from social instability) cannot be relied upon to resist the full-spectrum of anti-gun legislative assaults. For example, the previously anti-gun guy who just bought a shotgun for home defense because his neighborhood is becoming unsafe may not care about whether an AR owner can own 30-round mags. A non-dissident gun owner may not care if a political dissident is red-flagged. They may even support these things as "common sense" gun policy. But to retain our gun rights, we have to be able to consistently resist ALL of these attempts to chip away at the 2nd Amendment. Otherwise, firearm ownership will die a slow death by 1,000 regulatory cuts.
In order to mount this kind of comprehensive defense of our rights, we need people who oppose all of these infringements on principle rather than personal self-interest.
I.e. you need White people.
This idea is supported by polling and electoral data (which show a fairly consistent and sizeable racial divide on gun-related issues) as well as recent history. How could Virginia of all places become an anti-gun state? Demographics.
That's what 2A advocates are up against, and the movement as a whole does not seem adept enough at tackling racial/demographic issues. And even if it was, there are limits to how successful you can be in such a demographically unfavorable environment. On a federal level, our luck is going to run out (some would say it already is).
The best we can hope for in a more long-term sense is that White-majority pockets of the country can resist the feds effectively enough to render federal impositions unenforceable. I.e. disentanglement of fed and state/local law enforcement and de facto nullification of federal laws.
However, eventually even that will stop being demographically feasible if the Great Replacement continues.
The only permanent solution is some form of national separation and the establishment of a sovereign Euro-American homeland.

 

[cuddle striker]

Fuck the NRA, but gun ownership is (fortunately) expanding and will not stop doing that.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Fuck the NRA, but gun ownership is (fortunately) expanding and will not stop doing that.

The NRA only cares about money they don't do shit otherwise. At least the ignorant bugmen target that instead of anything of value.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

Public opinion waxes and wanes, as do legislative priorities, but looking at the big picture, the pro-2A lobby has made a lot of gains over the past 20, 10, even 5 years.
That being said, it is unclear how long this streak will continue. A lot of the low-hanging fruit (e.g. permitless carry and sanctuary county/state status in red states) have been plucked, and demographics are working against us.
The right to bear arms is very rooted in Anglo-European thought, the Euro-American historical experience, and the Aryan mode of being. It can exist among non-European peoples, but they generally don't see it as a fundamental or inalienable right to the extent that Euro-Americans do.
This is reflected in polling and electoral data, which show a sizeable racial divide on gun-related issues, as well as recent history. How could Virginia of all places become an anti-gun state? Demographics.
That's what 2A advocates are up against, and the movement as a whole does not seem adept enough at tackling racial/demographic issues. And even if they were, there are limits to how successful you can be in such a demographically unfavorable environment. On a federal level, our luck is going to run out (some would say it already is).
The best we can hope for in a more long-term sense is that White-majority pockets of the country can resist the feds effectively enough to render federal impositions unenforceable. I.e. disentanglement of fed and state/local law enforcement and de facto nullification of federal laws.
However, eventually even that will stop being demographically feasible if the Great Replacement continues.
The only permanent solution is some form of national separation and the establishment of a sovereign Euro-American homeland.

Pew pew.

 

[gang weeder]

I believe there were record gun sales in 2020 and 2021 so no.

 

[AgriDrThunder]

They can take my NRA membership card when they pull it from my cold, puckered anus.

 

[Erika Furudo]

The recent school shooting had police stand outside a school where children were being murdered, because they were afraid to go in and risk getting shot. This event single-handedly killed the argument that you don't need guns because you have the police and only they should have guns.
I'm not American and the shooting literally convinced me of the old pro-gun "Schools are targeted because they are unarmed" stance, I unironically think American teachers, janitors, lunch ladies, etc should all be allowed to carry guns because the staff clearly cared more about protecting the kids than the police did.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

No, it isn't. Most Gen Z people weren't even adults a few years ago. Gen z would be in their early 20's and the rest of them can't even vote because they are all below the age of 18. Also young people are notorious for not voting. Your average voter is 65+. The lower you go below 65 the less likely people are too vote. Below 40 and 35 it's basically non-existent. You can ask Bernie how depending on the youth vote went. I don't think anyone even bothers to appeal to young voters anymore. I was 20 the first time I voted. The polling place is not full of the young hip cool people. It's full of a bunch older people. You definitely feel out of place when you are voting under the age of 40. It's a weird feeling.

The Democrats will never take guns away because they can't. Just like they can't ban cars from the roads. But like cars they can make guns more expensive to own and operate. This is what Obammy did during his presidency with the government buying up ammunition to make it harder to find and expensive. Don't want people driving those dirty gasoline powered cars anymore? Just make oil and gas expensive. Make driving too costly. Force them to buy electric cars or at least try.

There are a lot of democrats out there that own guns as well. The democrats run into this issue a lot. Not all the democrats will go along with their crazy anti-gun agendas. Also, with the midterms coming up and a massive loss for the democrats seeming likely they won't do anything much with guns. Like I said a lot of democrats own guns as well. Screwing around with guns this close to the midterms wouldn't help them much.

 

[Kuchipatchi]

I'm not American and the shooting literally convinced me of the old pro-gun "Schools are targeted because they are unarmed" stance, I unironically think American teachers, janitors, lunch ladies, etc should all be allowed to carry guns because the staff clearly cared more about protecting the kids than the police did.

Damn, thats sad. People are too cowardice to do the basic act of provide security to schools. How much of an angry incel does someone need to be in order to risk shooting a school with armed staff?

And @ OP, I do understand the frustration about gun rights right now. It does seem rather gloomy but it's going to be OK. Don't worry, mate!

 

[ModernaisaQuango]

If we don't gain control of the information warfare and information infrastructure there will be much more 'done for' than just weapons. The conglomeration of media into a handful of individuals has consolidated an information monopoly.

Reality vs bias and lies is increasingly becoming undiscernible, especially for the younger generations. They're playing the generational game, your kids and grandkids will lay their weapons at the stairsteps of their state capitol and put their collars on willingly, 'for public health, conformity and communion.'

 

[draggs]

Short answer no

Long answer nope

 

[GuntPunt]

Ironically people said the anti-gun movement was dead for a generation in 2020 due to the riots.

As people said already, the biggest counter to "Why do you need a gun when you have police?" is pointing to Uvalde and Parkland and asking "If the police are incompetent, how am I supposed to defend myself?"