Is There a God? - Lol

[Monuklear]

How can God not exist when Leviticus dedicated pages to God's barbecue recipe

God really loves the smell of roasted pigeon.

 

[Shidoen]

Goddamn smoking that hard shit

I mean currently, he’s probably off preparing for inevitable cleansing so it’s probably no wonder he hasn’t struck holy retribution lately.

 

[Mothra1988]

I feel like it really could go either way. On one hand, the existence of a tangible deity would be difficult to reconcile with our ever-expanding observation and understanding of the universe (not to mention the whole "if God exists why do bad things happen" issue). Then again, if a deity did indeed exist, it would most likely have the capacity to exist outside of the laws of physics, or perhaps even outside of the observable universe entirely. I'd like to think that we as a species will someday know for sure whether a God exists, but for now I'm content with having to wait until I pass on to find out.

If you created an ant farm, would you sit and see what the ants do or would you create a thousand puppet strings to control what each ant does? Why would anyone logically want to do the second or think that's the logical choice?

 

[The Tall Man]

Yes, but definitely not the one the Hebrews made up those guys are a bunch of chronicle liars.

 

[Matt Damon]

An omnipotent being who created and is controlling everything at all times, but also never reveals himself to the world in any way.

It's the diametric opposite of Occam's Razor and has no explanatory power or utility in terms of ontology. It's a concept that exists as a thought-terminating cliche and ultimate appeal to authority: "do what I say because God says so".

It's the kind of thing a four-year-old would invent as an excuse for why he totally shouldn't have to go to bed.

 

[Quiet Guy]

I don't think Jesus, Moses, David ever existed.

The consensus amongst historians is that Jesus did exist. He was mentioned by the Jewish historian Josephus, as well as the Roman historian Tacitus, and others may have referenced Him as well. As far as David and Moses go, I'm not sure about specific evidence, but from what I understand, historians consider the Bible as at least fairly historically accurate for a lack of better description. That is to say, I think the non-Christians might believe that much of it is generally accurate, but is embellished.

 

[YE24]

An omnipotent being who created and is controlling everything at all times, but also never reveals himself to the world in any way.

Of all the things you could be doing, here you are on a weird web forum focused on documenting weird people. The forum's general modus operandi is to document these people and not interact with them. Is the idea that our Father behaves in similar ways so alien to you?

It's the diametric opposite of Occam's Razor

Hol' up there, pardner. You mean THIS Occam's Razor?

Occam’s razor, also spelled Ockham’s razor, also called law of economy or law of parsimony, principle stated by the Scholastic philosopher William of Ockham (1285–1347/49) that pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate, “plurality should not be posited without necessity.”

God is the ultimate application of the principle. "God did it" is the ultimate base case, where, without further necessity, it adequately explains why. If you need a more predictive model, you differentiate from "God did it". Indeed, "Western thought" as a category derives as such.

has no explanatory power or utility in terms of ontology

In the general/abstract, maybe. But that's not how the Christian faith works. John 6:29: "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." The Christian faith centers and contextualizes the Greek philosophical concept of pistis, logos, and more.

 

[Matt Damon]

God is the ultimate application of the principle. "God did it" is the ultimate base case, where, without further necessity, it adequately explains why.

If the existence of an omnipotent yet undetectable God somehow inspires fewer rather than more questions, you have an appalling dearth of curiosity.

In the general/abstract, maybe. But that's not how the Christian faith works. John 6:29: "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent." The Christian faith centers and contextualizes the Greek philosophical concept of pistis, logos, and more.

That's all well and good, but it's utterly meaningless to anyone who doesn't have that faith. The very question of "Is there a God?" presupposes that lack of faith.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Yes

Leaves room

God is the ultimate application of the principle. "God did it" is the ultimate base case, where, without further necessity, it adequately explains why.

There isn't really any other explanation of the universe without god. The only alternative "Muh randomness" is ridiculous and far stupider once you understand the sheer complexity how a number changing by 10% would mean no life would ever exist anywhere.