Japan’s Stagnation - What caused Japan’s lost decades? Plaza accords? US bans on Japanese semiconductor sales? Or Japan’s own misguided policies?

[Climaxing Sunset]

Japan as a country is still a reasonably well developed nation with an aging population now, and a very low birthdate (only South Korea’s is lower).

Growing up, Japanese products such as their cars (Toyota, Subaru, Nissan, Mazda, Suzuki, Isuzu), their bikes (Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki), and their electronics (Sony, Sharp, Toshiba, Sanyo, AIWA, Nintendo, SEGA, NEC amongst others) we’re the top of the line.

In particular the 1980s was seen as the highest point of Japanese power and prestige, with fears that japan would surpass the US economically speaking.

But what happened? People like to blame the Plaza accords for Japan Inc.’s downfall but I think that’s not just that. I blame Japan’s lack of entrepreneurship as a main reason of their decline. Their inability to change is a problem. I think the Gooks and Chinks took notes on Japan as to not repeat the same mistakes themselves. What are your thoughts on Japan’s decline? Could Japan have been a powerful country?

 

[Colon capital V]

When your entire country hinges on working people to death to the point where the new generation sees no point in reproducing because it'll get in the way of their success:

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Follow the history of their debased Rothschild-derivative fiat currency. What Americanda is really starting to go through has been ongoing in Nippon for 30+ years now. All fiat ponzis return to their inherent value, Zero - all it takes is time and for plebs to finally wake up to how they have been robbed generationally by unelected Central Bankerbergs. Japan continues to work longer for less, everything in every industry is debased and cutting corners, that's the evil of the invisible Inflation tax. While Americanda has only begun to print Trillions of worthless fiat notes, Japan has been at Quadrillions for years. Being an (((Americandan))) client state has zero benefits, and using Jewish ponzi derivatives as your national "currency" makes you a Slave nation.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

As bad as the situation is for Japan right now I can guarantee that in a decade or two the situation in South Korea, Taiwan, and China will be far worse.

 

[Freya]

I think people really overstate it.
Japan has over 125 million people, is still one of the largest exporters in the world. It is just impossible to maintain explosive growth indefinitely. They live on an island about the size of California and most of it is too mountainous to live on. There's only so much they can do

 

[Strix454]

But what happened?

Japan reached the limits of its possible economic growth. It was a large, expensive, fully mature rather stagnant economy with an aging population. At the end of the 1980s, South Korea managed to transition into a somewhat workable democracy. And by the mid-1990s, China became the place to invest money into.
Japan is STILL a massive economy, but its not a growing economy.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I feel bad for the Asians because not only do they seem to be dealing with a lot of the same issues the US are, on top of it they also have very small PPs and one black woman could beat up like 7 standard Asian men if she was especially angry.

Jokes aside, it's not like Japan is somehow unique. There's a lot of stagnation all around all over the place, and looking at the white middle class in the US I feel like it's tough to throw stones in terms of stuff like work culture and birth rate.

I think people really overstate it.
Japan has over 125 million people, is still one of the largest exporters in the world. It is just impossible to maintain explosive growth indefinitely. They live on an island about the size of California and most of it is too mountainous to live on. There's only so much they can do

Well then they should get up in their giant robots and conquer some more land.

 

[The Backwards Man]

Oh no, the zipperhead island everyone loves for some reason will be slightly less crowded and produce a little bit less shit in 10 years than it is now.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

Anime and it's consequences...

 

[Elderly Homosexual Negro]

" They need more niggers" - Some Jew, Probably.

 

[melty]

Klaus Schwab argues in The Great Reset that Japan is actually fine. Since he's the elite in charge of the economy or whatever he probably knows what he's talking about.

The "Japanification" of the (rich) world is often depicted as a hopeless combination of no growth, no inflation and insufferable debt levels. This is misleading. When the data is adjusted for demographics, Japan does better than most. Its GDP per capita is high and growing and, since 2007, its real GDP per member of the popular has risen faster than in any other G7 country. Naturally, there are many idiosyncratic reasons for this (a very high level of social capital and trust, but also labour productivity growth that surpasses the average, and a successful asorbtion of elderly workers into the labour force), but it shows that a shrinking population doesn't have to lead to economic oblivion. Japan's high living standards and well-being indicators offer a salutory lesson that there is hope in the face of economic hardship.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Can you imagine being a typical salaryman in the Reiwa period (so far anyway)?

Not only is there overwork, but now you gotta wear a "face mask" all the time in public.

And then there is that whole "relationships are too much trouble" and sexless thing too.

 

[biglurker]

Japan is just going through what every modernized country is going through. Boomers run everything and hoard wealth/property. This doesn't allow younger people to prosper and reproduce like they did. They are also at a disadvantage generally because the typical boomer, regardless of race, doesn't teach their children.. well anything. No one can take risks or is too old to consider risks so you stagnate. The japs just felt it earlier than us, so we consider them unique. There was no avoiding it.

 

[Antenna7]

I only interesting new thing I've seen come of Japan lately is this group. Started training when they were 12-14. The Japanese company, hired a former Kpop idol to lead the project. Then hired an international gaggle of writers, musicians, rappers, producers, etc to train them to dance, sing and rap in English. And while doing that, taught them English and Korean. And then sent them off to South Korea.

 

[skykiii]

I've made it no secret that as much as I like Japanese media, I kinda don't like the actual country. The short version is Japan strikes me as a nation run by literal manchildren. A lot of their attitudes and policies strike me as having like a ten-year-old's degree of logic.

"Hey, if we charge high prices for physical media, we'll make more money!"

"Hey, if we ban video game rentals, people have to buy everything!"

"If anyone ever confesses to crime, it means they're guilty!" I can only imagine Japan is a literal nation of criminals who are just really good at pinning evidence on somebody else.

Then of course you read about the headstrong tactics of companies like Nintendo and Konami and its like... no wonder these guys backed the Nazis in World War II.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

They live on an island about the size of California and most of it is too mountainous to live on. There's only so much they can do

more like almost the entire western us coast but close enough

 

[Pootato]

I think people really overstate it.
Japan has over 125 million people, is still one of the largest exporters in the world. It is just impossible to maintain explosive growth indefinitely. They live on an island about the size of California and most of it is too mountainous to live on. There's only so much they can do

I agree, and we in western europe are in the same boat but thinking we can fix it with unlimited immigration. The crime statistics prior to 2016 shows it is a great succes and after 2016 they have stopped reporting so.........its great. At least Japan has control over its own borders.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

The US literally fucking kneecapped their economy with the Plaza Accords. Literally that’s the cause, they had other issues, but the US took their billy club and went ham.

 

[skykiii]

What even are these "Plaza Accords" you guys keep bringing up? I would Google it, but I expect the answer I get from Wikis to be highly technical and make no sense without having to click five other hotlinks.

 

[Tenshi Eating A Corn Dog!]

I've made it no secret that as much as I like Japanese media, I kinda don't like the actual country. The short version is Japan strikes me as a nation run by literal manchildren. A lot of their attitudes and policies strike me as having like a ten-year-old's degree of logic.

"Hey, if we charge high prices for physical media, we'll make more money!"

"Hey, if we ban video game rentals, people have to buy everything!"

"If anyone ever confesses to crime, it means they're guilty!" I can only imagine Japan is a literal nation of criminals who are just really good at pinning evidence on somebody else.

Then of course you read about the headstrong tactics of companies like Nintendo and Konami and its like... no wonder these guys backed the Nazis in World War II.

Certain countries (maybe all of them in one form or another) are struck by an autism of some sort. Every native of that country is afflicted. The Germans are very similar in this regard.