James Bond Appreciation Thread

[Captain Syrup]

Skyfall is where Bond hit peak plothole

Delightful to see the back of M.

Sad to see the back of Connery (in favor of Groundskeeper Willie). Albert Finney is the man. But the part was meant for Sean.

Brosnan gets a lot of hate but I think it's misdirected.

His movies can be hit or miss (TND was a miss in my book), but he added some nice touches to the character.

It's the villains stupid plan that pisses me off.

What were the circumstances of his hacking the Chinese during the transition of Hong Kong? It seems like M switched out his cyanide for sodium hydrochloride? That explains why he is so mad at M. But I feel like I'm not getting the full effect.

Trivia: Brosnan told M in Die Another Day that he got rid of his cyanide capsule years ago. Avoid British products!

In addition to Heath Ledger, there are comparisons to be made with EisenLuthor.

I dunno. I'll give Silva a B+: he's well-acted and entertaining.

 

[Drdinnermint]

Delightful to see the back of M.

Sad to see the back of Connery (in favor of Groundskeeper Willie). Albert Finney is the man. But the part was clearly meant for Sean.


His movies can be hit or miss (TND is a miss in my book). But he usually added some nice touches to the character.
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I think Brosnan gets a lot more stick than he deserves but he was the Jim Hacker of mi6 : compromise Bond. An imitation of Moore who copied Dalton for the tough bits

 

[Absolutego]

Honestly I think Brosnan, at least visually, was made to play Bond, and if he had scripts in even the same stratosphere as the stuff Connery got we'd probably remember him as the ur-tier Bond.
He's one of those actors whose career I've very much enjoyed following after his blockbuster days ended. If anyone hasn't seen him playing an IRA boss-cum-politician in The Foreigner, they're missing out.

 

[Captain Syrup]

If anyone hasn't seen him playing an IRA boss-cum-politician in The Foreigner, they're missing out.

Pierce does a good job in The Ghost Writer. He can charm you with his demeanor, while at the same time having an undertone of menace about him.

 

[Foltest]

Pierce does a good job in The Ghost Writer. He can charm you with his demeanor, while at the same time having an undertone of menace about him.

My favorite of his post bonds is the matador.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

Check him out in No Escape, where he plays a former CIA guy. He looked better in 2015 than he did in Die Another Day. He's kind of hit the wall now, though, starting to seem a little elderly at 68. (Holy fuck!)

 

[ditto]

Additionally, the concept of Tomorrow Never Dies seems to be more relevant today than back in 1997.

Probably my favorite Brosnan film. Jonathan Pryce is very underrated. Brosnan was great in The Thomas Crown Affair which with a few tweaks would have been an awesome Bond movie.

Bond went downhill after he was replaced with Dalton and never recovered.

I don't get why the opinion is Licence To Kill is "too violent" and not Bond enough, yet the genital torture in Casino Royale is considered pure Fleming kino. Dalton should've taken over from Moore around Octopussy.

 

[MakaZA]

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Dalton was the most true to the character, imo. Craig had glimpses in his first two movies but TWINE Skyfall, Spectre, and The Unbearable Wokeness of Bond were so fucking boring and generic that they will forever taint his legacy.

Overall, the best has to be Moore. He had a couple really good movies, a darker movie in Golden Gun, and a couple of mediocre movies that were at least fun to watch and had catchy music and hot girls. Connery was ok, but Goldfinger is massively overrated and everything after that was a slog. (But still better than No Time 2 Die.)

I grew up on Brosnan Bond, and even as a kid I knew GoldenEye was his best movie. It's basically the unofficial 3rd Dalton movie. TND was okay (I love it for how 90s it is), and TWINE and DAD had some moments, but he was obviously phoning it in during the latter half of his tenure. I don't know if it's Babs taking over as producer, or making Pervis & Wade permanent writers, but after TND the series really started going to shit and I don't think it will ever recover. At least it won't until society itself changes, which I'm not sure it will.

Dalton IS James Bond for me but Casino Royale is my fabour bond film.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

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Dalton IS James Bond for me but Casino Royale is my fabour bond film.

He's undoubtedly the GOAT, but his movies were so cheap looking. LTK felt like a Cannon/Golan Globus movie edited for television.

I don't get why the opinion is Licence To Kill is "too violent" and not Bond enough, yet the genital torture in Casino Royale is considered pure Fleming kino. Dalton should've taken over from Moore around Octopussy.

It was too violent for people used to Roger Moore, and The Living Daylights didn't help being only slightly edgier than A View To A Rest Home. Also back then there were a lot of parental watchdog groups that bitched and moaned about everything and people actually listened to them; just look at the drop in violence between the first and second Ninja Turtles movies (effing yo-yos and sausage nunchuks).

 

[MakaZA]

Dalton was the most true to the character, imo. Craig had glimpses in his first two movies but TWINE Skyfall, Spectre, and The Unbearable Wokeness of Bond were so fucking boring and generic that they will forever taint his legacy.

Overall, the best has to be Moore. He had a couple really good movies, a darker movie in Golden Gun, and a couple of mediocre movies that were at least fun to watch and had catchy music and hot girls. Connery was ok, but Goldfinger is massively overrated and everything after that was a slog. (But still better than No Time 2 Die.)

I grew up on Brosnan Bond, and even as a kid I knew GoldenEye was his best movie. It's basically the unofficial 3rd Dalton movie. TND was okay (I love it for how 90s it is), and TWINE and DAD had some moments, but he was obviously phoning it in during the latter half of his tenure. I don't know if it's Babs taking over as producer, or making Pervis & Wade permanent writers, but after TND the series really started going to shit and I don't think it will ever recover. At least it won't until society itself changes, which I'm not sure it will.

To this day I still don't know If I love or dislike Skyfall so it's probably the latter.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

I've never seen the 60s version of Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again.

Are they worth checking out?

 

[ditto]

Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again.

Never Say Never Again is actually a pretty good action movie and has a way better Largo than Thunderball. But the 60s Casino Royale is unwatchable. That one from the 50s is better if only to see Peter Lorre as Le Chiffre.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Connery was great but he did a shitty job with Diamonds Are Forever.

Lazenby was great and I’m glad many people came around to this opinion in recent years.

Moore gets a lot of shit but it was clear For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, and A View to a Kill showed a stagnation in the series, even if the antagonists were interesting in the latter movie. I didn’t like the tone of his movies overall but he did a serviceable job at those.

Dalton is the best Bond if you judge him based on the books. Dalton is a great actor in his own right.

Brosnan had a lot of potential but was saddled with some of the shittiest movies, except for Goldeneye which as mentioned before was mostly a rewrite from a third potential Dalton movie.

Craig is my least favorite. At the time it seemed the studio wanted either Puff Daddy or guys like Hugh Grant. Daniel Craig felt like an example of a compromise nobody really wanted. His movies have all aged absolutely poorly but it’s a miracle the series didn’t go woke sooner so like Brosnan, it felt like he’d be a better Bond if the movies weren’t so bad or generic.

So for me it’s: Dalton > Connery > Lazenby > Brosnan > Moore > Craig

 

[Kyria the Great]

Never Say Never Again is actually a pretty good action movie and has a way better Largo than Thunderball. But the 60s Casino Royale is unwatchable. That one from the 50s is better if only to see Peter Lorre as Le Chiffre.

I know it sounds stupid, but I genuinely thought when I saw Never Say Never Again, I thought it was a made for TV given that despite in actuality was quite an expensive film and was missing many key things of a proper MGM Bond film.

 

[Drdinnermint]

I know it sounds stupid, but I genuinely thought when I saw Never Say Never Again, I thought it was a made for TV given that despite in actuality was quite an expensive film and was missing many key things of a proper MGM Bond film.

I felt the same about twine. All the stuff in Baku looks cheap as balls, like the pre collapsible sets on a universal studio ride

 

[Drdinnermint]

To this day I still don't know If I love or dislike Skyfall so it's probably the latter.

Purvis and wade are the big problem for me. They're just unimaginative hacks going through the motions

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

Purvis and wade are the big problem for me. They're just unimaginative hacks going through the motions

Their best movies were Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, both of which were rewritten by Paul Haggis because they're epic hacks. I can only imagine they were kept around so long because they were yes men who incorporated whatever bullshit came to Barbara Broccoli's mind that day.

I know it sounds stupid, but I genuinely thought when I saw Never Say Never Again, I thought it was a made for TV given that despite in actuality was quite an expensive film and was missing many key things of a proper MGM Bond film.

I think it was just the era; almost all early-80s movies look ugly. The opening song is awful, but I thought the action scenes were okay, and I liked Barbara Carrera's evil Bond Girl. It really suffers being a remake of Thunderball, though. (Check out the unrated Point of Impact for a lot more of Barbara Carrera.)

The producer tried to remake it again in the 90s with Timothy Dalton, and as retarded as that is it would have been nice to see a final movie from Dalton.

 

[Captain Autism69]

Dalton was the best Bond. Brosnan was good in Goldeneye, but he got shit scripts for the rest. Daniel Craig was good in Casino Royal, but after QoS, they went full bullshit. Skyfall was just a 'remeber this Bond fans!' 50th year anniversary movie or whatever.
The best 007 was the coon though.

 

[M3xus]

My first Bond was Brosnan in TND. As much as I like it (and how prescient it was about journalists), Moore's become my favorite over the years.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Moore's become my favorite over the years.

Well lot of it was just due to how charming,funny, sauve and how much Moore really loved the role and how it reflected in his role. Most all who dealt with Moore in real life quite actually liked the man and especially in his later years did tons of charity work in which he was truly proud of. Though A View To a Kill really would have benefited to having Dalton to be Bond due to Moore simply being too old for the role they were asking him to do.