Culture Janet Mock Demands More Pay for ‘Pose’ in Fiery Speech at Premiere: ‘You Have Stomped on Us’ - Why am I making $40,000 a motherfucking episode? Huh? Do you know who the fuck I am?

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At the emotional New York City premiere for the third and final season of Pose on Thursday night, there were tears and there were truths. In the case of executive producer and director Janet Mock, who delivered a remarkable, at times uncomfortable and messy, and possibly industry-changing speech, there were dramatic examples of both.

“Fuck Hollywood,” she said early on in her address to the audience, which lasted about 15 minutes. “This makes you uncomfortable? It should. It should make you fucking shake in your motherfucking boots. This is speaking the truth. This is what Pose is.”

The socially distanced, COVID-safe event took place at Jazz at Lincoln Center. It was one of the first major in-person premieres of its kind this year in New York and the first that FX, which will premiere the new season of Pose on Sunday, has hosted in well over a year.

Attendees included the show’s cast—each dressed in jaw-dropping red carpet wear—and creative team, FX executives, and a few dozen critics and journalists, all individually escorted to seats dotted across the auditorium. A theater at Jazz at Lincoln Center has never looked so sparsely occupied. But also, after these last 15 months, so full.

There is no better show than Pose to usher the industry into a cautious new normal at this point in the pandemic. It is a series about survival, about the power of family and community, and about confronting the harsh realities that too often get overlooked, because it’s easier or makes people more comfortable.

For Mock, that meant departing from the show’s party line about its trans talent being given what they’re worth. Instead, she called out those who capitalized on their stories without paying them what they’re owed.

For co-creators Ryan Murphy and Steven Canals, that meant acknowledging the impact of a revolutionary show.

“In my career that has now lasted for 25 years, It is the most important thing that I’ve been a part of,” Murphy said about Pose. “And it is the thing I think that I’m the most proud to consider myself a part of.”

Canals recounted how he took 166 meetings in Los Angeles trying to get Pose made. On the 167th meeting, he met executive producer Sherry Marsh, who introduced him to Ryan Murphy, who not only agreed to make the show but to make it with Canals.

He ended his remarks with a heartfelt thank you to Mock for her support, concluding, “It is not lost on me that, as a cis man, my career and this story is built on the backs of Black and Afro-Latinx trans women who have told the best story of all. So thank you, especially, to the women of our show.”


When Mock took the mic, it’s fair to assume that most of the 100 people in the audience expected the love fest and the message of progress and appreciation to continue. But it quickly became clear that she had things to get off her chest.

She demanded to know why she was only paid $40,000 an episode for her work on the show. She made an ovation to her boyfriend, Angel Bismark Curiel, who plays Lil Papi, seeming to ask for forgiveness after cheating on him.

A series of call and responses were meant to uplift trans cast members who she felt were underestimated. And she noted that the first two episodes of the series didn’t live up to the quality of the rest of the run because they were written by men. She then called to Murphy in the audience, asking him to repeat several times what he did to make the show better: “I wanted to bring in the girls,” he said, referring to Mock and Our Lady J, who joined the writers' room.

The speech began in tears at a podium with Mock barely able to speak, before it exploded across the stage, with the star grabbing the handheld mic and pacing back and forth as if delivering a sermon.

“This is what Pose taught me,” she began. “I stand up taller in the world because of this show. I know that I matter because of this show. I have a voice because of this show.”

She said that the bright attitude she previously projected was a responsibility: “I was happy because I had to be happy. Because if I wasn’t happy the girls wouldn’t know that happiness is possible.” But it was masking the truth, she said. “I’m hurting y’all. I see injustice and it hurts me inside.”


“When a talent asks you for a suite, you give them a suite because they need it,” she said. She singled out cast members Hailie Sahar, Dominique Jackson, Angelica Ross, and Mj Rodriguez, toasting their talent and shaming everyone who undervalued or underestimated them because they were pretty or inexperienced.

At her most passionate, she demanded to know why she wasn’t paid more for her work. “Why am I making $40,000 a motherfucking episode? Huh? Do you know who the fuck I am? Do you know what I fucking mean? Huh? I am angry. This is truth. This is motherfucking truth.”

She apologized to co-executive producer Our Lady J, saying, “I tried to shrink you to make myself bigger. Why couldn’t I just love you?”

The speech ended on a note of accountability, and that meant piercing through the talking points, the ones tied up in a bow about inclusivity, opportunity, and progress that have been served to the media over the last three seasons. She mocked the standard line in a sing-song voice: “It means so much to everyone to ensure that we enable Black and brown trans women to make it…”

“That sounds good, right?” she said. “It makes you comfortable, me talking like that. Because then I don't scare you into facing the fucking truth: You all have stomped on us.”

It was a brave, unexpected speech—one that certainly caught its audience by surprise, all of whom were nervously at an event for the first time in over a year and rendered breathless and, occasionally, uneasy by Mock’s passion and candor.

It’s the kind of scorched-earth truth-telling that you might hear the executives and industry figures Mock called out publicly praise for its honesty in pursuit of change. Then you wonder what they actually are going to say about it, or about Mock, behind closed doors. Historically, that’s what happens when marginalized people demand their worth.

At the very least, we can ask for some bravery from these people with the suits, the purse strings, and the power: This time don’t do the two-faced whispering. This time listen, process, and act.

Mock repeatedly acknowledged that what she was saying was making people uncomfortable. That’s what the truth does, especially when it sets off a grenade to expectations, like the ones 100 people had when filing into the premiere of Pose, the first “post-pandemic event,” on Thursday night. It scratches at you, until you finally address the itch. It’s how you treat it that matters.

The most moving moment came when Mock openly wondered if by saying all this she may have just ruined her career. “As I stand here, I’m shaking and quaking, afraid that what I said I cannot put back in.”

In the silence that followed, her trans sisters in the audience—including co-stars Dominique Jackson, Indya Moore, Angelica Ross, and Hailie Sahar—all started to speak up: “You are safe.” “We love you, Janet.” “Thank you for saying it.”


“My sisters, right?” Mock responded. “What did they say when I almost fell down just now?”

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The rest of the article just rims Pose, the show that tanked in viewership in season 2 with season 1 not having great ratings to begin with
 
This article is such trash. You and your manager negotiated a contract, that's why you make $40k per episode. If you demanded more, the producers would have just found someone else.

So much talk about the "truth" and making people uncomfortable. No, that's not how reasonable and civilized people act. People aren't scared because you are opening their eyes to some hidden knowledge, it's because you come off as an unhinged lunatic.

It's funny that he admitted that he "shrunk" another co-producer to make himself "bigger". Just come right out and say you will screw other people for your own personal gain. These people are complete scum, even for Hollywood standards, and they are proud of it.

This person will never work again, and not only because he was a token hire of "trannies need to direct trannie shows", but now because future producers see what they potentially have to deal with.
 
All the suffering everyone has been enduring this last year and this fucking asshole has the nerve to stand up there and run their mouth about "only" being paid $40,000 and not getting a suite when they wanted it.

Repeat after me: FUCK OFF

This fucking malignant narcissist thinks they're better than me, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, FUCK YOU.

It's been a long time since an article has made me this mad lmao, remember when FX used to have shows like Rescue Me, about a red headed Irish American white guy and not shows about sociopaths like this? What has happened to our culture?

If there's any justice this will sink this psycho's career, I can guarantee you this stupid show was nothing but a money loser for the network and this piece of shit thinks they should have been losing even MORE money instead of being grateful for what they got? Fuck the hell right off.

It's not your money you fuckstick, you have no right to waste other people's money like that., the world doesn't revolve around you, no one has to treat you like fucking royalty.

Ungrateful piece of absolute shit.

Part of why this makes me so mad is this is all a great big hustle and shake down for money, this piece of shit doesn't care about anyone but themselves, they don't care about helping anyone, trans or otherwise, they care about making money and whatever makes them look good.
I have long been a proponent of treating actors the way Ancient Rome did:
Actors, in Roman society, were considered to hold a lower, dangerous status and were often avoided.

Ironically, the emperor Tiberius, definitely not a man known for his chaste nature, once urged those of high society and actors to avoid interacting with one another. Julian the Apostate would later prohibit pagan priests from attending theater so that the theater and actors did not receive any elevation in status because of their attendance.
I honestly do not know why people take the opinion of actors seriously. They are no more qualified to talk about most topics than the general population. If I wanted advice on a topic I would be better off trusting this:
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Since it can't fucking speak it cannot be wrong nor say something retarded.
 
It's textbook abuse
It is and the fact that even by Woke standards Mock is a selfish asshole but they’re probably going to let it slide anyway is really bad.

Actors and actresses should be paid barely above minimum wage. You're glorified dancing monkeys for the masses entertainment
They should be paid relative to what they’re earning for the project.

Mock is not a major star and Pose is not a ratings smash hit, I’d say 40,000 was a very high salary for every single episode, this moron complaining about it likes that’s not a lot of money is just hilarious, the fact that they’re so narcissistic that they can’t see how bad it makes them look is also hilarious

Damn. I met Mock years ago at a discussion and signing for her book “Redefining Realness,” which is still on my shelf. She seemed really down-to-earth and pleasant, and I couldn’t believe this was the same person.

What an ungrateful narcissistic cunt.
Emphasis on “years ago”, the nicest thing I will say about Mock is the cultural climate has encouraged this kind of behavior for years now.

Not that that makes them in any way blameless.

I have long been a proponent of treating actors the way Ancient Rome did:

I honestly do not know why people take the opinion of actors seriously. They are no more qualified to talk about most topics than the general population. If I wanted advice on a topic I would be better off trusting this:
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Since it can't fucking speak it cannot be wrong nor say something retarded.
I don’t even have that negative an opinion about actors but of course their opinions are no more important or well informed than anyone else’s.
 
Have you been living on another planet since the beginning of the Obama Administration?
I get it, but it was just that one particular quote that got to me. It's such a meme at this point that I can't realistically see even the most sheltered of rich people saying "do you knooooooww who I aaammmmm?????" But you learn something new everyday.

We need video of her "speech."
 
A lot of older gays get very, very salty if you suggest that rampant promiscuity had anything at all to do with the AIDS crisis. The fact is, it wouldn't have been a crisis in the first place if gays had just kept it in their pants and had some standards. Even after it was widely known that the disease could be transmitted through buttfucking they still kept on with the orgies and anonymous hookups, because coomer's gonna coom.

There were meltdowns at the time over that. The man who wrote "How To Survive A Plague" was cancelled over saying that gays should limit their sex partners.

The fact that it was a question about whether the bathhouses should be closed or not is astonishing. Gays really do think that having access to multiple partners is a civil right.
 
I mean, lets not villify actors, movies and series are just another expression of the human spirit, and a great perfomance can move you to tears, whatever in a small play or a big blockbuster. And they should be paid accordingly on how much box office they make or if they have a long history of great perfomances, kindda like an athlete. I dont want sleazy producers to keep all the money.
The main problem here is that they get big plataforms and big egos, not all of them, and in this case, its really tone deaf to complain about a 40k salary when people have suffered so much during the pandemic, specially to other trans people that might have had to resort to things like prostitution to survive.
 
I mean, lets not villify actors, movies and series are just another expression of the human spirit, and a great perfomance can move you to tears, whatever in a small play or a big blockbuster. And they should be paid accordingly on how much box office they make or if they have a long history of great perfomances, kindda like an athlete. I dont want sleazy producers to keep all the money.
The main problem here is that they get big plataforms and big egos, not all of them, and in this case, its really tone deaf to complain about a 40k salary when people have suffered so much during the pandemic, specially to other trans people that might have had to resort to things like prostitution to survive.
Watch the drek this whore is shilling before claiming it's worth $40k.
 
The only thing I'm wondering is if the coked out whore still has a dick or a frankenpussy. Those things can't take a pounding and he really gets around.
 
The only thing I'm wondering is if the coked out whore still has a dick or a frankenpussy. Those things can't take a pounding and he really gets around.

Not sure if they've got a dick or psuedo-vag, but Mock must have some pretty big balls to complain about not being paid enough before apologizing for fucking one of the actors (then cheating on them) and deliberately undermining another writer on the show.
 
I mean, lets not villify actors, movies and series are just another expression of the human spirit, and a great perfomance can move you to tears, whatever in a small play or a big blockbuster. And they should be paid accordingly on how much box office they make or if they have a long history of great perfomances, kindda like an athlete. I dont want sleazy producers to keep all the money.
The main problem here is that they get big plataforms and big egos, not all of them, and in this case, its really tone deaf to complain about a 40k salary when people have suffered so much during the pandemic, specially to other trans people that might have had to resort to things like prostitution to survive.
It’s not a 40K salary. It’s 40K per episode. If there’s 13 episodes, they make $520K in a year, if more episodes- more money.

They’re treating what some people make in a year, that they make in what- a day or two?, as though they are utterly deprived.
 
The only thing I'm wondering is if the coked out whore still has a dick or a frankenpussy. Those things can't take a pounding and he really gets around.
He claims he got the chop in Thailand years ago. He most likely had a chaser daddy funding it, though most of Mock’s stories about his past are suspect. He went from being a teenaged troon prostitute at 16 to attending an NYU masters program a few years later? Ok.
It’s not a 40K salary. It’s 40K per episode. If there’s 13 episodes, they make $520K in a year, if more episodes- more money.

They’re treating what some people make in a year, that they make in what- a day or two?, as though they are utterly deprived.
There are, IIRC, seven episodes this season. But he also directs episodes as well as serving as a writer and EP. He’s most likely making more from having multiple roles behind the scenes.

Mock is lucky they even got to make a third season with the coof shutting production down everywhere last year; the show had already been given its walking papers from FX by that point. Far superior shows (*cough* GLOW) were just given the axe, no warning, even after they’d already started shooting.
 
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