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💰 GrifterJake Weddle - MrBeast's Former employee, failed comedian, heteroflexible polyamorous he/they-ish Brooklynite, claims to be a socialist but doesn't like it when he had to pay higher taxes when he made 6 figures, but worst of all he never got to be fourth banana.
Below is an archive of the 620 page document ThreadIsDead/TimeToMoveOnAndGetAJob made summarzing the giant fucking pit he got himself into by contact a 14 year old off site because of Internet Drama.
Some sections are redacted, poorly written, and straight up missing (putting [clip] instead of actually showing the clip.)
@TimeToMoveOnAndGetAJob either leak all the shit you can if you're this determined to keep talking about year old drama, or fuck off. The first option is much funnier btw.
I will organize what was written and put it on a post that is more comprehensive and organized. It’s a lot but it is easy to put under one post : )
Edit: The overall evidence is limited but all there is proof of is interaction with the child I referenced. I don’t know if I would be strong because he did still break contact. I’m a bit scared given the circumstances so grooming doesn’t seem applicable in this instance I’d argue. The others who had those messages didn’t or wouldn’t provide so as far I am aware there is no evidence of grooming but I do know of the other minors and it sucks because the messages are inaccessible. Lex has access to the two minors I mentioned.
The 4th one is completely MIA so I can say is there proof of grooming? I’d say inappropriate interaction but that could be applied to me as well. I’d say it was a fuck up on my end and it’s my job to explain everything. If I don’t I remain inconsistent. It’s probably best we don’t load the pedo gun and look at the facts of the situation which is that one minor, the second one is a former Lex mod and the third one was also friendly with Jake. There is not enough evidence to claim or say Jake is or was a pedo/groomer.
The thing we should be really careful with is how this could be a gay op and this is why I always don’t want to jump the gun because I have dealt with Lex and her friends personally. They all hate Kiwi Farms so I’m unsure if me going nuclear was the right move when it could end up being used against us. I’d stick to retracting my prior statements and focusing on the facts of it. Sticking to the facts of the information I have does not mean it isn’t possible for weird DMs between Jake and other minors to exist. I’m sticking to what I know at the present moment and deciding how to address this in a way that is truthful and not deceptive.
Call out the DMs and be critical but also respect the person involved and their wishes of not being labeled as a victim because he didn’t actually victimize her. He isn’t a pedo though I’m pretty positive on that and no one should make that claim.
I fucked up and I need to take accountability.
Taking Accountability For My Reckless Behavior Part 1:
Tthe truth is that this entire situation has a complicated history and backstory. Before I continue, I want to disavow a previous post I made in which I publicly labeled Jake Weddle a groomer—without any basis on reality or evidence. I want to take full accountability for making such a rushed and statements along with other statements. I also want to say that there seemingly is a reason for why I have been inconsistent. It was not only untrue. Regardless of my intentions at the time, I should have never made that post or rushed statements. Let me explain what happened. To do that, we must first talk about the messages. So, what happened? On December 27, 2024, Snow messaged Jake Weddle to check in on him.
Jake said he was doing fine but was dreading an upcoming news story. Snow replied that she had just learned about it and hadn’t seen the stream involving Lex, Jake’s ex. Their brief conversation shifted to CamNuggets, which raised Snow’s suspicions about Lex. Jake mentioned that the chat with Cam had been short-lived and confirmed that Cam planned to release a video. Snow expressed relief that Jake’s friends were supporting him.
Jake then opened up about how the public breakup had affected him, saying that some people close to him felt uncomfortable about it. He revealed that it was his third messy breakup—and the second time he had felt targeted and financially exploited. When Snow asked what he meant by being “put off,” Jake explained that the breakup looked bad publicly and might carry sexist undertones, especially given Aiden’s (a commentary YouTuber) audience. He said he understood others’ concerns and didn’t want to relive the experience either.
(From left to right, as described by Snow in the caption: Soggy Cereal, Lerix, CamNuggets, Oompaville, Stucky (on top of the star), MrBeast, Nicholas DeOrio, DogPack404, Jake Weddle, Rosanna Pansino, and Quintheo.)
December 27th, 2024 - December 31, 2024:
On December 28th, Snow messages Jake asking two things: what Rosanna and Dawson think of her art, and whether it's wrong for her to like him and the rest of the “MrBeast Hater Squad” (her term for the anti-MrBeast crowd) after the Soggy Cereal video, which damaged Dawson’s reputation. Jake replies that it’s fine to support them, as long as she doesn’t idolize anyone and remembers they’re just people. He advises her not to stress over Soggy Cereal or others' opinions, and shares his thoughts on Commentary YouTubers and MrBeast’s issues. Snow responds that she’s not trying to be parasocial—she just wants those she admires to be treated fairly. This is completely fair and reasonable.
Jake reassures her that as long as she just does what she feels like, nobody can take away the appreciation she has for the Squad. Snow thanks him for his words and wishes him good night. The next evening she would ask Jake about a certain Instagram story where he ranted about online hate directed at him and appeared to be comparing himself to a rape victim.
He was mocked for this Instagram story by commentators and their communities, but even Snow said she doesn’t understand why he said the things he did in that Instagram story. Jake later explained that he didn’t actually believe what happened to him was on the same level, but that the way victims of sexual assault are silenced felt similar to how MrBeast’s detractors were being silenced.
Snow comments that she didn’t understand how people let Jimmy get away with hiring the same lawyer who defended Harvey Weinstein and got him off free.
Jake also talks about Jimmy hiring a PR team to defame him and downplays his own behavior, saying he’s only guilty of making “schizo rants” on Instagram—adding, “who isn’t?”
Snow comments that Jake’s critics don’t have the best comprehension and that they intentionally misinterpret things to get clicks. Jake appreciates Snow’s willingness to get clarification, to which she responded that she felt inclined to as the “worrying was killing [her]”. Jake says she doesn’t need to stress over him and wants her to consider finding the same values she sees in him and Dawson in other places. Snow quickly clears things up and claims she was exaggerating, and Jake makes a joke about making sure to go outside and he also encourages her to continue doing more fan art of the creators she likes.
Snow also brings up that Jake was the only person part of the MrBeast Hater Squad she didn’t have the chance to talk to during that point in time aside from Dogpack sending him her fanart. This is most likely the first time Jake had heard of Snow. Jake comments on how CamNuggets and Quintheo are great people. In the middle of the conversation, he abruptly asks Snow—based on her artwork—if she was shipping him and Dawson, since the art she was drawing of them seemed romantic. He immediately follows up by saying he finds it funny. Jake says she doesn’t need to stress over him and wants her to consider finding the same values she sees in him and Dawson in other places. Snow quickly clears things up and claims she was exaggerating, and Jake makes a joke about making sure to go outside and he also encourages her to continue doing more fan art of the creators she likes. Snow brings up that she’s been following the MrBeast drama since the start and mentions that if it never happened, her summer wouldn’t have been any fun.
Snow also brings up that Jake was the only person part of the MrBeast Hater Squad she didn’t have the chance to talk to during that point in time aside from Dogpack sending him her fanart. This is most likely the first time Jake had heard of Snow. Jake comments on how CamNuggets and Quintheo are great people. In the middle of the conversation, he abruptly asks Snow—based on her artwork—if she was shipping him and Dawson, since the art she was drawing of them seemed romantic. He immediately follows up by saying he finds it funny.
Snow seems taken aback and clarifies that she doesn’t like drawing ship art of real people, though she does admit she finds Jake and DogPack’s dynamic “cute.” Jake wishes Snow a good rest of her evening. Snow follows up the next day, clarifying that she is fine with shipping real people as long as she has their consent to do so, and asks if Jake would be alright with her drawing such art of him and DogPack, to which he expresses his full approval.
December 31, 2024 - January 2nd:
With his approval, Snow sends him a picture of some fanart she made a few months back, which depicts Jake and Dawson holding hands (with “jakepack 4eva” and “Jake Weddle x Dawson French” written on the side).
Jake laughs at this and says he appreciates her support. Snow asks him to ask Dawson if he’s fine with the art, and he says he’ll ask. She also wishes him a happy new year. Jake obviously should have cut communications after this. On January 2nd, she sent a picture of Jake’s Instagram story and thanked him for promoting her work.
January 2nd - January 5th:
Snow sends Jake a picture of a shitpost she made to which he finds funny. Snow also references the “me and the bad bitch I pulled by being autistic” meme and attributes it to Jake and Dawson’s dynamic. Jake also tells Snow that Dogpack is alright with the ship art as long as she doesn’t draw anything explicit (understandable given she’s a minor). Snow understands this and Jake tells her Dawson liked her “bad bitch while being autistic” joke. She responds to this by calling Dawson the “bad bitch”.
On January 3, she sends Jake a work-in-progress of some of her art, to which he compliments. On the 5th she asks him about how long he plans to stay in New York due to wanting to go to one of his shows.
January 5th - January 13th:
Snow sends Jake the finished version of a WIP she had shared earlier, which he compliments. On the 9th, she sends another drawing of DogPack and mentions her upcoming birthday.
January 13th:
On the 13th, she sends a drawing of Jake and Dawson holding hands, blushing, sharing a milkshake, and seemingly about to kiss—with hearts around them.
The artwork—titled “more of the sillies yippee jumps up and down”—was posted seven months ago on r/mrbeastsnark. At this time, Snow was 13 years old and Jake was 27 years old. She says that Jake comes off to her as awkward, but “in a nice way” (which is why she drew him as such). Jake praises the work and comments that her depiction of him is very accurate.
My Direct Messages With Snow And How I Was Wrong:
What happened? Months ago, in 2025, I mentioned this situation to a Kiwi Farms user without discussing the more extreme details. I noted that Lex joined a Discord server where I sought assistance with Ava Tyson-related issues and attempted to contact ex-employees. For context, a user helped me locate VODs related to a Chris associate on a server I joined. I had asked for help finding Minecraft-related VODs connected to this individual, offering to credit anyone who assisted in a thread (which I never updated) on January 13, 2025. I was transparent about using Kiwi Farms and intended to credit minor for aiding with the timeline, as I always credit contributors. I didn’t ask the minor’s age. In hindsight, I regret not verifying their age or checking their Twitter, which would have stated their age when they offered help, and I acknowledge I should have.
I take full accountability for this failure. As soon as this kid mentioned school, I should have immediately asked how old they were. In this document, I will also include my full correspondence with Snow. At the time, I had joined two Discord servers run by former MrBeast employees, hoping to find a space where I could collaborate with others on research. It was there that I first met Snow. Along with other members, we discussed my findings about Ava and the larger MrBeast company. During one of these conversations, I mentioned needing assistance, and Snow offered to help.
Because of my paranoia, I have a habit of scrubbing any mentions related to Ava Tyson and Discord-related material. I eventually decided to direct message Snow, which marked our first private interaction. In that message, I reminded her that I was a Kiwi, acknowledging that she didn’t have to trust me, but added that her help would be greatly appreciated if she chose to give it.
Snow asked what she stood to lose by trusting me. I told her “nothing.” She seemed reassured by that response, and I explained that I needed someone to create a Dream SMP timeline, outlining how she could do it. Snow replied that she would work on the timeline later, mentioning that she was in school at the time. I made sure to express my gratitude for her willingness to help.
There should absolutely be questions and scrutiny. As an adult, it is my responsibility to verify people’s ages in every situation. In this case, I failed to do so, and I fully deserve the criticism and scrutiny directed at me for my recklessness. If this was someone else, I would go just as hard on them. I cannot critic Jake Weddle. I need to critic myself and take accountability for my recklessness.
January 14:
I thanked Snow for her help and mentioned that I would be finished writing the Dream SMP portion and be done. Snow asked if there was anything else I needed, and I explained that I would need to offer more push-back on Weddle, as I did not want to be accused of bias. I also shared that, although I had initially been doubtful, I now believed he had been harmed. Snow confirmed something that caught my interest—she had talked to him.
Once again, the scrutiny here is that I did not ask this child's age. Should Jake Weddle be the only one under scrutiny or or should I be reflecting on my own conduct in this situation? Had I known her age at the time, I would have been extremely concerned. My thought process then—that if she knew Jake Weddle, I might be able to establish contact with him through her—was completely inappropriate given the circumstances and what I later learned. I asked Snow directly that if she did speak to Jake, she should tell him I was sorry and wished him the best. This request came from a sympathetic perspective, as I wanted to apologize for not recognizing him as a real victim when he was harmed by the company.
Snow mentioned that Jake had gone through experiences beyond belief and yet still remains kind to everyone. She said she would choose to support him over those who gave him undue scrutiny. I responded that Jake might be concerned about her talking to me because of my Kiwi affiliation, but I made it clear that I do not hate him. What happened was unfortunate and deeply messed up. I dragged an innocent child into a dumb internet drama and for what I do deserve every ounce of scrutiny. Jake did nothing wrong but I most certainly did.
In this part of the conversation, I mentioned instances of derailment by MrBeast-related people, such as claims that MrBeast had said something racist. I also admitted that I had been very critical of Dogpack404, though people had assumed I was derailing. I expressed my concern that the thread might be labeled a hive of misinformation and “transphobia,” knowing that my posts were being monitored. At this point, I began to realize that if others tried to discredit the Ava Tyson allegations, I might end up criticizing Dogpack for his wrongdoings while also holding MrBeast accountable. This felt appropriate as a way to show consistency but is inappropriate knowing this person’s age.
I went into detail about a person who had previously worked with the company (they are not currently employed there—this is a false statement) and who began making comments like “so-and-so is crazy, he is schizophrenic.” They also mentioned having a group chat where my posts were linked and monitored, which genuinely scared me. They even sent screenshots of my posts taken just two minutes after I had posted them, which made it clear that someone was actively watching me.
Though there is no active evidence this is the case and perhaps based on speculation, I mentioned Lava telling me about this.. Then Snow would add that she told Jake about what I said and Jake would say no harm no foul and no worries. I also added that Jake dealt with a lot of stuff and I feel nothing but sympathy and wish him the best.
The mention of Shadow Bullet is notable, as Snow brought him up to Cam Nuggets.
Some claim her references to people I follow prove Snow was a “gay op,” but that’s not true. I was reckless for openly discussing the mods, and in this case it involved a minor whose age I failed to verify. I take full accountability and deserve scrutiny. The conversation worsened when I mentioned secret NSFW channels and admitted I couldn’t speak about what I knew regarding certain people. Had I confirmed Snow’s age, this exchange would never have happened.
When I mentioned doxxing two mods, that was the wrong term. I’m not a doxxer—I collect only publicly available information that people themselves put online and sometimes reach out to others for more publicly accessible details. That’s just internet searching and digging, not doxxing.
The real issue is that I involved a minor without realizing it, which was dangerously reckless and deserving of scrutiny. I should not handle serious investigations if I can’t do something as basic as verifying age. This all began in August 2024, when I was already looking into them, and it later led me to an employee who appeared to have indirect ties to Epstein and knew Alan Dershowitz. When Snow asked how I “dox” people, the conversation became even worse and really retarded.
December 27th, 2024 - December 31, 2024:
On December 28th, Snow messages Jake asking two things: what Rosanna and Dawson think of her art, and whether it's wrong for her to like him and the rest of the “MrBeast Hater Squad” (her term for the anti-MrBeast crowd) after the Soggy Cereal video, which damaged Dawson’s reputation. Jake replies that it’s fine to support them, as long as she doesn’t idolize anyone and remembers they’re just people. He advises her not to stress over Soggy Cereal or others' opinions, and shares his thoughts on Commentary YouTubers and MrBeast’s issues. Snow responds that she’s not trying to be parasocial—she just wants those she admires to be treated fairly.
Jake also talks about Jimmy hiring a PR team to defame him and downplays his own behavior, saying he’s only guilty of making “schizo rants” on Instagram—adding, “who isn’t?”
Snow comments that Jake’s critics don’t have the best comprehension and that they intentionally misinterpret things to get clicks. Jake appreciates Snow’s willingness to get clarification, to which she responded that she felt inclined to as the “worrying was killing [her]”.
Jake says she doesn’t need to stress over him and wants her to consider finding the same values she sees in him and Dawson in other places. Snow quickly clears things up and claims she was exaggerating, and Jake makes a joke about making sure to go outside and he also encourages her to continue doing more fan art of the creators she likes. Snow brings up that she’s been following the MrBeast drama since the start and mentions that if it never happened, her summer wouldn’t have been any fun.
Snow also brings up that Jake was the only person part of the MrBeast Hater Squad she didn’t have the chance to talk to during that point in time aside from Dogpack sending him her fanart. This is most likely the first time Jake had heard of Snow. Jake comments on how CamNuggets and Quintheo are great people. In the middle of the conversation, he abruptly asks Snow—based on her artwork—if she was shipping him and Dawson, since the art she was drawing of them seemed romantic. He immediately follows up by saying he finds it funny.
Snow seems taken aback and clarifies that she doesn’t like drawing ship art of real people, though she does admit she finds Jake and DogPack’s dynamic “cute.” Jake, why the fuck are you okay with this? Why is a child calling the dynamic "cute," and why are you totally fine with it? If this were Mr. Beast, you’d be at his throat. Where is the goddamn consistency? This is highly inappropriate.
Jake wishes Snow a good rest of her evening. Snow follows up the next day, clarifying that she is fine with shipping real people as long as she has their consent to do so, and asks if Jake would be alright with her drawing such art of him and DogPack, to which he expresses his full approval.
December 31, 2024 - January 2nd:
With his approval, Snow sends him a picture of some fanart she made a few months back, which depicts Jake and Dawson holding hands (with “jakepack 4eva” and “Jake Weddle x Dawson French” written on the side).
Jake laughs at this and says he appreciates her support. Snow asks him to ask Dawson if he’s fine with the art, and he says he’ll ask. She also wishes him a happy new year. On January 2nd, she sent a picture of Jake’s Instagram story and thanked him for promoting her work.
January 2nd - January 5th:
Snow sends Jake a picture of a shitpost she made to which he finds funny. Snow also references the “me and the bad bitch I pulled by being autistic” meme and attributes it to Jake and Dawson’s dynamic. Jake also tells Snow that Dogpack is alright with the ship art as long as she doesn’t draw anything explicit (understandable given she’s a minor). Snow understands this and Jake tells her Dawson liked her “bad bitch while being autistic” joke. She responds to this by calling Dawson the “bad bitch”. Has Jake admitted that Dawson French knew about these interactions including a child making BL art and sending it to Jake? To what extent did he know and why didn’t he question it? This same question should be applied to me given how long I held on to this information.
January 5th - January 13th:
On January 3, she sends Jake a work-in-progress of some of her art, which he compliments. On the 5th, she asks him how long he plans to stay in New York, saying she wants to attend one of his shows. Again—a literal child is asking to visit your shows in person. Isn't this a huge concern? And if not, why not? Where is the consistency with how you'd treat MrBeast? Why don’t you take accountability? Snow sends Jake the finished version of a WIP she had shared earlier, which he compliments. On the 9th, she sends another drawing of DogPack and mentions her upcoming birthday.
January 13th:
On the 13th, she sends a drawing of Jake and Dawson holding hands, blushing, sharing a milkshake, and seemingly about to kiss—with hearts around them.
She says that Jake comes off to her as awkward, but “in a nice way” (which is why she drew him as such). Jake praises the work and comments that her depiction of him is very accurate.
My DMs With Snow:
What happened? Months ago, in 2025, I mentioned this situation to a Kiwi Farms user without discussing the more extreme details. I noted that Lex joined a Discord server where I sought assistance with Ava Tyson-related issues and attempted to contact ex-employees.
For context, a user helped me locate VODs related to a Chris associate on a server I joined. I had asked for help finding Minecraft-related VODs connected to this individual, offering to credit anyone who assisted in a thread (which I never updated) on January 13, 2025. I was transparent about using Kiwi Farms and intended to credit minor for aiding with the timeline, as I always credit contributors. I didn’t ask the minor’s age. In hindsight, I regret not verifying their age or checking their Twitter, which would have stated their age when they offered help, and I acknowledge I should have.
There should absolutely be questions and scrutiny. As an adult, it is my responsibility to verify people’s ages in every situation. In this case, I failed to do so, and I fully deserve the criticism and scrutiny directed at me for my recklessness. If this was someone else, I would go just as hard on them.
January 14:
I thanked Snow for her help and mentioned that I would be finished writing the Dream SMP portion and be done. Snow asked if there was anything else I needed, and I explained that I would need to offer more push-back on Weddle, as I did not want to be accused of bias. I also shared that, although I had initially been doubtful, I now believed he had been harmed. Snow confirmed something that caught my interest—she had talked to him.
Had I known her age at the time, I would have been extremely concerned. My thought process then—that if she knew Jake Weddle, I might be able to establish contact with him through her—was completely inappropriate given the circumstances and what I later learned. I asked Snow directly that if she did speak to Jake, she should tell him I was sorry and wished him the best. This request came from a sympathetic perspective, as I wanted to apologize for not recognizing him as a real victim when he was harmed by the company.
Snow mentioned that Jake had gone through experiences beyond belief and yet still remains kind to everyone. She said she would choose to support him over those who gave him undue scrutiny. I responded that Jake might be concerned about her talking to me because of my Kiwi affiliation, but I made it clear that I do not hate him. What happened was unfortunate and deeply messed up.
In this part of the conversation, I mentioned instances of derailment by MrBeast-related people, such as claims that MrBeast had said something racist. I also admitted that I had been very critical of Dogpack404, though people had assumed I was derailing. I expressed my concern that the thread might be labeled a hive of misinformation and “transphobia,” knowing that my posts were being monitored. At this point, I began to realize that if others tried to discredit the Ava Tyson allegations, I might end up criticizing Dogpack for his wrongdoings while also holding MrBeast accountable. This felt appropriate as a way to show consistency but is extremely inappropriate knowing this person’s age but in actuality also served the MrBeast company's interests. Consistency is important but so is not blindly doing a corporation's binding.
The mention of Shadow Bullet is notable, as Snow brought him up to Cam Nuggets.
Some claim her references to people I follow prove Snow was a “gay op,” but that’s not true. I was reckless for openly discussing the mods, and in this case it involved a minor whose age I failed to verify. I take full accountability and deserve scrutiny. The conversation worsened when I mentioned secret NSFW channels and admitted I couldn’t speak about what I knew regarding certain people. Had I confirmed Snow’s age, this exchange would never have happened. I deserve scrutiny, not Jake.
I went into detail about a person who had previously worked with the company (they are not currently employed there—this is a false statement) and who began making comments like “so-and-so is crazy, he is schizophrenic.” They also mentioned having a group chat where my posts were linked and monitored, which genuinely scared me. They even sent screenshots of my posts taken just two minutes after I had posted them, which made it clear that someone was actively watching me.
Though there is no active evidence this is the case and perhaps based on speculation, I mentioned Lava telling me about this. Then Snow would add that she told Jake about what I said and Jake would say no harm no foul and no worries. I also added that Jake dealt with a lot of stuff and I feel nothing but sympathy and wish him the best.
The mention of Shadow Bullet is notable, as Snow brought him up to Cam Nuggets.
Some claim her references to people I follow prove Snow was a “gay op,” but that’s not true. I was reckless for openly discussing the mods, and in this case it involved a minor whose age I failed to verify. I take full accountability and deserve scrutiny. The conversation worsened when I mentioned secret NSFW channels and admitted I couldn’t speak about what I knew regarding certain people. Had I confirmed Snow’s age, this exchange would never have happened and I was so damn reckless and insane for even bringing her into this. This again is my fault.
When I mentioned doxxing two mods, that was the wrong term. I’m not a doxxer—I collect only publicly available information that people themselves put online and sometimes reach out to others for more publicly accessible details. But actually this might be cope. I do dox people and I should hold no shame in it. The real issue is that I involved a minor without realizing it, which was reckless and deserving of scrutiny. I should not handle serious investigations if I can’t do something as basic as verifying age. This all began in August 2024, when I was already looking into them, and it later led me to an employee who appeared to have indirect ties to Epstein and knew Alan Dershowitz. When Snow asked how I “dox” people, the conversation became even worse.
Snow remarks that the people who criticize him aren’t as smart when they act alone as opposed to with their friends. She also says that even though she respects him, Turkey Tom was right about him feeding into hate too much. Jake Weddle says he loves the artwork of both him and Dawson seemingly next to each other. While not all the art is shipping art, this behavior is still deeply concerning regardless of whether or not this is sexual. This is still wrong.
He talks about his phone number being leaked, claims his ex is grifting him, says the last two girls he dated tried to beat him up, and reveals that his father is in jail for sex crimes—adding that solitary confinement gives him PTSD nightmares. Jake went on to talk about “feeding the trolls,” specifically mentioning Lex. He said that after she was gone, he stream-sniped her in front of his haters and described it as a “trauma boss battle.” Snow also referenced me directly—mentioning that I frequent Kiwi Farms and that she was collaborating with me, wanting to give credit where it was due.
She added that I had told her to let him know that.
January 15:
Snow talks here about redoing the timeline.
January 16:
January 17:
The next day, Snow mentioned a server (MrBeast Investigation Bureau) where people collaborated to expose the company's questionable practices, and I requested an invite.
The MrBeast Investigation Bureau server was created by u/BrettZotij (brett z) and u/ednamode23 (HomoAspien).
On 12/29/2024, Brett asked HomoAspien if he should invite others, prompting him to share the invite in a group chat with Brett and Downtown-Station.
Downstation Station or u/Downtown_Station5859 is a moderator of the MrBeast Snark Reddit, along with HomoAspein.
From reading these logs, the two mods, along with Brett, were clearly in communication and in group chats. One of these chats was called “Solving Jimmy Damage Control Chat” created on November 24, 2024. The discord user Brett would invite a lot of people and Edna joined.
Edna offered to invite someone who appeared to know Jimmy in real life. Brett explained that the chat’s goal was to devise a strategy, claiming to know former Beast Games contestants. Edna warned Brett that they were up against an entire PR crisis firm and suggested attacking where Jimmy least expected. He also noted that the subreddit confirmed the harsh conditions in Vegas but urged the group to dig deeper beyond the discussions. Later, Edna invited Downtown.
Brett enthusiastically supported Edna’s idea, noting that he couldn’t be framed as a disgruntled employee and had more media exposure than Dawson. Edna elaborated on the video, explaining that while it would be anti-Trump, a documentary detailing all of MrBeast LLC’s activities would also be released.
Two replies were under this comment about the video which are demonstrated here.
Brett probed for details, asking how Edna uncovered information like the elevator incident. Edna explained that it was entirely unintentional and provided further elaboration.
Edna wished everyone a Merry Christmas and he would invite another mod known as Appleaday to the group.
The next day Brett would welcome Apple and there was talks of a master strategy.
This chat led to the creation of the MrBeast Investigation Bureau.
Snow was texting Jake on the 17th as well. On the 17th she would inform Jake about people larping as him and saying controversial things under his name.
Snow comments on the absurdity of it and remarks that his haters are obsessed. Jake expressed his relief at being off Twitter after things like the hashtag about him were circling around. Snow agrees with him and questions how people thought that made them sound morally correct at all, but disagrees with him on his dislike for being famous as she finds humor in adults trying to hate on her online for her artwork. She also asks him if he’s okay with fanfiction, which Jake approves on the condition that it’s not explicit.
Snow vaguely hints at having seen someone not follow these wishes of his, to which Jake expresses his indifference. Snow sends the Tyler the Creator cyberbullying meme and jokingly tells Jake to follow that if commentators harass him again. Jake laughs at this and says that after the breakup with Lex he is no longer moved by hate, saying “HURT ME MORE THAN A WOMAN I LOVE CAN. I DARE YOU. YOU CANT.” Snow also explains her previous vague statement from before, informing Jake that she saw scarily detailed fan-fiction of him being sexually assaulted by MrBeast. Snow proceeded to describe Jake Weddle getting raped by Jimmy.
Snow talks about the author’s note being hypocritical and Jake calls the whole thing psychotic.
Here, I introduce Snow’s perspective on things.
Hello everyone, it's me, Snow, writing this. You may know me as that dedicated DogPack404 fan artist and have probably seen me, my work, or my name floating around these past few months even before this. I feel that even with all the evidence and receipts here, my perspective would be valuable to this document for further explanation. There are certain disagreements between me and the others working on this, so I might have opposing opinions to theirs in this document. But I have been watching everyone discuss this. And it's clear that although Jake messed up badly, too many are unaware of Lex’s larger evil. What really matters at the end of the day, as the person who was wronged (not quite by Jake but more so by the other malicious actors) are my feelings on the situation.
A bit of background on why I like the MrBeast antifan squad so much: I have been making fanart of the figures involved in the MrBeast drama since the initial upload of DogPack’s video.
I draw mostly Dawson, but I draw his friends too and a lot of people involved in this. Before that, I was quite the lost child; I was going through some things and at the start of the summer I felt very abandoned. Not going to go in too much depth about that here, but seeing that video for the first time and joining the communities that were able to grow from it was something that really helped me get back on my feet and understand my worth. I have learned a lot from the people I have met in this community, and have secured some amazing friendships. Despite the controversies, I find DogPack and his friends to be very respectable people who may have messed up but still did good things, and these good deeds shouldn’t be erased by their misdoings. To that end, I draw DogPack as a way to show my respect and appreciation for the guy for what he's done for others and for me. I was doing pretty well, but this situation sort of ruined that, to say the least.
I know this isn’t really the ideal place for “fandom culture”. I know people think I’m weird. But it’s really only my take on how I see the drama. You can’t change people's opinions easily, so I hope this at least serves as an explanation to why I do what I do and allows for more understanding treatment of me.
I joined the r/mrbeastsnark subreddit back in early October of 2024; my arrival was met with much praise from many of the subreddit’s members and mods alike. Some members didn’t like my posts, but the moderators seemed to disagree with that and told me they were fine with me posting.
(His profile pic is kind of glitched out in this screenshot)
Although it was small, I was very happy to be a part of this community. I did contribute to MrBeast discussion there in other ways aside from fanart, but that was sort of my main thing, and I was pretty well known for it soon enough. The Soggy Cereal video did kind of sour things, and I had to deal with increased pushback since my fanart mainly focused on DogPack. But people still remained civil towards me, and most importantly, I was never actually told to stop posting during this time by anyone in charge. I felt like a very unique and valued member of not only this community, but the MrBeast drama discussion community as a whole.
Now, onto the main situation. I first opened DM’s with Jake on December 27th, 2024, as a means to gain further clarification about the breakup with Lex and to check in on him. I was 13 at the time, him being 27. We talked for a little bit and soon after the conversation led into other things such as my artwork and general discussions about our lives on both sides which can all be seen in our Reddit conversation. Often the conversations were MrBeast drama-related though, and he mentioned sharing my artwork with Rosanna and DogPack.
Eventually one day he questioned if I was shipping him and DogPack (this is still important later). Being the well-mannered girl I am, I said no, because I am a firm believer RPF (Real Person Fiction) is disrespectful if you do not have permission on both sides and/or they are currently in relationships publicly. So, I refrained from making shipping comments or such art before then. I also took the liberty of asking Jake questions regarding what he did and didn’t feel comfortable with me drawing so I wouldn’t make anyone upset later on. These are also things I’d ask him to ask Dawson, again, just to make sure I wouldn’t be making anyone uncomfortable.
I want to clarify this behavior by Jake should have never been normalized regardless neither should mine. I am also wrong if not more wrong with how long I DMed Snow and other things.
On January 17, 2025, Snow invited me to the MIB server, believing its members strongly disliked Jimmy. I asked Snow to inquire if they knew about the moderators. A few responded, but their answers were mostly unremarkable.
While lurking, I chimed in, suggesting that to learn more about MrBeast, they should investigate the adult moderators of the Ava Tyson discord. Brett later misunderstood, thinking I meant the underage users of the Ava Tyson server. I subsequently clarified my point.
As an archivist, I initially joined heated discussions on a server about disturbing findings uncovered by others. These impassioned rants, fueled by my deep investment in the topic, proved inconsequential. However, I neglected to exercise due diligence. While adults may freely explore intense subjects, I failed to verify Snow’s age, as previously noted. By involving them in this complex and potentially dangerous matter, I put the minor at risk, and I take full responsibility for my reckless oversight. My failure to perform basic due diligence eight months ago was irresponsible, demonstrating that I should not handle sensitive investigations, especially those involving minors or corporate entities.
In the server, I cautioned against sharing the most incriminating information, as the server was publicly accessible. Anyone could join, log the discussions, and misuse the data for malicious purposes. Ironically, I always recorded calls and archived chats, specifically this one, especially when Ava was discussed (I am paranoid 24/7). Brett invited me to a private chat and granted me access. Snow requested to join but was denied. When the minor mentioned working with me, I had only asked her to help verify dates for certain streams and VODs, as noted earlier. This was the extent of her involvement, and I deeply regret including her, especially after learning her age in hindsight.
January 18:
On January 18th, someone asked Snow, a minor, if Jake Weddle was on the server, prompting her to say she’d contact him to gauge his interest. Brett encouraged Snow to invite Jake Weddle to the MIB server to discuss the allegations. Another user offered to reach out and invite Rosanna Pansino.
However, it is strange how he called the MIB server “god’s blessing” after Jake was banned in these DM’s with his friend. Why does Brett want someone to be exposed?
Snow then asked Weddle about joining the server in the Reddit DMs where she provided the invite.
Snow’s Full Correspondence With Jake From The 18th:
Snow informs Jake about the r/mrbeastsnark subreddit’s new Discord server (MrBeast Investigation Bureau) and asks him if he’d like to join. Jake asks if Edna is present there, adding that he was close with Lex. It should be noted that Snow uses she/her pronouns for Edna in these DM’s as she was unaware Edna was male until later. Jake explains to Snow his knowledge about Edna and even adds that he’s alright with talking to him as long as he’s no longer close with Lex. He also goes on about his fear of Lex and how much he doesn’t want to talk to her. Snow tells Jake that Edna is on the server and Jake agrees to join under the impression Edna is no longer in contact with Lex.
Jake expresses his willingness to have a civil discussion with Edna and says he won’t talk badly of Lex on the server. Snow sends him the invite.
Here is Snow’s perspective on the matter with additional clarification:
On the night of January 18th, roughly 3 weeks after we started talking, I invited Jake to the MrBeast Investigation Bureau (MIB) discord server after a member asked if he was on the server. Again referring to the Reddit conversations, Jake wanted to know if Lex was on the server, saying he’d refuse to join if that was the case. I asked Edna if she was, since Jake mentioned that they were close, to which he gave me a vague answer.
I thought nothing of it, wanting to respect his decision of not elaborating, which would turn out to be a grave mistake.
The rest of a detail explanation will be continued on Part 2. This is a complete shit-show and it only gets worst.
Blackmail Admission (Was It True?):
On a now-deleted post on page 7 of the Jake Weddle thread, I made claims that I am a blackmailer, that I have blackmailed people such as Saphno and others, and that I am a hypocrite.
So, is there context or a reason why I made this post and those statements? I made a rash judgement and I went completely schizo and dragged this longer than I needed too.
After making the post, I DMed an anonymous Kiwi Farms user—someone who knows more about the situation and possesses most of the logs—explaining that I made the post intentionally to discredit myself at 10:22 PM. I did this because I am being blackmailed, and the more I resist complying, the more danger there is to people who previously spoke to me, such as CookieOfGods, who does not support what I did, nor does Kiwi Farms. Let's compare the times to support this. My post was made at 8:06 PM. At 10:22 PM, I made the charged post. I posted this to let the other person know about the situation in advance. If I do not blackmail people then why did I record people? I always record people and the folks I dealt with were connected with others who did not want me to make long posts identifying their actions in the infamous Ava Tyson discord. I also record everyone including myself as I am just paranoid.
What about the Saphno claims of blackmail? That’s complete bullshit. A person known here as DynoSilly is someone I interacted with once because I thought they were interesting, but I didn’t realize their past or what they were involved with. I would later find out they were a degenerate zoophile who craves attention and LARPs as Saphno. This is important for later. On Telegram, he would claim to be Saphno, and since I wanted to see if there was more information—especially if a known predator had a Kiwi Farms account—I made sure to forward it to the proper Kiwis and warn them in advance, but I doubted it was the real Saphno. Here is evidence of that taking place:
Why did I claim I blackmail higher-level employees? Again. I was intended on trying to discredit myself as I sincerely thought the people who formerly relied on me were in danger and I wanted to protect them even if it meant doing things that could harm me in the longer term or destroy whatever credibility I had left. There is no proof that they would harm this person but I do believe that would happen or has regardless so I bit the bullet and accepted the outcome. I also will add I record everyone because of my prior experiences being exploited so for me recordings are a form of protection so if anyone lies about me, I can listen to the recordings and remember what I exactly said. Recording people without their consent is still wrong and not okay. I need to take the L and say look I fucked up.
The info I had on employees literally came from people in the Ava Tyson discord who would provide it to me when I asked or the one Twitter user who dealt with Ethan Schriver personally. This does not go deep. It is me being retarded.
In conclusion, I deserve full scrutiny. I deserve to face all accountability that comes my way regardless of who it is from. If I can moralize about the moderators or Ava Tyson then I need to be able to properly scrutinize myself and take fault for where I have done wrong though my actions. There are more ways in which I mishandled this which I will explain in a second post.
Retraction Of Kiwi Post:
There is no evidence of this guy inappropriately messaging kids. To make a broad claim like this, it requires evidence does it not?
Jake actually cut his communication but he still was inappropriate with Snow.
The two others mentioned I have not seen the full DMs (only Lex has these) so I should not at all be making this claim and I completely retract it. My messages here are edited.
This is false and not an accurate statement and he does not owe me anything.
This is not only retarded per usual but straight up delusional and parasocial. Jake Weddle does not or ever did owe me anything. I owe him more than me. If anyone took the bullet, it was the people who relied on me. I fucked up there for I need to face accountability and expose myself before I "protect" others.
This is speculation and a broad claim. You shouldn't run with something unless you can confirm it to be true 100 %. Accountability and serious allegations involving minors is serious and I need to take that part of accountability. This isn't okay.
Final Point:
I broke communication with the minor and we do not have contact. This is retarded and I am for doing this. I want to add this should have been kept private and I need to concede whether or not someone leaked a part of the DMs, I still dragged this on and I am at fault therefore I need to face some fucking accountability.
Not much info about his whereabouts and if MrBeast sued him or not.
The most I know is Dawson is hiding and MrBeast lawyers planned to sue him with a big BIG lawsuit.
The only guy here who might know more went kinda insane and schizo. (see few posts above)
Isn't this guy nearly 30? Why is his Mom acting like his publicist and answering calls from "news media" for him? Is there ever a story where Jake isn't the victim somehow? NY Post is a tabloid, sure, but if you've been an adult living in the United States you'd know that. He's so desperate to frame it as if he didn't know what the NY Post is or what it does, to obfuscate the fact he was willing to do an interview with them because it goes against whatever version of leftism he claims to believe in. If you're going to walk into a hit-job interview at least be funny or do some controversial, secretly record your version, and upload it to Youtube for your 15 minutes of fame. But no, this faggot is stupid and unfunny to even think of that.
The fact that his dad is a pedophile and his mother is so heavily involved in his life as a grown man leads me to believe she enabled him to never grow up, so he'd never have to confront what his father did and move on in a healthy way. His vain fixation on leftism and tranny nonsense is just an attempt to "rebel" or go in the opposite direction of his father, something his mother likely encouraged in his adolescence. For Jake, his problem isn't even that his Dad is a pedophile, its that his Dad is "toxic-masculine" man who cheated on his mom. Its why he has no problems engaging in sexually charged conversations with children and attempting to trauma bond with them.
Below is an archive of the 620 page document ThreadIsDead/TimeToMoveOnAndGetAJob made summarzing the giant fucking pit he got himself into by contact a 14 year old off site because of Internet Drama.
Some sections are redacted, poorly written, and straight up missing (putting [clip] instead of actually showing the clip.)
@TimeToMoveOnAndGetAJob either leak all the shit you can if you're this determined to keep talking about year old drama, or fuck off. The first option is much funnier btw.
Oh cool, a more complete version of the thing I posted before it got editing done to it. That fucker messaged me so often I literally had to stop using all of my social media accounts and beg them to leave me alone, and their response after was "I'm never leaving you alone".
They also sent me questions asking about easy methods for suicide to bait me into talking to them, to which all conversations just went directly to me asking them to get a job and get offline.
