Is using adblock the same as piracy?

[hooboy]

Nope. I get access to the video for free. It's my choice to watch the video or not, or just to watch parts of it. There is no obligation, legaly or othervise, that makes me watch the ads. If he wants me to pay, put a paywall. He chose to make it free, and chose to put it on a platform where you can easily skip ads and sponsored segments. That's on him.

YouTube, as a service, is intended to have ads on it, and they make money from it. When you use an extension or software to remove these ads, neither Google or the creator make money.

Effectively, this is media piracy, I'm fine with that and I'm not going to turn it off.

Question, how does this caveat work if Youtube just decides to not give you an ad to watch? That happens. Is Youtube forcing you to pirate then?

Then the video isn't monetized and no one makes money, that's YouTube's decision.

 

[Pissmaster]

Just look at how stupid this take is:


I wonder if Linus would throw a fit if we were watching Cirque du Soleil at home on TV, and I muted it and looked down at my phone when the commercials came on.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Then the video isn't monetized and no one makes money, that's YouTube's decision.

So it's piracy when I skip the creators ads that he wanted me to watch, but its not piracy when Youtube forces me to skip those ads? That doesn't really make sense to me.

YouTube, as a service, is intended to have ads on it,

Less than 80000 channels out of 51 million (that's about 0.16%) have ads. Considering that, I don't think you can honestly say that.

When you use an extension or software to remove these ads, neither Google or the creator make money.

Google makes money regardless. If the creator wants me to pay for his content, he should paywall it. Complaining that people are watching your free content for free is stupid.

Effectively, this is media piracy,

That's silly.

 

[Pee Cola]

Google makes money regardless. If the creator wants me to pay for his content, he should paywall it. Complaining that people are watching your free content for free is stupid.

It's not like Linus doesn't have his own paywall or anything.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I only give my posts away for free because I expect people to read them from start to finish and agree with them. If you use them some other way, you're pretty much stealing from me.

 

[Frail Snail]

Just look at how stupid this take is:
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I wonder if Linus would throw a fit if we were watching Cirque du Soleil at home on TV, and I muted it and looked down at my phone when the commercials came on.

Rossman's video response references this. He brings up TV ads and commercial skippers on VCRs or taping a program to skip through them. The difference between then and now is that ad companies know when you've avoided their cancer. AdNauseam to the rescue.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

Just look at how stupid this take is:
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I wonder if Linus would throw a fit if we were watching Cirque du Soleil at home on TV, and I muted it and looked down at my phone when the commercials came on.

Hell just watch sportsball with all the takeout you can get your hands on. Even if you watch a legal stream, the unauthorized outside food should trigger his balls off.

Make sure to manspread the food waaaaaay beyond what you'd be allowed at a proper venue too. That way you're practically pirating 3 people's worth of concessions.

 

[hooboy]

So it's piracy when I skip the creators ads that he wanted me to watch, but its not piracy when Youtube forces me to skip those ads? That doesn't really make sense to me.

Less than 80000 channels out of 51 million (that's about 0.16%) have ads. Considering that, I don't think you can honestly say that.

Google makes money regardless. If the creator wants me to pay for his content, he should paywall it. Complaining that people are watching your free content for free is stupid.

That's silly.

idk man we’re just re stating the same points again and again, agree to disagree i guess

anyway linuscuck tips was refused entrance to cirque de soleil because he had adblocker on his phone what a shame!

 

[Useful_Mistake]

idk man we’re just re stating the same points again and again, agree to disagree i guess

Fair enough. Thank you for having this discussion with me.

 

[khaine]

The other reason to block ads is that they are a large vector for malware.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Linus is a faggot shill who unironically wants "hate speech" laws, so I genuinely don't give a toss about his retarded opinions.

As someone who has defended Linus in the past, Imma gonna ask you for receipts on this one, because if you're telling the truth then that will immediately sway me to the "Linus is a faggot" crowd.

 

[Retink]

The thing is that Linus has plenty of other revenue streams. All LTT and LTT-adjacent content I've seen has some sort of ad integration, he makes money from Floatplane, he gets all this free shit from companies wanting him to shill their stuff and I'm pretty sure he does merch. About the only thing he doesn't have is a Patreon. He's obviously done OK from it, if the photo of him standing in front of his Ferrari parked out the front of his house is anything to go by.

For Linus of all people to cry poor over ad blocking says a lot about what Linus and the LTT network is really about.

In general bitching about piracy is pretty retarded, because there's nothing you can really do about it and any attempts to curb or bemoan it just makes the person bitching sound obnoxious. It's even worse when it's in relation to ad revenue as the revenue is the result of another company selling a product with your product being an advertisement delivery system for a company with a product while trying to not be a marketing agency.

More so, most of the people in a position to bitch about piracy substantially hurting their bottom line, especially by means of ad block, are big enough that they have plenty of options and opportunity to mitigate that issue.

 

[Aidan]

Why is this thread more than 1 page?

The answer is NO
/thread

 

[Amerimutt]

I don't see how it's much different from skipping the ads on a recorded TV show. Also a lot of the ads on YouTube are pure bullshit I can't be the only one who keeps getting those "Are you gay?" quiz ads on the side that no matter how many times I flag it for being irrelevant or inappropriate they still keep coming. I don't want to fucking see it.

 

[Mr.Bucket]

Even before I found about his stupid normie woke views, I've always felt linus videos were a mix of genuine enthusiasm and plain corporate sellout. No other big review channel, such as Gamers Meld or JayzTwoCents, has ever felt to me so shill-like and corporate dick-sucking. Louis Rossmann in particular genuinely seems to care about consumer rights.

The big difference is that Louis *actually works* and *is a positive contribution to his area*. LTT is just a entertainment show with a small hint of actual tech news. It's like how LaCroix tastes like if a piece of fruit was 5 miles away from the can when it was made.

It's all low quality click-bait garbage.

I go to Gamer's Nexus for computer tech videos. Their severe autism levels of graphs and numbers are a beautiful thing.

 

[seri0us]

The big difference is that Louis *actually works* and *is a positive contribution to his area*. LTT is just a entertainment show with a small hint of actual tech news. It's like how LaCroix tastes like if a piece of fruit was 5 miles away from the can when it was made.

It's all low quality click-bait garbage.

I go to Gamer's Nexus for computer tech videos. Their severe autism levels of graphs and numbers are a beautiful thing.

I used to click on their videos if it was some retardation that interested me like "watercooling this laptop because we can"

Now it's just shit like this:

"Well a tornado might've just destroyed my house but at least I can play Quake for 15 minutes on some gaymer laptop"

 

[Fomo Hoire]

"Well a tornado might've just destroyed my house but at least I can play Quake for 15 minutes on some gaymer laptop"

Ffs I'm pretty sure we had an actual discussion about emergency tech here somewhere in the bat flu thread.

Yes, there is tech that's valuable in an emergency. No, it's not a powerhouse.

Get an e-reader with an offline stockpile of guidebooks. Amish, Army, and Boyscout material was recommended. The most valuable materials should be printed on real paper. The e-reader should value battery life over speed, but can be supplemented with a battery pack.

Depending on how bad you expect things to be (do you need to flee from peacefully protesting joggers?) maybe a local map of the area - which should also be printed on paper - and encrypted backups of your most important files. The latter of which you should always have backed up at more than one physical location anyways.

While this should have a case of some sort, it doesn't need a full on shilled bag.

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

Ffs I'm pretty sure we had an actual discussion about emergency tech here somewhere in the bat flu thread.

Yes, there is tech that's valuable in an emergency. No, it's not a powerhouse.

Get an e-reader with an offline stockpile of guidebooks. Amish, Army, and Boyscout material was recommended. The most valuable materials should be printed on real paper. The e-reader should value battery life over speed, but can be supplemented with a battery pack.

Depending on how bad you expect things to be (do you need to flee from peacefully protesting joggers?) maybe a local map of the area - which should also be printed on paper - and encrypted backups of your most important files. The latter of which you should always have backed up at more than one physical location anyways.

While this should have a case of some sort, it doesn't need a full on shilled bag.

You know what I don't see in any of those bags of his? A fucking sewing needle & some god damn thread. If you're really putting together something resembling a bug out bag you should have a sewing needle & some god damn thread. You won't have a macys if a hurricane hits cause the damn macy's might also have fallen. Instead he's using this to shill a shitty bag or put that aya neo or whatever shitty chinese gaming pc in the video just because "COOL GOIS"

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

ads and promotions baked into the videos ON TOP of ad sense garbage

I hear you, check out SponsorBlock to remove that shit.

That would be the fork of youtube dl known as yt-dlp. Regular youtube dl is slow as hit now & doesn't have sponsor block.

they've updated recently-ish and it's working fine for me now, but yeah imma stick with yt-dlp.

 

[BelUwUga]

I could at least see the argument against something like a PiHole theoretically. But if my client-side filtering with a browser add-on catches it, that's out of their hands and control entirely. It would be just for convenience but bad actors abusing ad networks has made it a safety imperative. You can block adblock users. You can host and control ad space, forcing adblock users to manually block the element. If this business model loses viability, it's their problem and not mine.