Is there anything wrong with genocide as a concept?

[Jhonny Jhon]

Morally speaking, I would say it's a wrong and sinful thing

But here is the thing, with all that we've seen from the USA, Brazil, and other countries with huge minority populations, it has become quite clear that minorities will end up hating the majority or at least decide to take advantage of them.

They seem to only remember the bad things, and are all very entitled because of what their ancestors were put through. This has fully convinced me that, as a leader of a nation, it's always best for that nation's future to genocide minorities.

The best way I can put this is, if you free a slave, it will never look at you as a merciful man. Instead, the slave shall only remember the whip, and its descendants will only talk and speak of the whip.

So why the hell should you let that potential enemy go away, when it could become an even greater problem for your own blood in the future?

 

[Choc]

I personally don't think genocide is acceptable, but that might just be because I'm Native and the whole history regarding that.

Genocide in of itself is of course not acceptable. Even if the group you are targeting is “inferior” we still need inferior people as the underclass of society.

Oh and by the way, having to go to School and not be a Primitive Tribal is not “genocide.”

 

[Mango Cobra]

Oh and by the way, having to go to School and not be a Primitive Tribal is not “genocide.”

Cultural genocide is absolutely a thing. The "schools" were actively trying to destroy any ties to the culture, when they werent killing children through neglect and then hiding the bodies in unmarked graves that are still being unearthed and discovered.

That isn't getting into the multiple programs where the government would snatch up native kids and give them to white parents to be raised as white in the 60s (Such as the 60s scoop) or the forced sterilization of women while hiding it from them, or banning native people's from practicing their cultural rituals, and things such as blood quantum being designed to make it so that native peoples either inbreed or are no longer considered native.

So yeah it meets the criteria of genocide.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

 

[draggs]

Why don't you go do a good day's work of shooting people lined up in front of a trench in the back of the neck and see how you feel, get back to us. Even the SuperAryan Gigachad SS men turned into a bunch of drunks because they couldn't cope with it

 

[Mango Cobra]

Why don't you go do a good day's work of shooting people lined up in front of a trench in the back of the neck and see how you feel, get back to us. Even the SuperAryan Gigachad SS men turned into a bunch of drunks because they couldn't cope with it

Because it wasn't me who had the question of "is genocide even bad, really" like I posted in the OP.

Fuck I even said "Yes it's bad"

 

[Hooked on phobics]

I've genocided fruit-flies in an apartment before, nobody from the UN came crying to me...

 

[dick brain]

It's hubristic.

We live in a delicate clockwork and things that should not exist cease to exist on their own, regardless of our meddling. Nature is much better at engineering solutions to problems than we are, and historically when we try to deviate from that we trade short-term gain for long-term, unforseen consequences.

Of course this is an anthropocentric view and you could argue that our meddling is a mechanism of nature just as much as we are, but you could say the same of our questioning of it.

 

[Choc]

Cultural genocide is absolutely a thing. The "schools" were actively trying to destroy any ties to the culture, when they werent killing children through neglect and then hiding the bodies in unmarked graves that are still being unearthed and discovered.

That isn't getting into the multiple programs where the government would snatch up native kids and give them to white parents to be raised as white in the 60s (Such as the 60s scoop) or the forced sterilization of women while hiding it from them, or banning native people's from practicing their cultural rituals, and things such as blood quantum being designed to make it so that native peoples either inbreed or are no longer considered native.

So yeah it meets the criteria of genocide.

I’ve yet to see how many of the children of these unmarked graves were killed by “neglect” or abuse, rather than something such as a typhoid/polio epidemic.

Also yeah, when you refuse to allow your child to be educated/abuse/neglect them they will be taken into a form of Foster care.

Sterilization of the Retarded/Miscreant was a normal practice that applied to all women regardless of race, it’s just that Amerindian Women experienced it at a Higher rate than White Women due to the fact the IQ of the Common Indian is nearly a full standard deviation lower than the Common White.

There is nothing inherently wrong with mandatory cultural assimilation, it depends on what Culture you see as better than the other. This happened in De-Nazification, which many people have no problem with as they abhor even the mention of National Socialism, much less its culture. Most people also consciously or not (including you) heavily prefer Modern-Industrial Society to a Hunter-Gatherer One.

 

[Doctor Love]

As long as it happens to the Anglos, don't think anyone would mind. Sink that whole gay little island to the bottom of the ocean if you have to. Except for Rowan Atkinson, he gets a free pass and a new dacha, everyone else gets to meet Spongebob.

Anti-Brit hate is fine, but what exactly makes Atkinson better than others? There are too many good shows for you to make such an abhorrent statement.

It’s a real big waste of resources even if you force the people you want to exterminate in permanent labor camps. It’s honestly just better to cut your losses and build barriers between the wants and unwanted in society.

Labour camps are generally useful for extracting some value out of the target demographic.

Having jumped down the most fucking disturbing rabbithole, it seems as if the USA has had multiple Auschwitz-style camps over its history.

https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/world-war-ii-pow-camps-in-alabama/

The World War II camp testimonies are unique - there is no other mention of Irish Wehrmacht - they seem to have died in an American camp, cause they sure as fuck didn't make it back to Ireland.

One of these sites, I found, is now home to R Kelly - the Federal Prison at Butner is purportedly built on an old WWII training camp; except the prison part of the site seemingly predates WWII, and the actual WWII training camp is several miles away.

A massive, 5000-inmate camp showed up at Butner (with very little written about it), but the roads to the area seem to go back even further.

Demographically, the USA seems to undercount its historical black population - France reported they had 15,000,000 blacks in the First World War, yet Americans now say they had only 10,000,000 blacks during the same timeframe.

This isn't surprising - Convict Leasing had a fatality rate of up to 25% and actually seems to overlap with these campsites. There is also the chain gang system, which seems to draw from the same "pool"

But the reported prisoner numbers are extremely low, with only a meagre few tens of thousands affected in total. This would imply that <1% of blacks were ever actually convicted of any crime during the whole "Leasing" timeframe. But a seemingly vast number of blacks have direct associations with this practice - their grandparents or great-grandparents.

The official fatalities for blacks in this system was 30,000 over the entire time period, according to one of the very few sources which has looked into it. But looking at the photos from the time, many of these are small farms which have hundreds of blacks working on them. I doubt they were getting transported across the entire South - it seems like only a small percentage of those in these "chain gangs" and "convict leasing programs" were actually criminals. There's a lot of women in the photos, too, and the actual number of black women convicted of any offense during that time period is extremely low.

In short, fuck knows how many blacks died but it's probably a lot more than 30,000.

 

[Luke-Warm Tampon Tea]

Genocide is just the UN's way to knee-cap the powerful against the weak. No one with actual power gives a half squirt of piss about their OWN citizens and that's a necessary trait in leadership on that level.
It's literally impossible for a leader to care about the individual lives of every single person under their government, and it's impractical to treat every single group of individuals as equally valuable in regards to their utility in achieving the goals of the government. A good State utilizes the citizens like units. Blocks of human capital and shuffles them around the geopolitical playground to achieve goals. A good AND efficient government can also recognize the utility in making some of those blocks redundant for the overall health of the social organism.
How great would it be if we lived in a world where niggers could be evaluated for their utility objectively, deemed unfit for service towards a larger social goal, and retired as a race. That would be amazing.
Moreover, any citizen who actually gives a shit about their country like so many people pretend to do SHOULD volunteer for euthanasia when their usefulness has ended or if their selfish, individualistic goals come into conflict with the objective goals of the State

but that's the irony. Even the most bleeding heart, soft bellied, degenerate subhuman of a liberal polesmoker wouldn't volunteer for social deletion if it meant achieving their stated individual goals of improving living conditions or providing some welfare state programs to decent people, because they don't give a fuck about anything other than how the system can benefit them
and people like that should be used as test subjects for the genocide machines before we get to the real work of de-niggerfying the political machinery.


Tl;DR, no. There's nothing wrong with genocide and it's a useful tool for cleaning out social redundancies and ensuring that civilizations stay on track for development towards higher, better, goals.
A world without legal genocide is a world where the lowest common denominator dominates the political landscape and long term goals that would actually improve, not just nations, civilizations, or races but the entire world overall get replaced with temporary goals like teaching niggers how to read.

 

[Doctor Love]

How great would it be if we lived in a world where niggers could be evaluated for their utility objectively, deemed unfit for service towards a larger social goal, and retired as a race. That would be amazing.

well you tried, it seems like your country was too weak to even genocide properly without getting caught up in sucking black cock.

So you stopped at somewhere up to 5,000,000 - god damn, I can't look at Americans as a proper country. The Germans kept at it until they were stopped, while you guys just got bored and gave up. Even when you're evil you're still fat and lazy.

 

[Luke-Warm Tampon Tea]

well you tried, it seems like your country was too weak to even genocide properly without getting caught up in sucking black cock.

So you stopped at somewhere up to 5,000,000 - god damn, I can't look at Americans as a proper country. The Germans kept at it until they were stopped, while you guys just got bored and gave up. Even when you're evil you're still fat and lazy.

That's what happens when a bunch of faggots decide to make up imaginary moralities to justify hating Europe and accidentally let retards and faggots "vote"

 

[Doctor Love]

That's what happens when a bunch of faggots decide to make up imaginary moralities to justify hating Europe and accidentally let retards and faggots "vote"

You know, during this I read about America and the Armenian Genocide.

America enthusiastically supported Turkey's objectives, while also calling it a genocide, then invited them to NATO in 52.

I only checked because the Armenians were an example of renting out groups of a certain ethnic group as forced labour. Then I find Americans enthusiastically applauding it at the time - the High Commissioner for Turkey, Mark Bristol, enthusiastically supported the genocide of Greeks and Armenians.

There wasn't some "other" story here, either - the previous diplomat tried to help Armenians, so the USA replaced him with a fucking Fleet Admiral and provided security for Turkey during their genocides.

 

[Doctor Love]

America's role in Turkey is fascinating!

How has this man remained obscure in American history? Why do you seem to be so dead-set on random nobodies from the 1800s when this fuckin guy was the most important American in the Middle East's entire history?



Welp, while trying to figure out if America killed off a lot of blacks in the 1910s, I learned that Americans refused to rescue any Greek or Armenian refugees at Smyrna, citing their wish to appease the Turks (since America had actually not fought Turkey, despite ostensibly being an Entente member, and had never actually intended to fight Turkey) - despite this, they parked around 12-16 Destroyers, several Subchasers and literally thousands of American troops were in the harbour during this.

They literally sat in the harbour, watching Turkish soldiers rape and murder Christians, and chose to play their music louder. The Turks pushed thousands of refugees into the harbour, and Americans sat and just ignored it

In short, yes, you can get away with open genocide if you are willing to side with the USA.

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

He seems like the kind of guy who'd try and make his own adrenochrome in his bathtub.

Making adrenochrome is only bad if you're trying to circumvent your own mortality. Bitch I torture children for the fun of it and pour it out the window when I'm done

 

[Stan]

Yeah even God abandoned this, haven't you heard the end of the story of Noah? God promises not to exterminate life on earth with a massive flood.

Genocide as I understand it needs to involve systematic murder or compulsory sterilization. I'm sure you're aware that the Ten Commandments forbids murder. However, and if you read a little further at the conclusion of the Noah story, we find that God also gave all humans and animals of the earth and sea a solemn covenant, and even a list of Seven Noahide Laws which bear a resemblance to the Ten Commandments:

God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you shall rest on every animal of the earth, and on every bird of the air, on everything that creeps on the ground, and on all the fish of the sea; into your hand they are delivered. Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; and just as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. Only, you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. For your own lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning: from every animal I will require it and from human beings, each one for the blood of another, I will require a reckoning for human life.
Whoever sheds the blood of a human,
by a human shall that person's blood be shed;
for in his own image
God made humankind.
And you, be fruitful and multiply, abound on the earth and multiply in it."
Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him, "As for me, I am establishing my covenant with you and your descendants after you, and with every living creature that is with you, the birds, the domestic animals, and every animal of the earth with you, as many as came out of the ark. I establish my covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of a flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." God said, "This is the sign of the covenant that I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all future generations: I have set my bow in the clouds, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. When the bow is in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth." God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth." [Genesis 9:1-17]

So, notably, the seven Noahide laws apply to animals as well as people. And God explicitly forbids murdering other people ("For your own lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning"), and states that those who do no comply will face capital punishment (it's implied this judgement is levied by a court.)
Additionally, when God says "Only, you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood"; he's specifically banning the practice of cutting the limbs off a living animal and eating them piece by piece, or taking blood from an animal and using it for nourishment. But we can also interpret this commandment as a prohibition of cruel and unusual punishments and a prohibition against animal cruelty.

SO, whereas:
1. God specifically decries the murder of human beings by other human beings, and
2. God specifically decries the cruel treatment of human beings and animals, which would include castration/sterilization of human beings in order to wipe their race off the earth.

then, it would stand to reason that God would condemn the act of genocide.

But if by genocide you mean there are too many white feminists on X posting messages supportive of Arab refugees, or that Black History Month is literally killing off your culture, or that affirmative action in education and employment is white genocide, God advises you to grow a pair and stop whinging.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

not for vegetable-level tards and pedos

 

[Fried-Rice12]

If someone killed off all the gypsies there would be loud cheering from many corners of Europe and they would be hailed as a hero.

 

[Stan]

If someone killed off all the gypsies there would be loud cheering from many corners of Europe and they would be hailed as a hero.

Counterpoint: If anyone lays a hand on AgendaPoster I will fucking murder them.

 

[The Ugly One]

Genocide doesn't actually mean killing every last man, woman, and child, it means ending the ethnic group identity. For example, the Spanish ended the Aztecs as a discernible group but did not actually kill them all. If a few cannibalistic savages are squatting on a vast sea of natural resources and cannot be dealt with in a reasonable way, abolishing them as a people is justified.

A lot of "genocides" on the American continent also amounted to killing a dozen people and moving the rest somewhere else, which caused group cohesion to break down quickly. When your tribe is all of fifty Indians, anything you do is going to end up being a genocide.