Is Welsh really a language?

[Agent Abe Caprine]

It looks more like some kid got bored and tried inventing a language. I have trouble believing anything Welsh is real.

 

[Skitarii]

Sir, english is barely a language

 

[Red Hood]

Yt ys! Yt Rwllyelly ys!

 

[Shidoen]

Dyn Du

 

[L50LasPak]

The way I understand it is that somewhere around the 1800s in Victorian Britain there was this weird movement to revive old dead languages throughout the Isles even though for centuries the filthy Angloids had scorned all other cultures and languages on their shitty island chain. Gaelic was the most complete, while Celtic had to be pieced together from various disagreeing sources, and Welsh was borderline forgotten and had to be reassembled from old bibles and hearsay into the modern abomination it is now. To some extent or another apparently all three of them are crap invented by Victorian era linguists and rich hobbyists, but Welsh certainly appears to be the most nonsensical and fake of them.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

In the same way Latin is

 

[Retink]

No, I think it's just a joke the Welsh play on outsiders.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

It's nothing but rough transcriptions of the various grunts guys named Daffyd and Llewellyn make as they have sex with sheep.

 

[K-Hole]

Welsh is a Germanic language. If you studied linguistics, you would know this. English is a Germanic language too.

Then again, Welsh isn't a Germanic language. It is a celtic language. p-Celtic, if you care. Fucked if I know.

The English did try to snuff it out though. See the Welsh Not - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

I found a lot of words and pronunciations to be very similar in both Welsh and German. Spellings too.

Welsh isn't spoken anymore in the South of the country, but in the North it is thriving, almost having a renaissance of sorts, in fact. It is a beautiful language when spoken properly. Andrew Eldritch of Sisters of Mercy fame is a big fan of it, and he should know, having studied Chinese at Uni in Leeds. Go figure.

Dialects are a big thing in Wales whether you speak Welsh or not. It is possible to tell what town someone comes from by their accent. You only need to travel 5 miles out and it changes. Each of them have their unique identifier. But you probably need to have been brought up in Wales to tell the difference. Shibboleths abound.

A bastardisation of the accent as it is spoken in English is happening in South Wales. Today, someone from Swansea might even sound like someone from Liverpool when it comes to totally fucking offensive ways of speaking. Lots of Chs and Achs, and that's just in every day usage. Not pretty. The Cockney accent might have its particular charm, but these accents are just downright abusive. They will continue to go that way though, and in a few decades you won't even have a similar accent to compare.

You are taught Welsh in South Wales as you are also taught French. But no one expects you to speak it and family members prefer English anyway. North Wales keeps the fires burning. Kudos to them for that.

Reading and pronouncing Welsh words is notoriously difficult. It contains certain sounds that are about impossible for non speakers to imitate. Gwernllwynchwyth, being one of them. The double LL that makes up the first letters of LLanelli is a particular shibboleth.

An interesting aside if you study linguistics is the fact that all babies, when crying and mewling, can pronounce every phonetic known to man in every single language. This is why a baby born in Russia will speak Russian or if in China will speak Chinese or if in North Wales, will speak Welsh. For example. There is not a sound that the baby can not make, and that is why a lot of what the baby gives out sounds like noise. It is not. It is just merely going through the available options that the human tracht/trachea can mimic. Any baby can speak any language if it is exposed to it early enough. We only find these particular word formations offensive as we become prejudiced in later years. See my opinion on the Liverpudlian accent.

Also the fact that the whole Welsh language movement was hijacked several years back to do with particular political BS, and that the Welsh got given their own language channel: S4C. Well, that's another story for another day.

Welsh is a beautiful language. But it is as much game and fodder for political machinations as any other dying language, that must be preserved.

You can learn it later in life, but it is much easier if you at least learned to read it (even if you can't speak it) in earlier life. English is difficult, but Welsh is harder. The fact that it has been bastardised along the way does not help.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

The way I understand it is that somewhere around the 1800s in Victorian Britain there was this weird movement to revive old dead languages throughout the Isles even though for centuries the filthy Angloids had scorned all other cultures and languages on their shitty island chain. Gaelic was the most complete, while Celtic had to be pieced together from various disagreeing sources, and Welsh was borderline forgotten and had to be reassembled from old bibles and hearsay into the modern abomination it is now. To some extent or another apparently all three of them are crap invented by Victorian era linguists and rich hobbyists, but Welsh certainly appears to be the most nonsensical and fake of them.

So basically it's Esperanto for sheepfuckers?

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

The way I understand it is that somewhere around the 1800s in Victorian Britain there was this weird movement to revive old dead languages throughout the Isles even though for centuries the filthy Angloids had scorned all other cultures and languages on their shitty island chain. Gaelic was the most complete, while Celtic had to be pieced together from various disagreeing sources, and Welsh was borderline forgotten and had to be reassembled from old bibles and hearsay into the modern abomination it is now. To some extent or another apparently all three of them are crap invented by Victorian era linguists and rich hobbyists, but Welsh certainly appears to be the most nonsensical and fake of them.

Welsh is a Germanic language. If you studied linguistics, you would know this. English is a Germanic language too.

Then again, Welsh isn't a Germanic language. It is a celtic language. p-Celtic, if you care. Fucked if I know.

The English did try to snuff it out though. See the Welsh Not - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

I found a lot of words and pronunciations to be very similar in both Welsh and German. Spellings too.

Welsh isn't spoken anymore in the South of the country, but in the North it is thriving, almost having a renaissance of sorts, in fact. It is a beautiful language when spoken properly. Andrew Eldritch of Sisters of Mercy fame is a big fan of it, and he should know, having studied Chinese at Uni in Leeds. Go figure.

Dialects are a big thing in Wales whether you speak Welsh or not. It is possible to tell what town someone comes from by their accent. You only need to travel 5 miles out and it changes. Each of them have their unique identifier. But you probably need to have been brought up in Wales to tell the difference. Shibboleths abound.

A bastardisation of the accent as it is spoken in English is happening in South Wales. Today, someone from Swansea might even sound like someone from Liverpool when it comes to totally fucking offensive ways of speaking. Lots of Chs and Achs, and that's just in every day usage. Not pretty. The Cockney accent might have its particular charm, but these accents are just downright abusive. They will continue to go that way though, and in a few decades you won't even have a similar accent to compare.

You are taught Welsh in South Wales as you are also taught French. But no one expects you to speak it and family members prefer English anyway. North Wales keeps the fires burning. Kudos to them for that.

Reading and pronouncing Welsh words is notoriously difficult. It contains certain sounds that are about impossible for non speakers to imitate. Gwernllwynchwyth, being one of them. The double LL that makes up the first letters of LLanelli is a particular shibboleth.

An interesting aside if you study linguistics is the fact that all babies, when crying and mewling, can pronounce every phonetic known to man in every single language. This is why a baby born in Russia will speak Russian or if in China will speak Chinese or if in North Wales, will speak Welsh. For example. There is not a sound that the baby can not make, and that is why a lot of what the baby gives out sounds like noise. It is not. It is just merely going through the available options that the human tracht/trachea can mimic. Any baby can speak any language if it is exposed to it early enough. We only find these particular word formations offensive as we become prejudiced in later years. See my opinion on the Liverpudlian accent.

Also the fact that the whole Welsh language movement was hijacked several years back to do with particular political BS, and that the Welsh got given their own language channel: S4C. Well, that's another story for another day.

Welsh is a beautiful language. But it is as much game and fodder for political machinations as any other dying language, that must be preserved.

You can learn it later in life, but it is much easier if you at least learned to read it (even if you can't speak it) in earlier life. English is difficult, but Welsh is harder. The fact that it has been bastardised along the way does not help.

I can't decide which one I should mark as the answer, so I'm going for the funnier one. K-Hole's is also great.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Sir, english is barely a language

Wrong.

English is the bukakke JAV actress of languages.