James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

[TVB]

Well, it's been a few weeks, figured I'd look at this film's box office again and see how it stacks up to the first film. Once again, I'll mostly stick to domestic box office, since there's more data available for comparison.

Avatar 1 (2009) was #1 in the domestic box office for 7 weeks, finally dropping to #2 in week 8.
Avatar 2 (2022) was also #1 for 7 weeks, then fell to #3 in week 8.

Avatar 1 had a domestic box office of $637 million as of week 8. Total international box office was a bit shy of $2 billion.
Avatar 2 has a domestic box office of $640 million as of week 8. Total international box office so far is about $1.57 billion.

So Avatar 2 appears to be doing very similarly to the first film, thus far. However, Avatar 1's numbers are in 2009 dollars. If we adjust for inflation, Avatar 1's domestic box office at this point would be roughly $888 million, which means Avatar 2 is actually about a quarter of a billion dollars lower domestically than Avatar 1. Despite having basically zero competition over the last 8 weeks, and around 800 additional theaters for most of that time. Given that its daily totals are now falling below $1 million, it's questionable it'll reach $700 million.

Internationally, Avatar 2 is about $425 million behind the first film, but again, that's not taking inflation into account. If we take inflation into account, Avatar 1's international box office was over $2.70 billion, more than a billion beyond Avatar 2's current $1.57 billion international box office. Again, it's questionable it can make up another billion dollars at this point.

For further comparison, Top Gun: Maverick was at $625 million domestically in week 8, and Spider-Man: No Way Home was at $751 million. Which means that Avatar 2 is only slightly outperforming TG:M and is well behind NWH at this point in their respective runs, at least domestically.

Also, Avatar 1 sold a total of 98.7 million tickets in it's original domestic run (though tickets were $2 cheaper in 2009), Avatar 2 is a little over 70.5 million tickets so far. And TG:M and NWH sold 78.4 million and 88.3 million tickets, respectively. The Phantom Menace sold 85 million, The Force Awakens 88 million, Avengers: Endgame 94 million, and finally, Cameron's Titanic (1997) sold about 130 million tickets domestically.

We won Top Gun chads.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

This guy is one of Maulers acolytes so he's made a critique of the film that's longer than the film itself. Yes, longer than 3 hours But if like me you're laid up with manflu and rooted to the spot, it's something you can let run to see how little sense every little bit of the film makes.

At the very least I got a bit of schadenfreude listening to the opening segment or two, blasting all the retarded defences of the movie.

Not that I'm going to watch a 3+ hour review on a bad film, but TLP is a lot more tolerable than Mauler, thankfully. Mauler sounds too much like Sargon for my tastes, and just rambles endlessly without ever getting to a point.

And come to think of it, I've never heard Mauler reference a book he's read to make a comparison or demonstrate an idea, like TLP does at the start of this video with 'Brave New World'. I'm not sure Mauler reads books at all, if he did, you'd think he'd have made a few low-effort book review EFAPs at this point (anything by Ernest Cline, for example).

 

[TVB]

Not that I'm going to watch a 3+ hour review on a bad film, but TLP is a lot more tolerable than Mauler, thankfully. Mauler sounds too much like Sargon for my tastes, and just rambles endlessly without ever getting to a point.

And come to think of it, I've never heard Mauler reference a book he's read to make a comparison or demonstrate an idea, like TLP does at the start of this video with 'Brave New World'. I'm not sure Mauler reads books at all, if he did, you'd think he'd have made a few low-effort book review EFAPs at this point (anything by Ernest Cline, for example).

I don't want to watch a review that's just as long as the movie itself. Even reviews that are longer than the movie itself.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

I'm enjoying the meltdowns from Reddit and all the people butthurt at the success of this.

 

[Golfing on the Moon 1971]

People comparing numbers to Avatar 1 is nonsense. Avatar 1 was a black swan and thinking you can recreate a black swan is unrealistic. Avatar 1 was the last gasp of an era in which there existed a monolithic corporate-media infrastructure that could direct everyone's attention towards one thing. Now the internet has become widespread and there has been a great balkanization where people are off in their own niches. When Avatar 1 released, the groundbreaking CGI and the movie being made specifically for 3D was a novelty that drew more people and jacked up ticket prices, but now CGIfests are a dime a dozen and the crappy 3D movie conversions that followed Avatar's success jaded Western audiences on 3D. And ofcourse, streaming happened. There is now an opportunity cost: why go through the effort of getting dressed and spending half an hour to two hours driving to the theater and buying tickets and overpriced food and sitting in crappy chairs to watch a movie and then driving back home, when you could just sit in your sofa and eat your own food and instantly stream whatever you want? And there is so much entertainment at your fingertips that you will never run out. You're just not going to see Avatar 1 levels of success again. The conditions that precipitated that no longer exist.

To me, the real question is how well Avatar 3, 4, and 5 will do. Mainly 4 and 5. It will be difficult to compare Avatar 3 revenues to Avatar 2 because Avatar 2 had the nostalgia factor going for it. It had been 13 years since the first movie so people might be more inclined to have checked out the sequel than if the first movie had come out only a couple years prior. But then you also have the issue that the longer a series goes on, the more people get filtered out and fewer and fewer people make it to the end, so revenues are naturally going to decline by the 4th and 5th movies.

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

Not that I'm going to watch a 3+ hour review on a bad film, but TLP is a lot more tolerable than Mauler, thankfully. Mauler sounds too much like Sargon for my tastes, and just rambles endlessly without ever getting to a point.

And come to think of it, I've never heard Mauler reference a book he's read to make a comparison or demonstrate an idea, like TLP does at the start of this video with 'Brave New World'. I'm not sure Mauler reads books at all, if he did, you'd think he'd have made a few low-effort book review EFAPs at this point (anything by Ernest Cline, for example).

I'm mixed on The Little Platoon, especially after I recently discovered that most the limey reviewers I followed are a bunch of slimy, grifting cunts. Him being a faggot is a massive demerit, and his constant faggot jokes are repulsive, even if he generally uses them to make a point rather than go "I'm a disgusting deviant guise!", but on the other hand he generally is less of a pussy when it comes to calling out ideological bullshit consistently, and he seems right wing for a limey. I did listen to this review (well there's like twenty minutes left I'll do today during my workout), and I generally think he's on point, though he gets mired in nitpick shit at times, either out of frustration or to pad the length. It's just a really, really badly made film that has a lot of problems to point out, and he pointed out the lion's share of them and why they are dumb.

Still, his referencing Brave New World rather than the tired and off base 1984, combined with name dropping Antonio Gramsci gives me some hope he at least has a semblance of morals, unlike the other Brit reviewers. But I've also seen him defend EFAP, Mauler, Critical Drinker, and other immoral grifters, so who knows if this is another bait and switch in the making.

One thing I do like is what you pointed out: he's actually well read, actually makes some decent literary comparisons, and has some semblance of an idea about what he's speaking about. Mauler is just some dumb as rocks fat fuck that got lucky shitting on an almost universally reviled film, and has coasted that success since, and even then is too stupid to use it properly. He's spent literally hundreds of hours on internet drama and hanging with his buddies, while his main channel hasn't had an upload in almost half a year.