Japan’s Stagnation - What caused Japan’s lost decades? Plaza accords? US bans on Japanese semiconductor sales? Or Japan’s own misguided policies?

[Alex Hogendorp]

It wouldn't be that bad. Look at Europe--Berlin, Paris, London, etc. all are very safe by the standards of major American cities. This should not be surprising because they're still about half white, which is whiter than most American cities. Arabs/Pakis/Middle Easterners also commit crime at the same rate as Hispanics.

But you don't your city to become Paris. Paris is full of trash, gypsies, and has ghettos you don't go into. There's no reason anyone should aspire to have their country be more "diverse." Turning every city in the world into Paris--statistically it has more in common with NYC than the average town in France--would be a horrible thing and indeed is the anti-diversity.

Very interesting point. American cities are often built with materials and types of architecture that don't sustain very well hence the potholes and abandoned stores. Japan in contrast had buildings that last for even a millennia surviving all these earthquakes. Same with Europe and their ancestral building abilities that know how to build properly what our current generations done wrong.

1. This image was AI generated
2. Even if the average joe did stand up and do something about it, they would quickly be put down by not only the military/PMC's/Police, but also by the very people standing next to them who would also claim to agree with them just for virtue signaling points and would be given no quarter for any meaningful beneficial change to happen for the general populace. Especially with tools like the internet and modern technology. The interview that ex-KGB guy made warning about this very situation was accurate as there is no place to run or hide.

Exhibit A: half the threads on this site featuring backstabbing leeches that only care to start drama instead of commit to collaboration.
Exhibit B: the exponential decline in Western culture over the last 100 years.

Japan is really in peril.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

They should remake the Co-prosperity sphere again, just to see if that helps.

People shit on Japan for oppression and cruelty but fuck their colonialism was probably better than European ones. They actually set up factories and universities in their colonies while Europeans only planted plantation and slave labour. Unless, of course, eurofags moved to live in their colonies.

 

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Very interesting point. American cities are often built with materials and types of architecture that don't sustain very well hence the potholes and abandoned stores. Japan in contrast had buildings that last for even a millennia surviving all these earthquakes. Same with Europe and their ancestral building abilities that know how to build properly what our current generations done wrong.

Japan's cities are full of commieblocks and small-ass homes built in the late 40s-80s. They all got rekt in the war and burnt to the ground.

Also look at Japanese Xitter for how they've responded to the Noto earthquake from New Years Day. Spoilers: They haven't. In some towns they just cleared the debris from the roads and that's it. No rebuilding. The towns are mostly uninhabited because most buildings are uninhabitable. You can see a guy driving with a dashcam and there's almost no one there and nothing but severely damaged buildings like 3 months after the quake. Their government only cares about the 2-3 large cities and that's it. Their care for the majority of their country goes as far as the infamous Japanese rice subsidies their farmers get.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Japan's cities are full of commieblocks and small-ass homes built in the late 40s-80s. They all got rekt in the war and burnt to the ground.

Also look at Japanese Xitter for how they've responded to the Noto earthquake from New Years Day. Spoilers: They haven't. In some towns they just cleared the debris from the roads and that's it. No rebuilding. The towns are mostly uninhabited because most buildings are uninhabitable. You can see a guy driving with a dashcam and there's almost no one there and nothing but severely damaged buildings like 3 months after the quake. Their government only cares about the 2-3 large cities and that's it. Their care for the majority of their country goes as far as the infamous Japanese rice subsidies their farmers get.

Tokyo, Kyoto, and ? I can't remember the "3rd city". I know Hiroshima is still pretty important as is what is basically known as Toyota City.

Beyond that, I'm guessing that insignificant small towns will just go extinct.

Japan's population is expected to drop to 99 million people by 2060...... That's a loss of 25 MILLION people.

Thankfully by that point the GIGANTIC elderly population will have died off to a much more normal level, instead of the 33% and RISING of the population that it is now.

I think at it's worst, the over 65 population will be 40% of the country....

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Japan's cities are full of commieblocks and small-ass homes built in the late 40s-80s. They all got rekt in the war and burnt to the ground.

Also look at Japanese Xitter for how they've responded to the Noto earthquake from New Years Day. Spoilers: They haven't. In some towns they just cleared the debris from the roads and that's it. No rebuilding. The towns are mostly uninhabited because most buildings are uninhabitable. You can see a guy driving with a dashcam and there's almost no one there and nothing but severely damaged buildings like 3 months after the quake. Their government only cares about the 2-3 large cities and that's it. Their care for the majority of their country goes as far as the infamous Japanese rice subsidies their farmers get.

Well. I'm glad to be informed about this, thank you for sharing a side of Japan that I never thought I'd find. Seriously. I'm glad more people went in depth about this that the media refuses to report on. I've been to Japan myself and I never seen those areas before except for extremely small hotel rooms and I only had 2 weeks there spending almost the entire time in Tokyo, Yokohama, Kyoto, Osaka and Hiroshima. But the fact you told me makes me feel that Japan is in far more of a peril than I thought. People think of Japan and think "based" but are completely oblivious to the fact it's heading towards Agenda 2030 policies like the west. Correct me if I am wrong but I've been getting a history lesson on Japan nobody has told me before.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

The video about the slow damage response from the earthquake is from a town called Suzu. You probably have to search 珠洲市 or something for the video since it was a few weeks ago it circulated there.

Tokyo, Kyoto, and ? I can't remember the "3rd city". I know Hiroshima is still pretty important as is what is basically known as Toyota City.

Tokyo, Osaka, and to a lesser degree Nagoya. Three largest cities. Regionally they also emphasize Fukuoka (largest on the southern island) and Sapporo (largest on the northern island). Everything else is just "there", at best smaller cities which are pits for absorbing the rural population.

Beyond that, I'm guessing that insignificant small towns will just go extinct.

Japan's population is expected to drop to 99 million people by 2060...... That's a loss of 25 MILLION people.

Thankfully by that point the GIGANTIC elderly population will have died off to a much more normal level, instead of the 33% and RISING of the population that it is now.

I think at it's worst, the over 65 population will be 40% of the country....

The problem is hyper-urbanization destroys your country. Japan (and South Korea) will be warnings for centuries to come on the dangers of this. Artificially depressing the fertility rate is national suicide. Politicians there have been warned about the danger of concentrating everything in the two-three major cities, but nothing is done.

That's where you get towns like Yuubari, a coal mining town in Hokkaido which has lost around 90% of its population (tens of thousands of people) since the mine closed. There is no equivalent in the US or Europe beside shit like Centralia which is literally unsafe to live because of a giant coal fire burning underneath it. Japan made the Rust Belt look vibrant!

I'm pretty sure the same "send it to China shit" afflicted Japan as well as the West. They sent a lot of their industry to China and Southeast Asia and repositioned themselves with the usual "high tech" and "banking" and "human capital" buzzwords that do nothing but empower a laptop caste. If there's one difference, I suppose there still are a lot of bizarre non-jobs. All these dying towns spend a lot of money on quirky programs and installations to attract tourism. You don't really have that in the US. To me the most obvious temporary solution is decentralizing the economy from cities but I'm sure Japanese banks are just as leveraged in commercial real estate and will yell at businesses to fight it tooth and nail and not let people work remotely in their home village. And that might not be good either since laptop caste people are the same everywhere no matter the race and will demand diversity.

 

[AstaSilva]

1. This image was AI generated
2. Even if the average joe did stand up and do something about it, they would quickly be put down by not only the military/PMC's/Police, but also by the very people standing next to them who would also claim to agree with them just for virtue signaling points and would be given no quarter for any meaningful beneficial change to happen for the general populace. Especially with tools like the internet and modern technology. The interview that ex-KGB guy made warning about this very situation was accurate as there is no place to run or hide.

Exhibit A: half the threads on this site featuring backstabbing leeches that only care to start drama instead of commit to collaboration.
Exhibit B: the exponential decline in Western culture over the last 100 years.

Doomer, but I do agree Japan is too cucked to make a comeback

 

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If Japan's population decline isn't debilitating enough. They've recently been trooning out more and more.

Not exactly on the topic of Japan as a whole, but this post reminded me of manga I was recommended when I was still in trans circles. It's called To Strip the Flesh and it provided a special type of horror to me; something you'd usually see in eroguro combined with Western gendie brainrot. The irony of being recommended this because people assumed I'll find this story relatable or touching. I should probably make a short summary and post on somewhere in Stinkditch, the manga is fucking repulsive on so many levels.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

One of the drivers in Japan's stagnation was probably the abandonment of Deming's principles of management which had previously contributed significantly to the Japanese economic miracle. In fact, many large actors in the Japanese economy embraced his "Seven Deadly Diseases" instead by focusing on short-term profits at the cost of quality and long-term sustainability by pushing out the manufacturing of parts to multiple, untrustworthy suppliers in China and SEA. Also, management is Japan is plagued by its fetishization of merit ratings for employees and determining its strategy based blindly on hard data. Combine that with crusty and old managers whose young replacements are chosen mainly based on their academic performance and prestige rather than extending leadership training to actual workers doing the job. Personally, I would say that the average Japanese worker is as competent as in the 60s; the fault lies with the decaying managerial class, which is also a global problem.

 

[kim foxx]

yes. the movie "princes of yen" is about how the japs ditched industrial policy to do american-style asset bubbles.

 

[grump]

Much of the world is confronted with the end of two forces which have brought easy prosperity throughout the 20th and early 21st century. Modernization up to contemporary Western standards and the post War boom.

In a way what Japan faces is the same thing China, Europe, and the postboomer generations in the US face. Once you use the modern consumerist globalist capitalist blueprint to speedrun up to the current max level, what then? It exacts a toll. Particularly to the structure of the family and the rise of postmodern nihilism.

Of all of the major powers the US has arguably navigated this most successfully. They've pivoted toward information technologies and imported massive population and specialists to hide its flagging fertility rate.

Europe hasn't really done much other than the importing population part.

China is running out of homework to copy and so has begun stagnating too.

Japan found a long run of success copying homework like China would later do, but then took far better advantage of the post war boom than Europe, becoming a marketplace for products and ideas that structurally couldn't come from the west. But then their neighbors had the bright idea to modernize too. And at the end of the ramp Japan has no ideas on how to pivot like the US or solve the problems of the dissolution of family and postmodernism brought on by adopting modern consumerist culture.

The cracks of structural corruption and dogmatism in Japanese culture that have been hidden by rapid growth are now showing. Unlike the West, Japan is unwilling to import tons of foreigners to boost its aging population, which conservatives may admire and has helped somewhat preserve a distinct culture that draws fascination and tourism , but they're not trying very hard to boost fertility either. So no solution is often not much better than a bandaid solution.