Culture Jane Doe in Brock Turner Case Goes Public, Writes Memoir

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Brock Turner's sex assault victim makes her name public
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The woman who was sexually assaulted while unconscious outside a Stanford fraternity in 2015 is releasing a book and making her name public for the first time.



By Amy Hollyfield and Chris Nguyen
Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:12AM
The woman who was sexually assaulted while unconscious outside a Stanford fraternity in 2015 is releasing a book and making her name public for the first time.

Chanel Miller's book "Know My Name" will be released on Sept. 24.

Stanford law professor Michele Dauber is applauding the move.

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"She is a very talented writer and is good at making real the implications of sexual violence and the mishandling of sexual violence by powerful institutions," said Dauber.

Miller was sexually assaulted by Brock Turner. He was a freshman at Stanford at the time. She was a recent college graduate and was attending a Stanford fraternity party.

Wednesday afternoon, ABC7 News spoke to Congresswoman Jackie Speier, who led the efforts to have members of Congress read Miller's statement on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives in June of 2016.

RELATED: Judge Aaron Persky recalled over Brock Turner sentencing

"I'm looking forward to reading her memoir cause I'm sure it's going to be a powerful example of how we can overcome adversity," said Speier. "Let's never forget though that Brock Turner almost got off scot-free."

Judge Aaron Persky sentenced Turner to six months in county jail, even though he faced up to 14 years in prison. Persky said at the time he was worried about the impact a long sentence would have on Turner, a swimmer who once was considered a contender for the Olympics.

Take a look at full coverage of the Brock Turner sexual assault case.

Persky became the first California judge to be recalled in 80 years. Professor Dauber was the chairperson of the committee to recall Persky.

"I think people are going to read the book and be convinced that Aaron Persky had to go and the recall was correct. I want to point out that many victims of sexual violence are subjected every day to the same mistreatment from the legal system and universities like Stanford," Dauber said.

Stanford University released this statement:

"We applaud Ms. Miller's bravery in talking publicly about the ordeal she has experienced and the horrible act that she suffered on our campus. As a university, we are continuing our efforts to prevent and respond effectively to sexual violence, with the ultimate goal of eradicating it from our community."

Miller's book was profiled Wednesday morning in the New York Times. The paper says she was paid for the book but the publisher declined to say how much.

Lindsey Mansfield, a survivor's advocate with the YWCA of Silicon Valley, says the #MeToo movement continues to be empowering for many.

TIMELINE: How case against Brock Turner ignited debate on sexual assault

It's been more than a year since former Stanford swimmer Brock Turner was convicted of sexually assaulting a woman after a campus party.

"For some people, it may mean stepping forward and sharing something. For others, it may mean listening to other peoples' stories, or receiving support around their assault," said Mansfield.

Miller also gave an interview to 60 Minutes in advance of the release of her book.

Well this should be a shitshow.
 
Are you literally exceptional? I never said that you don't get to disagree with the judge and agree with the jury. I said that it's some hack shit to arbitrarily choose the jury as an authority on the truth, because they agree with you, and cite them in an argument as proof. While at the same time arbitrarily considering the judge NOT an authority because he disagrees with you.
The judge had a history of handing down cartoonishly lenient sentences: see the time he gave someone guilty of a truckload of CP possession charges 4 months. It isn't arbitrary when it's based on past behavior.
Also notice that the judge didn't say that Brock Turner didn't do it: he said that Brock Turner did do it but should just serve six months.
So entertain this hypothetical for me: if someone is a rapist, and is found guilty of rape, what is the sentence that you believe they should serve?
 
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had brain damage.
You see, there's this thing called nuance. Nuance means you can have an opinion that isn't completely binary. For example: with this case, I think that the legal proceedings went correctly up until the point of sentencing, at which point I believe the judge (who until this point has minimal involvement in the case) made a bad decision.
To illustrate nuance, let me give you an analogous situation: let's say I am a baker selling bread in an open-air market. To further add to this anachronism, let us say my wallet is stolen by an urchin. I call on the guard, the boy is arrested, and my wallet is returned. Now, however, the boy is going to have a hand cut off, because this is an anachronistic society where retributive punishment is still the norm. I object to this, because although the boy is a thief and does merit some kind of punishment, I believe the punishment is disproportionate to the crime.
This is how most people understand the world. What you are doing- trying to distill everything down into simple, binary choices- is called black-and-white thinking, and is usually seen as a sign of mental illness or emotional and mental immaturity.

"While in town the baker gives you a sweetroll. Delighted, you take it into an alley to enjoy, only to be intercepted by a gang of three kids your age. The leader demands the sweetroll, or else he and his friends will beat you and take it."
  • Act like you're going to give him the sweetroll, but at the last minute throw it in the air, hoping that they'll pay attention to it long enough for you to get a shot in on the leader?
  • Give him the sweetroll now without argument, knowing that later this afternoon you will have all your friends with you and can come and take whatever he owes you?
  • Drop the sweetroll and step on it, then get ready for the fight?
 
The judge had a history of handing down cartoonishly lenient sentences: see the time he gave someone guilty of a truckload of CP possession charges 4 months. It isn't arbitrary when it's based on past behavior.
Also notice that the judge didn't say that Brock Turner didn't do it: he said that Brock Turner did do it but should just serve six months.
So entertain this hypothetical for me: if someone is a rapist, and is found guilty of rape, what is the sentence that you believe they should serve?

Depends on the rape doesn't it? If it's one where both of the parties are so drunk, that but for the grace of god she might have been the rapist, I'd say six months is too much. Either way, you are still ignoring my point - don't fucking cite authorities if you strip them of their authorityhood the second they disagree with your tumblr tummyfeels.

Again, feel free to post any evidence I might have missed, I am genuinely openminded on this, if there is anything I will look at it and possibly change my mind. But as it stands I don't even think it raises itself to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" level.
 
She was passed out, outdoors, in an alley.

How often do people have consensual sex with unconscious partners in back alleys?

This wasn't a situation where the setting was ambiguous, so you could argue that he was too drunk to think through the consequences of what he was doing. He didn't take her home and then get a little too touchy during a drunken makeout session on his couch. This was obviously not a place to have sex, she was obviously not capable of consenting, and to top it all off, when he got caught, he tried to flee. How many people who think they're honestly engaging in acceptable acts book it when they get witnessed?

The dude was trying to rape her and got off lightly because of who he was. You can be skeptical of the Listen & Believe circus and still acknowledge that this was a heinous crime.
 
Yes, I'm the joke and not the man reading 8 levels deep into a shitpost. I don't want you to shut up. On the contrary, keep going. Please explain to me how Brock Turner dindu nothing, despite the fact that he's well breached the threshold where, I suspect, if Brock Turner's name was Abu Turmanijad, you would be calling for his head on a spike.

You can say whatever you want, and I can react to that however I want. That's what free speech absolutism means.
Lol what the fuck? I didn't say a single thing about Brock turner you dumb fag, if you ask me he should have his dick cut off. But I would also rather cut my dick off than tell people to stop voicing their crazy conspiracy theories in a shitposting forum. Because surprise! I knew what free speech absolutism meant The. Whole. Time. I know, mind blowing. And I still think you are hilariously pathetic for wondering out loud about going to tumblr to shame k-farmers.

Now, I believe you were in the middle of accusing a guy of not understanding simple logic to hide your inability to grasp his simple logic (or nuance, sorry, nuance) and I certainly don't want to give you the impression I am keeping you from that, in case you decide to accuse me of disrespecting some other random principle to distract from when you hilariously wondered out loud about going to tumblr to shame people on kiwifarms.
 
She was passed out, outdoors, in an alley.

How often do people have consensual sex with unconscious partners in back alleys?

This wasn't a situation where the setting was ambiguous, so you could argue that he was too drunk to think through the consequences of what he was doing. He didn't take her home and then get a little too touchy during a drunken makeout session on his couch. This was obviously not a place to have sex, she was obviously not capable of consenting, and to top it all off, when he got caught, he tried to flee. How many people who think they're honestly engaging in acceptable acts book it when they get witnessed?

The dude was trying to rape her and got off lightly because of who he was. You can be skeptical of the Listen & Believe circus and still acknowledge that this was a heinous crime.

Well, considering that if you believe his side of the story she wasn't unconscious when they started to have sex, your whole argument boils down to - "lol, as if two extremely drunk teenagers would have sex in a alley!".
 
She was passed out, outdoors, in an alley.

How often do people have consensual sex with unconscious partners in back alleys?

The dude was trying to rape her and got off lightly because of who he was. You can be skeptical of the Listen & Believe circus and still acknowledge that this was a heinous crime.
And who his family is. Money talks, bullshit walks.
 
I welcome whatever ratings I get. Those who minimize the whole finger banging as < Brock no put his pee or in= no rape really don't get the idea of bodily autonomy. Sure, you shouldn't go walking in a bad neighborhood at night with your expensive watch hanging out. Does that mean you should have a foreign object forcibly put into your body without your knowledge or consent?
I'm pretty sick of the perception of a person putting themselves at risk of robbery as somehow the same as a woman walking alone at night. A robbery victim may lose money, get hurt, but unless it's a bizarre case of something more than robbery, I doubt he'll have foreign objects pushed into him, biological contaminants introduced into his system, possible pregnancy, possibly being ostracized or ejected from family or community...
Yeah, you should pay attention to where you walk at night. But to equate rape to mugging? Fuck you. And not nicely. Fuck you like someone jabbing you with a dirty needle while you're asleep on your pal's couch to see if you wake up. It's no big deal, right?

I don't think that everyone who points out that the crime in this case involved digital penetration is necessarily doing so in order to minimize the violation. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people in this thread believe it likely that Turner would've progressed to PIV rape if he hadn't been interrupted, and was digitally penetrating her at the time they were discovered either because he couldn't yet get it up due to intoxication, or because he was rationalizing the fingering as "foreplay" in some sick way. But I do think it's important to stick to the facts of the case as they happened, certainly not to downplay what occurred, but to be realistic in assessing the harm done to the victim given the circumstances. No one is trying to argue that digital penetration makes the case somehow less heinous, but you yourself recognize that PIV rape comes with a unique set of potential harmful consequences (pregnancy, disease). Similarly, some particularly brutal cases of penetration by foreign object can cause acute internal injury, permanent disability, and even death. Acknowledging this reality doesn't mean you're trying to downplay what occurred in any particular case, or that you don't understand the concept of bodily autonomy, or that you think rape is "no big deal" -- the fair administration of justice requires us to weigh the particular factors of each case, evaluate the harm done to the victim, and sentence the perpetrator accordingly. Personally I try to give the benefit of the doubt to those who maybe don't know the facts of the case due to distrust in the media, or those who advocate for personal responsibility/not getting oneself in high-risk situations because they see common sense being ignored in the messaging of rape prevention.
 
A liberal judge gave him mercy - but a handful of fucking kiwifarmers of all people being skeptical around a feminism related media story THATS TOO MUCH MAAN
You can be mad about more than one thing at a time. Shocking huh?

Well, considering that if you believe his side of the story she wasn't unconscious when they started to have sex, your whole argument boils down to - "lol, as if two extremely drunk teenagers would have sex in a alley!".
There are two witnesses who said otherwise.
 
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No they didn’t. Or are you saying these gentlemen saw him before the intercourse began?

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She was fucking passed out in public, and this piece of shit was found guilty of assault with intent to rape. As obtuse as you are, I know you're mad and bitter over the "believe all women" bullshit - most people here are. But your take of doubting all women is just as dumb.

You give the #metoo crowd ammo with their propaganda by fucking sperging out over a convicted rapist.
 
The JUDGE let him off easy likely because of his dad. He was later disbarred.

The DA originally charged him with 2 counts of rape, 2 counts of felony sexual assault, and 1 charge of attempted rape. Because California law is exceptional as fuck, at the time "digital penetration" wasn't considered rape. The DA knew they weren't going to get convictions on the rape and attempted rape charges because the definition matters, even though it's obvious that what Turner was doing qualifies as rape, per the FBI definition.

I know the judge made some kind of claim about time served factoring in, but I can't remember it precisely, and it seemed like a stupid claim anyways, so I'm not going to go find it.

And I don't recall seeing anything about Judge Persky being disbarred, although he was recalled from the bench.

DiD tH3Y s3E h1M b3-4 t3h 1nTErc0UR53 8eG4N?????????

She was fucking passed out in public, and this piece of shit was found guilty of assault with intent to rape. As obtuse as you are, I know you're mad and bitter over the "believe all women" bullshit - most people here are. But your take of doubting all women is just as dumb.

You give the #metoo crowd ammo with their propaganda by fucking sperging out over a convicted rapist.

See above - he was initially charged with 5 counts - 2 counts of rape, 2 counts of felony sexual assault, 1 count of attempted rape. Because California is exceptional, their legal definition of rape at the time DID NOT INCLUDE FINGER-BANGING A PASSED OUT CHICK AS RAPE. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat that he's "a convicted rapist", or "he was found guilty of (anything related to rape), because he's wasn't - the DA wasn't going to get a conviction on the rape charges, because the definition is important, and there's no way that you can find a man guilty of someone that isn't covered in the definition of the charges laid, AFAIK.

I agree that's exceptional as fuck, it's wrong as hell, and he should have been convicted of rape, because a shit-ton of US jurisdictions, the FBI, and other non-exceptional places all consider digital penetration without consent to be rape.


It also bears pointing out that the victim, during the trial, is recorded as saying she had no memory of some portion of her evening at the frat party she attended, and had no recollection of leaving the party, so I'm not sure what her memoirs are going to be about, other than the memories of everything after waking up 3 hours after the assault occurred.
 
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DiD tH3Y s3E h1M b3-4 t3h 1nTErc0UR53 8eG4N?????????

She was fucking passed out in public, and this piece of shit was found guilty of assault with intent to rape. As obtuse as you are, I know you're mad and bitter over the "believe all women" bullshit - most people here are. But your take of doubting all women is just as dumb.

You give the #metoo crowd ammo with their propaganda by fucking sperging out over a convicted rapist.
I get it. This thing has probably been grandfathered in in your brain as “now THIS is a real rapist” and it’s world shattering to just accept that in fact there is a lot of “reasonable doubt” here. That’s why all you got is emotions. Clean yourself up at least Lex had some obtuse arguments. Again, I welcome any evidence that disputes Brock’s very plausible story.
 
I get it. This thing has probably been grandfathered in in your brain as “now THIS is a real rapist” and it’s world shattering to just accept that in fact there is a lot of “reasonable doubt” here. That’s why all you got is emotions. Clean yourself up at least Lex had some obtuse arguments. Again, I welcome any evidence that disputes Brock’s very plausible story.
It's clear that you aren't interested in a discussion. You're here to REE about how Brock Turner was a good boi and this is just SJWs run amok. I will fully bite the bullet in saying this: I have a strong belief that if Brock Turner was black or Muslim, you wouldn't be leaping through hoops to defend him.
 
It's clear that you aren't interested in a discussion. You're here to REE about how Brock Turner was a good boi and this is just SJWs run amok. I will fully bite the bullet in saying this: I have a strong belief that if Brock Turner was black or Muslim, you wouldn't be leaping through hoops to defend him.
I'm the only one making arguments and asking for evidence in this "discussion".
And deflection.
 
He shouldn't have tried anything with her while she was passed out. Who wants to fuck a sleeping person? I figured sentient people are a lot better because you can see their reactions and shit. Brock is pos and he should have served his full term, but people need to be a little more aware of the situations they put themselves in. That doesn't mean she deserved to be raped or assaulted. It just means people need to be more careful. Even if that means you shouldn't get shit faced in public which is fucking dumb anyway. Know your limits. Drink plenty of water and eat something before you decide to drink. Make arrangements for someone to take your ass home. Peace.
I'm the only one making arguments and asking for evidence in this "discussion".
And deflection.
Hon two people caught him in the act.
 
Well, considering that if you believe his side of the story she wasn't unconscious when they started to have sex, your whole argument boils down to - "lol, as if two extremely drunk teenagers would have sex in a alley!".
Okay are you actually so dumb that you believe everything a defendant says? He had no other plausible excuse. He literally got caught wet-handed. It's the exact same genius legal defense as dudes who are "just minding their own business" when they get shot by another guy they have "never met before in their life". If you buy that shit, you should check out timeshares.
 
"While in town the baker gives you a sweetroll. Delighted, you take it into an alley to enjoy, only to be intercepted by a gang of three kids your age. The leader demands the sweetroll, or else he and his friends will beat you and take it."
  • Act like you're going to give him the sweetroll, but at the last minute throw it in the air, hoping that they'll pay attention to it long enough for you to get a shot in on the leader?
  • Give him the sweetroll now without argument, knowing that later this afternoon you will have all your friends with you and can come and take whatever he owes you?
  • Drop the sweetroll and step on it, then get ready for the fight?

Alert the guards who proceed to make fun of you for having your sweetroll stolen
 
I'm the only one making arguments and asking for evidence in this "discussion".
And deflection.
No, people are telling you "He did it, he was caught with his fingers in her snatch and ran away, two completely unconnected witnesses saw him do it, more witnesses saw him leaving with her being blackout drunk, she was literally unconscious, under what possible definition is this not rape?" and you're saying "Well, he said he dindu it, and I didn't personally, with my own eyes see him do it, and anyways it was just a couple of fingers, so what's the big deal?"
Magically turning into an idealistic babby with no object permanence on one issue when you act like a cynical asshole on others tends to indicate a serious bias.
 
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