James Wan’s Call of Cthulhu - Howie goes to Hollywood

I think ol' HPL would be happy if he knew that he prevented his works getting destroyed by Hollyweird.

On the other hand...the tide is turning against DEI so perhaps there will be a time when his works are going to be used for big movies.
Much like Van Gogh, Lovecraft's legacy is so posthumous, and he was such a strange little weirdo in real life, that I don't think it's possible to imagine "what he would think" about his works being adapted. Personally, I imagine he'd find it pretty unfathomable no matter what.
 
Personally, I imagine he'd find it pretty unfathomable no matter what.
if he heard about CURRENT YEAR Hollywood he'd either
a) rip his own head off like Robocop 2
b) go on a killing rampage and then kill himself like Robocop 2
c) just get some booze and laugh about how right he was until he died
 
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if he heard about CURRENT YEAR Hollywood he'd either
a) rip his own head off like Robocop 2
b) go on a killing rampage and then kill himself like Robocop 2
c) just get some booze and laugh about how right he was until he died
I’d show him Lovecraft Country without telling him ahead of time what it was about and who was cast in it, then record his live reaction.

Or I’d show him that Cthulhu film where homos and gay sex are a main part of the plot.
 
Found this list for snippet regarding funding for the film:

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James Wan’s Upcoming Lovecraft Movie Has An Unlikely Solution To Development Hell

By Cathal Gunning
Published Jun 14, 2024

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  • Lovecraft's challenging visuals make The Call of Cthulhu difficult for filmmakers like Wan to adapt for the big screen.
  • Wan's horror expertise might be better suited for a television series adaptation of The Call of Cthulhu due to its cosmic scope.
  • A TV format would provide more room for Wan to explore the story's unsettling slow-burn tension and psychological elements.
While James Wan is mostly known as a multiplex legend, the horror director could benefit from downsizing his ambitions when it comes to his H.P. Lovecraft adaptation The Call of Cthulhu. While H.P. Lovecraft’s racism makes him a divisive figure in literary circles, his influence on the horror genre remains inescapable. The author is frequently credited with being one of the earliest writers to combine the tropes of cosmic horror into a cohesive whole, creating an immersive fictional world that has since been expanded by iconic writers like Stephen King, Alan Moore, and Thomas Ligotti.

Despite this outsized cultural impact, many of Lovecraft's best stories still need movie adaptations due to a major issue with his style. Much of Lovecraft's work concerns itself with nightmarish horrors that's difficult to imagine on the big screen. Even the best Lovecraft movie adaptations tend to struggle with depicting monsters like Yog-Sothoth or Cthulhu, which may explain why Lovecraft’s The Call of Cthulhu still hasn’t been made into a full-length movie. An experimental 2005 short film adapted the story, but even a modern master of horror hasn't been able to make a big-screen, big-budget update happen yet.
Director James Wan is one of the most financially successful horror directors in Hollywood history thanks to the Saw, Insidious, and Conjuring franchises and their spinoffs. Despite this, Wan admitted to Empire that his Call of Cthulhu movie might never happen thanks to its “very esoteric” story. The Call of Cthulhu is among Lovecraft’s most famous and influential stories, but this doesn’t mean that it is easily translated to the screen. James Wan’s best horror movies rely on implication as much as aggressive scares and gore, but The Call of Cthulhu’s horror is intrinsically psychological.

The Call of Cthulhu features a monster whose appearance alone is enough to drive the viewer to madness, as well as entire settings that bend the rules of gravity and geometry by their very existence. All of this is tricky for readers to visualize, but almost impossible for filmmakers to realize onscreen. It doesn’t help that director Guillermo Del Toro’s Lovecraft adaptation At The Mountains of Madness never happened since that scrapped project could have proven the potential of Wan’s passion project. That said, another Del Toro effort might be able to save James Wan’s The Call of Cthulhu.

James Wan’s Call of Cthulhu Could Work As A TV Series​

Lovecraft’s Work Has Succeeded On The Small Screen Before​

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Although the director never got to make his ambitious $150 million At The Mountains of Madness adaptation, Del Toro's Netflix show Cabinet of Curiosities did prove that Lovecraft adaptations might be better suited to television than film. Both the underrated Lovecraft Country and a standout episode of Love, Death, and Robots that featured Cthulhu underlined this idea. Although it might seem like the story’s cosmic scope makes the big-screen format a necessity, Wan’s The Call of Cthulhu could be a better fit for television.

While television budgets have ballooned in recent years, the format still comes with slightly lowered audience expectations when it comes to visual FX. On the small screen, Wan’s Lovecraft adaptation could aim for an aesthetic similar to 2017’s Twin Peaks: The Return. That experimental masterpiece offered viewers scenes of mind-bending horror and cosmic trippiness that, while not traditionally realistic, were unforgettably disturbing, weird, and effective. Wan’s many great movies prove he can switch between horror styles, from the gritty realism of Saw to the ghost dimensions of Insidious. Thus, this wouldn’t be a huge leap for the screen veteran.

A TV Show Gives Wan’s Call of Cthulhu More Room To Breathe​

Lovecraft’s Iconic Story Would Be Tough To Condense​

Since most of the original Lovecraft story’s scariest moments are reliant on slow-burn tension and subtle implications, Wan’s The Call of Cthulhu might actually benefit from switching to television due to the format’s longer runtime and more relaxed storytelling style. A big-screen adaption of the Lovecraft story would be expected to follow the same familiar story structure as Wan’s earlier efforts, which doesn’t gel well with Lovecraft’s style. Lovecraft's story is slow and many of its most unsettling moments take place in the character’s mind, which is where the comparatively permissive medium of television could help Wan.

With its lower budget and longer runtime, a television version of The Call of Cthulhu could allow Wan to approach the story via a more experimental lens. The director could turn The Call of Cthulhu into a multiple-hour movie, with each chapter fleshing out more of Lovecraft’s famous story. In the process, Wan could introduce more characters and potentially even tackle some of the problematic elements of Lovecraft’s work with a more diverse cast. This would be harder to pull off if Wan turned The Call of Cthulhu into a straightforward Hollywood horror movie.

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While H.P. Lovecraft’s racism makes him a divisive figure in literary circles, his influence on the horror genre remains inescapable
As if he was the only writer at that time who was racist. 🙄 He was comically racist because he was mentally ill but he also was a product of his time. But he can never be cancelled and that makes wokists seethe.
 
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Dude makes a sequel to everything except Malignant.

On topic: if this movie gets made expect meta commentary on the author's racism. There's no way the brave feminist writer ignores it
 
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The Call of Cthulhu features a monster whose appearance alone is enough to drive the viewer to madness, as well as entire settings that bend the rules of gravity and geometry by their very existence. All of this is tricky for readers to visualize, but almost impossible for filmmakers to realize onscreen.
Stop coping and just say you have no imagination, you fucking hacks.
What is "reading the fucking book"?
What is "look up fan art of R'lyeh for inspiration and come up with your own shit?"
 
Stop coping and just say you have no imagination, you fucking hacks.
What is "reading the fucking book"?
What is "look up fan art of R'lyeh for inspiration and come up with your own shit?"
Entertainment journalism has gotten so bad I assumed this article was written by AI. It reads like an awkward pitch to a board of out-of-touch investors at a multimedia conglomerate.
Wan could introduce more characters and potentially even tackle some of the problematic elements of Lovecraft’s work with a more diverse cast.
I can’t wait for the scene where a doddering, incompetent Gustaf Johansson gets shoved aside by a strong and powerful sassy black plus-sized ✨ kween ✨ who defiantly takes to the helm and rams the boat into Cthulhu’s head. A true and honest nautical negro.
 
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Wan could look to the SRS/GRS thread for inspiration. I'm sure "Dr" Sibhdbhdhbdbh Gallagher would be more than happy to provide creature effects.
 
Shit, not more Cthulhu Mythos shit... And Cthulhu isn't even the most pants-shittingly, mind-breakingly scary Old One either. Not by the distance from the Milky Way to the Andromeda Galaxy. And Jimmy W gets too much hype backing him as a horror film director/screenwriter. The last flick of his I watched was Malignant, I was drawn in by the uniqueness of it, but I wasn't like, "Fuckin' 'ell, I need to watch this again sometime in the nearest future!" The jumpscares are annoying too, as 90-98% of jumpscares usually are.
 
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Re-Animator doesn’t need another adaptation.
And Hollywood will never get close to a good spiritual sequel like Patchwork either.
Robert Eggers
That would be the kino to rule them all. Eggers' take on The Shadow Over Innsmouth or The Dunwich Horror would force me to not shit on A24 for two minutes. He already has a brilliant pick for Livina Whateley in Anya Taylor-Joy, specially post buccal fat removal.
I can see them deliberately misinterpreting the context this word was used in and making half the characters in the film flaming alphabet fags.
Flashback to the In Praise of Shadows faggot saying Lovecraft was trans/queer.

Making it a show just reminds me of the absolute waste that was True Detective not just rolling with cults inspired by copyright free novellas.
 
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As if he was the only writer at that time who was racist. 🙄 He was comically racist because he was mentally ill but he also was a product of his time. But he can never be cancelled and that makes wokists seethe.

As if journalists/wokists wouldn't also be racist if they were born and raised in Lovecraft's time. As if they wouldn't vote for the Nazi party in 1930's Germany.

As if people in the future year of 2040 won't look back at 2024 and judge the wokists in a negative light.

As if current year journalists/wokists won't be immune from the judgment of future people.
 
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I think ol' HPL would be happy if he knew that he prevented his works getting destroyed by Hollyweird.

On the other hand...the tide is turning against DEI so perhaps there will be a time when his works are going to be used for big movies.

Much like Van Gogh, Lovecraft's legacy is so posthumous, and he was such a strange little weirdo in real life, that I don't think it's possible to imagine "what he would think" about his works being adapted. Personally, I imagine he'd find it pretty unfathomable no matter what.

As if he was the only writer at that time who was racist. 🙄 He was comically racist because he was mentally ill but he also was a product of his time. But he can never be cancelled and that makes wokists seethe.

As if journalists/wokists wouldn't also be racist if they were born and raised in Lovecraft's time. As if they wouldn't vote for the Nazi party in 1930's Germany.

As if people in the future year of 2040 won't look back at 2024 and judge the wokists in a negative light.

As if current year journalists/wokists won't be immune from the judgment of future people.
Lovecraft was a nobody in his time, his works were the proto nerdy type as much as his fans. The only reason he got fame was recommendations from his more successful friends and the timing, which was a decade after he died. After WWI, no way no one was gonna buy into his cynical stories with bleak dark endings and no romance, especially in Prohibition when people were thirsting for booze or even after the Crash when fortunes were lost. Who wants to hear doomer stories when all that happened? HPL at some point that time was also kinda Socialist. After WWII and after his death the GIs and young men that came home grew tired of hero stories and wanted more stories that were graphic with blood and sex. So HPL's stories somehow got it's recognition.
 
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