It's not actually the Jews - Hitler was wrong

I don't understand this intense need to delineate between the (mostly) non-Christian Romans, and the Christian Europe of the middle ages. Intense cruelty occurred in Rome, intense cruelty occurred in Christian Europe. Rome wasn't even really a philosophically enlightened society in the same way Ancient Greece was. Rome, the empire in particular, was basically a military dictatorship. A highly successful military dictatorship, but a military dictatorship nonetheless. Or at least something very close to that. Plenty of great advancements were made by the Romans, and plenty of great advancements were made by Christian Europeans. Two things can be true at once.
 
You might as well just write a wall of text about how grass isn't actually green- it's red. It would be just as thought out and even more entertaining.

Go read some books. The kikes are demon worshipping, kiddy sacrificing, nation destroying Satanists.

Also, a picture speaks a thousand words:

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"What are you saying- that the Vatican is run by kikes too??"

No, I'm saying that kikes, the Vatican, Freemasons, Bavarian Illuminati, Rockefellers, Rothschild's etc are just different facets of the same ancient Satanic cult.
 
Go read some books. The kikes are demon worshipping, kiddy sacrificing, nation destroying Satanists.
They literally weren't even relevant for like 1800 years.
"What are you saying- that the Vatican is run by kikes too??"
The Vatican is fairly liberal, should be obvious if the pope is talking about gender equality.
Oh holy shit you were talking about the star of David on his hat? You are one of those symbol-guys? Yes, the pope is essentially claiming his followers, the christians, are the people of god, not the Jews. By the way, Jews hate that, which you would be knowing if you'd ever read anything in your life.
"go read some books" yeah sure, I can tell you're well read.
A Star of David - IN THE VATICAN - no way dude, my mind is blown, I'm voting leftist now!
 
Kikes are basically stealth jeets. They resort to the same destructive behaviour, are equally nepotistic, have the same view that they are superior, while hating others who share it for their group, and hold eternal grudges over the slightest loss of izzat. They know what they are doing when they vote for immigration in the west while believing they deserve an ethnostate of their own.
 
same destructive behaviour, are equally nepotistic, have the same view that they are superior, while hating others who share it for their group, and hold eternal grudges over the slightest loss of izzat
Yeah, I don't disagree with that, they are ruthlessly selfish if you give them the room. But that's literally every ethnic group except modern liberal whites. And the reality is izzat, or rather Honor, used to be a concept here as well. Duelling to Death still was a huge deal in Europe in the 1700s.
The weird thing to me is not why everyone else is selfish and tribalistic, the weird thing is that Europeans suppress said Tribalism in themselves. And if I go out into the street right now and shout "we need to be more collectively selfish" the people that are going to come shout me down, are not actually Jews or Indians or whatever, they will be fellow Whites with liberal beliefs.
What I'm trying to get at with this thread, is that there is a very large fraction of white Europeans that are in favor of everything that is happening right now.
The people that are blaming Jews simply can not cope with the fact that the major problem is not one click of foreign interlopers, but their own countrymen and that said foreign interlopers only appear as a result of the weird believes that white Europeans have internalized.
 
I don't understand this intense need to delineate between the (mostly) non-Christian Romans, and the Christian Europe of the middle ages. Intense cruelty occurred in Rome, intense cruelty occurred in Christian Europe. Rome wasn't even really a philosophically enlightened society in the same way Ancient Greece was. Rome, the empire in particular, was basically a military dictatorship. A highly successful military dictatorship, but a military dictatorship nonetheless. Or at least something very close to that. Plenty of great advancements were made by the Romans, and plenty of great advancements were made by Christian Europeans. Two things can be true at once.
It's entirely happening because American online right is currently on a hate trip regarding Jews, and because Jesus was born in a Jewish society they are trying to completely disavow Christian culture. So now the entire middle ages must have been terrible because it was "jewish" while pre-Christian Rome was the best thing ever.
Just one of the many reasons why one should not take this brand of "right wingers" seriously.
 
Jews are not causing leftism, rather leftism is causing Jews to be overrepresentated everywhere. This relationship should be obvious to any rational person, because if the Jews are those amazing conspirational geniuses what on earth have they been doing the 1800 years before liberalism came around? Why is it that they only ever rise up within left wing movements?
The reality is Leftists have always loved victims, and Jews have the most victim-credits of perhaps all ethnic groups in the western world, especially after their treatment in WW2. This is also why there is no correlation between their demographic footprint and their actual cultural influence on society, because it's not the actual Jews themselves that are forcing you to worship the Holocaust, it's white european victim-loving liberals.
This is gaslighting, one of the only good things going for the Jews is that they are very diverse in thought, they think in all directions and they are very transgressive, innovative even. But the problem is they always do what benefits them, others be damned, in fact explicitly others be damned. Thats the problem, thats the thing which people have hated about Jews throughout history and where all antisemitism comes from. Ignoring the fact that Marx was Jewish, most of the people who led the vanguard for WWII and post WWII reconstructionism are Jews, Jews who saw in leftism a method to seal their interests for generations to come. Its not the other way round, Jews do whatever which helps their interests and most of them WWII stuck with leftism cause leftism rewards victims consequence free. And before that, the depression era American jews who "built" american industry, like Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel, Stan Lee, Edward Robinson and others, also saw their interests being increasingly achievable using liberalism/leftism, those interests being ethnic separatism, economic control etc. "If the goyim is preoccupied with leftism and other people fighting him, nobody will question what we have and what we do". Jews love being victims cause it gives them what they want and since leftism rewards victims, they became leftists, theyve always portrayed themselves as victims right from the time Yahweh or whoever punished them for worshipping the golden calf at Sinai.

Also your history on the Holocaust is wrong, the Holocaust wasnt even referring to the Shoah till the late 50s, it was just a English translation of the greek Holokaustos which meant burning. In fact people used it often before the Holocaust, Ive read Conan stories where Robert E Howard used it to refer to mass destruction, usually a city being destroyed or somebody being tortured and killed by mass of people. "A Holocaust" common noun. After Nuremberg and the Israeli Holocaust trials of Adolf Eichmann and Goring and such did the word come to be and initially American Zionist orgs were reluctant to adopt it, due to the fact that it might depict them as being unethical or attached to foreign interests. Sometime during the Yom Kippur war they realized that using the Holocaust as a propaganda tool netted them political power under the guise of sympathy and the rest was history. Norman Finkelstein details this in the Holocaust Industry, especially given some of his first hand accounts of living with his Holocaust survivor parents and contemporary New York Jews.

Also a lot of civil rights actions which did not explicitly involve leftism (the Anti McCarthy Movement and the Hart Cellars act) were pushed on by Jews. Ive probably rambled on too much stream of consciousness style but your assertions are just wrong, they love victimhood cause it gives them power and they align themselves with whichever movement (leftism) which does so. This is excluding all the sociopolitical reformations they did with no basis in science or reality, stuff like Franz Boas's invention of cultural relativism, the Frankfurt School Jews and their cultural marxism theory, Stephen Jay Gould's nonsense studies, whole host of shit. No end to Jews in American social sciences concocting crap to keep goyim divided.
 
I think the most obvious explanation is that Jews simply act, as a collective, in their own self-interest. Whether they use capitalism, or communism, or whateverism, doesn't really make a whole lot of difference. It's just a means to an ends.

At the same time, there are some otherwise well-meaning whites being taken advantage of, as well as some who are openly sympathetic.

Around the outskirts there are other groups jockeying for their own interests (The Chinese lobby, black activists, hispanic laborers, whatever).

It doesn't all have to be so simple, but it doesn't have to be all that complex either.
 
Ehh, honestly both are true. Just like how you can blame pitbull owners, but the real danger is still the pitbull, which is dangerous by nature.

There's really no skirting around the "How do you handle Jews?" question other than just discriminating against the entire race, which is why our ancestors did it for millennia.
The jews you are seeing in upper American society are essentially DEI-hires.
Totally untrue. Jewish competence is beyond doubt at this point
 
I don't understand this intense need to delineate between the (mostly) non-Christian Romans, and the Christian Europe of the middle ages. Intense cruelty occurred in Rome, intense cruelty occurred in Christian Europe. Rome wasn't even really a philosophically enlightened society in the same way Ancient Greece was. Rome, the empire in particular, was basically a military dictatorship. A highly successful military dictatorship, but a military dictatorship nonetheless. Or at least something very close to that. Plenty of great advancements were made by the Romans, and plenty of great advancements were made by Christian Europeans. Two things can be true at once.
this bullshit narrative that the middle ages saw 0 technological advancements unlike the great Roman empire is nonsense and literal renaissance enlightenment froggie propaganda. Romanboos and anti-Church atheists don't want you to know this but the great and smart shitalian Roman empire had literally 0 understanding of metallurgy and steel production. They didn't understand the difference between low carbon, medium carbon or high carbon steel and how the carbon content affects the steel's toughness, structure or brittleness. Roman swords and weapons were a mishmash of poor quality steel which meant that whenever you wanted to strike something with it, you rolled the odds on your blade either: a) bending in half like a chunk of playdough, b) snapping in half like a chunk of glass or c) actually retaining it's shape and sharpness because their blacksmiths didn't understand how to make good steel.

It was only after the fall of the roman empire that people started vaguely understanding how to differentiate between real crappy steel and steel you would want to make a sword out of. This skill is what enabled the industrial revolution because good fucking luck making a steam engine or even a pipe with low quality steel without it breaking on you. Furthermore, good luck milling out a billet into a piston with tight tolerances without knowing whether or not your milling bit is made from something analogous to 1080 steel or fucking 1030.

Maoist china also had this issue where they had the bright idea of telling retarded rice farmers to smelt their old tools into new ones and to use their local forests as fuel (wood->charcoal). What instead happened was that the rice farmers smelted all of their tools into useless high carbon pig iron which was basically impossible to decarbonize and turn back into medium carbon tool steel (unless you just had an industrial arc furnace kicking around in your backyard). Turns out that metallurgy is actually incredibly important for the development of a civilization.
 
I don't understand this intense need to delineate between the (mostly) non-Christian Romans, and the Christian Europe of the middle ages. Intense cruelty occurred in Rome, intense cruelty occurred in Christian Europe. Rome wasn't even really a philosophically enlightened society in the same way Ancient Greece was. Rome, the empire in particular, was basically a military dictatorship. A highly successful military dictatorship, but a military dictatorship nonetheless. Or at least something very close to that.
Intense cruelty happens in pretty much any civilization, the only difference is how long is it upheld. A gentile civilization like the Chinese wouldn't be able to uphold systematic cruelty for more than 20 years on average. Even the Mongols don't get to keep their territory for more than a century because they are just lousy in governing sedimentary societies. But Abrahamic Religion (or any secular-based variant of) deprives everyone under its thrall the ability to even resist the tyranny or fight back, preaches human nature as vices and has a sadomasochistic affinity towards suffering, so anyone in a high enough position can easily cause mass suffering for a very extended period of time and go completely unopposed with that.

Jewish tyranny is also decentralized unlike Gentile tyrants, so even if you get rid of the pope or king you're still not going anywhere. As for Communist Leaders, they will do more than enough damage towards society that it might as well as be irreversible even if the leader dies or someone comes in to get rid of the leader.

Also it is easy to forget that Alexandria the Great is a Crypto-Jew himself so Rome was pretty much a time bomb from the get-go. The major difference here is that Rome is the cutoff for gentile civilization in Europe; everything else after that is Jews humiliating gentiles save for one small break.

Plenty of great advancements were made by the Romans, and plenty of great advancements were made by Christian Europeans. Two things can be true at once.
Aside that the Christian Europeans advanced because they became more willing to co-opt in Gentile art and Gentile stuff. It's the same reason why the CCP thrived after it abandoned pure Communism in favor for a technocracy that still values its own culture.
 
Roman swords and weapons were a mishmash of poor quality steel which meant that whenever you wanted to strike something with it, you rolled the odds on your blade either: a) bending in half like a chunk of playdough, b) snapping in half like a chunk of glass or c) actually retaining it's shape and sharpness because their blacksmiths didn't understand how to make good steel.

It was only after the fall of the roman empire that people started vaguely understanding how to differentiate between real crappy steel and steel you would want to make a sword out of. This skill is what enabled the industrial revolution because good fucking luck making a steam engine or even a pipe with low quality steel without it breaking on you. Furthermore, good luck milling out a billet into a piston with tight tolerances without knowing whether or not your milling bit is made from something analogous to 1080 steel or fucking 1030.
The Gauls, Visigoths and Anglo Saxons were competent warriors.

Leftism and globohomo didn't really exist before Israel became a thing.
The groundwork was already there since the fifth Common Era. The fanatical intolerance against gentiles and rival cults, black and white and us versus them morality, guilt-instilling, martyrdom complexes, sadomasochistic fetishes, collectivism, cretinism and the obsession with complete control over all things to make them "perfect", among a lot of other things, that is.

No Gentile tyrant can pull and combine all of those this consistently and systematically.

Also the ancestors of the Globalhomo were the likes of the Middle Ages Clergy and Knights Templar before they were driven by the Protestants into Freemasonry.
 
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A gentile civilization like the Chinese wouldn't be able to uphold systematic cruelty for more than 20 years on average.
This cannot be a serious viewpoint. If there is any constant in Chinese history at all, it is near endless cruelty. Sure, they have had plenty of periods of relative prosperity, but even that prosperity is achieved by heavy handed overreach as often as not. If there's any truth to this "20 years on average" figure, it's only because Chinese rulers have a habit of collapsing the regime they've built up around them, before the next guy comes along and reasserts it, usually through ruthless brutality.
 
I mean its not all jews, but the powerful jews exploit the government to stomp on everyone else and cement their position of power. Which will always lead to people either perpetually eating shit, or cutting the grass to get to the snakes.
 
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