Artcow Jason Yungbluth / IamDeathRay / DeathRayGraphics / Wrathofporkins

[Death Ray]

So how is someone failing to keep their part of a "pledge drive" not "willful, criminal deception"?

The answer is in the word "pledge".

No, you aren't.

Yes I am infinity.

 

[El Jagre]

Listen Jason, I think your webcomic about the daughter that gets raped by her father is like really bad edgy boy humor, but it's also a sign that you aren't what you'd call a 'traditional' sjw. I also enjoyed Weapon Brown. So please be real with me, what are you hoping to accomplish by posting here?

 

[SiccDicc]

She hasn't, though. You have been in your echo chamber too long.

I think you have in yours. Don't forget the Pow Wow Chow cookbook where she stole the recipes and listed herself Cherokee.

 

[Death Ray]

Listen Jason, I think your webcomic about the daughter that gets raped by her father is like really bad edgy boy humor, but it's also a sign that you aren't what you'd call a 'traditional' sjw. I also enjoyed Weapon Brown. So please be real with me, what are you hoping to accomplish by posting here?

I reject the word "edgy" as forcefully as I reject the term "SJW".

(Also, buy PEEK! The Second, in stores later this month!)

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

The answer is in the word "pledge".

And? How is it being a "pledge" stop it from being a "willful, criminal deception" if not kept?

Yes I am infinity.

What?

 

[SiccDicc]

And?

It means he gets to haze you.

What?

It means you lost the argument forever. Duh.

 

[Death Ray]

And?

I f you need the law explained to you, get in contact with Pickles. He is probably up... the bars in his neck of the woods don't close until 2Am.

 

[damian]

Prediction: This will go exactly the same way as the debate; Yungbluth will eventually go away or be threadbanned for shitting up the board with awful 'logic' or 'arguments' and convincing nobody. He will then go back to twitter for arse pats and rant how he totally owned the Kiwi Farms.

I would have rated , but he would actually do it.

 

[Least Concern]

I think my answer provides the correct context.

I'm not asking for context. I'm asking for an answer. But I will interpret this response as "yes, I believe he is a bigot in some ways if not others." If this interpretation is incorrect, feel free to correct me by explicitly telling us what you meant.

I reject the word "edgy" as forcefully as I reject the term "SJW".

Okay, so you do not wish for us to call you "edgy" or an "SJW." So you believe that people should be able to reject labels applied to them by others. By this regard, will you stop calling Van Sciver and other CGers "bigots" or "racketeers" if they reject those labels?

(ETA: Why are we talking about Warren here? fftopic: much?)

 

[One Man Bland]

Comic shops do not have to order anything they don't want. Perhaps they must purchase a certain quantity of a standard cover to get a variant cover, but I don't think that's what you are talking about.

Sure, El Jefe and D&C have found an audience, and it is an audience moved by politics, which, of course, completely contradicts what CG alleges to stand for. And that's the racket.

Dude, were you under a rock when Marvel was bragging about Black Panther #1 supposedly broke a million copies, only for it to turn out that they were only able to get to that number because Marvel basically held the Star Wars comics hostage by only making them available in a package deal that included a ton of Black Panther? And that LCS were fucking pissed because Star Wars was a huge seller for them but Black Panther most certainly wouldn’t? As proven when the sales plummeted the very next issue?

It’s been well documented that Marvel pulls a ton of shady shit to move copies of issues that wouldn’t be able to make it on their own through either putting the issues they want at a higher cost or over shipping issues to inflate the numbers for Diamond only for them to later rot on their shelves. It’s why the Direct Market is such a terrible system - so long as Marvel either swindles or brow beats enough comic book shops into buying their shit they stop giving a fuck what their audience thinks.

 

[SiccDicc]

I f you need the law explained to you, get in contact with Pickles. He is probably up... the bars in his neck of the woods don't close until 2Am.

I already linked you to an article where a State Attorney General took down a Kickstarter Campaign for failing to reward pledges. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you missed it.

 

[Death Ray]

I would have rated , but he would actually do it.

It's adorable that you think I need validation from social media. I must be out of step with the zeitgeist.

I already linked you to an article where a State Attorney General took down a Kickstarter Campaign for failing to reward pledges. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you missed it.

If a KS is "taken down", then it was never concluded.

As for your link, please read the article:

“I wouldn’t say that every single time a Kickstarter venture fails it’s a Consumer Protection Act violation."

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

It's adorable that you think I need validation from social media. I must be out of step with the zeitgeist.

Considering that you basically live on Twitter now...

 

[Jub-Jub]

But the sales are based on "owning the libs" moreso than people saying "I'm excited for these books."

Do you have evidence of this or are you just guessing? From tweets about Iron Sights and Cyberfrog people seem excited for the books. I will concede a small percentage of sales likely come from owning the libs, how does it feel making the CG side more money with your spergouts?

I f you need the law explained to you, get in contact with Pickles. He is probably up... the bars in his neck of the woods don't close until 2Am.

Still salty, funny you asked him not to cover your claim of disrupting Vox day's IGG, why did you quickly walk back this statement?

 

[El Jagre]

Alright so....what do you hope to accomplish by posting here Jason?

 

[SiccDicc]

If a KS is "taken down", then it was never concluded.

You're autistic aren't you? The Kickstarter Campaign succeeded, concluded, failed to deliver and then got sued by a State Attorney General.

As for your link, please read the article:

“I wouldn’t say that every single time a Kickstarter venture fails it’s a Consumer Protection Act violation."

That doesn't change that a reasonable effort must be made. Which is the entire point. Richard Pace spent five years dicking around on Twitter with nothing to show for it, does that count as reasonable effort to you?

 

[damian]

Do you have any actual arguments or just more semantics?

 

[Death Ray]

It’s been well documented that Marvel pulls a ton of shady shit to move copies of issues that wouldn’t be able to make it on their own through either putting the issues they want at a higher cost or over shipping issues to inflate the numbers for Diamond only for them to later rot on their shelves. It’s why the Direct Market is such a terrible system - so long as Marvel either swindles or brow beats enough comic book shops into buying their shit they stop giving a fuck what their audience thinks.

Never said Marvel were champs. If CG was more interested in this than they are with Robbi's asshole, they might be good for something.

 

[SiccDicc]

Do you have any actual arguments or just more semantics?

He's arguing by Twitter logic. He's trying to put on a big show to win points, he's not interested in actually debating us. It happens when you spend forever on the damned thing.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

If a KS is "taken down", then it was never concluded.

As for your link, please read the article:

“I wouldn’t say that every single time a Kickstarter venture fails it’s a Consumer Protection Act violation."

Taken out of context:

“I wouldn’t say that every single time a Kickstarter venture fails it’s a Consumer Protection Act violation,” says Shannon Smith, the Washington attorney general’s Consumer Protection Division chief. But, she adds, “I think you will be seeing more enforcement actions against entities that are using the Kickstarter platform.”

Tying nicely into...

That doesn't change that a reasonable effort must be made. Which is the entire point. Richard Pace spent five years dicking around on Twitter with nothing to show for it, does that count as reasonable effort to you?