Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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I think that's part of the reason why she hasn't made a new "X's is garbage" in forever, it's because it drove away a decent chunk of her audience despite the video itself getting a crap load of views.
That, and maybe hopefully those videos are out of fashion now. Video essays in general certainly aren't but I haven't seen anyone besides SuperEyepatchWolf do that kind of title in at least a year and a half.
Maybe Lily killed it. I've noticed Lily has a pattern of ruining memes and fandoms past the point of either thing being relevant.
 
, and seeing a Sith Lord more immersed in the Dark Side than anyone she’s ever met turn out to be compassionate

I might have missed something, but when exactly did Lalaina ever showed to be compassionate towards anyone that isn't Rey or did anything for anyone that wasn't for her own self interest on Rey? The chapter before the one that was summarized here was all about Lalaina just killing a bunch of rich people because it was fun. The last one we read is Lalaina just doing everything to save Rey.

Being a one-note character who only cares about one thing doesn't make you compassionate. If anything it makes you a selfish cunt.
 
I might have missed something, but when exactly did Lalaina ever showed to be compassionate towards anyone that isn't Rey or did anything for anyone that wasn't for her own self interest on Rey? The chapter before the one that was summarized here was all about Lalaina just killing a bunch of rich people because it was fun. The last one we read is Lalaina just doing everything to save Rey.

Being a one-note character who only cares about one thing doesn't make you compassionate. If anything it makes you a selfish cunt.
Aliana being compassionate is a blatant lie. She's hostile at worst, indifferent at best to the majority of the characters she interacts with, and anything 'kind' she ever does is only for Rey's sake. It's either because its what Rey would want, or it's to protect Rey, her "compassion" is reserved exclusively for Rey. Everyone else can go eat a dick.

What was that thing that Aliana keeps accusing Luke and Leia of doing with Kylo? something about how they only want to save him from the dark side because they're related and all other Dark-Siders don't get that same treatment?

Even Lily's characters project like a motherfucker.
 
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Maybe I'm out of touch cause I don't post any of my art, but is this a common thing?
This is the same reason the comic and fanfic were discontinued.

Do these guys need constant validation or is liking and re-blogging really not good enough?
Although maybe allowing comments would help.

Maybe people should just start copy pasting posts from this thread as comments, I'm sure that'd be just the feedback they need.
 
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Maybe I'm out of touch cause I don't post any of my art, but is this a common thing?
This is the same reason the comic and fanfic were discontinued.

Do these guys need constant validation or is liking and re-blogging really not good enough?
Although maybe allowing comments would help.

Maybe people should just start copy pasting posts from this thread as comments, I'm sure that'd be just the feedback they need.
If you're not an intense part of the hivemind and contributing to the nest, then you must be abandoned and laid to rest amongst the cretins who dared to not do enough work for the collective.

That's basically all it is: you don't want likes or numbers to go up anymore, you want a fandom. You want people to know this is the next big thing in media, naysayers be damned; that you have a legion at your beck and call ready to serve you and defend you because you are just that narcissistic. And it can't be just anybody: it needs to be an audience you shares only your beliefs about the world.

Problem with Lily is she takes even that to an extreme and no one wants to validate her or her shitty comic, except for a small audience that she doesn't want nor does what she wants them to do to support it.
 
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Maybe I'm out of touch cause I don't post any of my art, but is this a common thing?
This is the same reason the comic and fanfic were discontinued.

Do these guys need constant validation or is liking and re-blogging really not good enough?
Although maybe allowing comments would help.

Maybe people should just start copy pasting posts from this thread as comments, I'm sure that'd be just the feedback they need.
This usually happens to egotistical artists. The kind that aren't making art for really their own enjoyment, no this is the kind who will try to latch onto fandoms or groups and post art to gain a following without fully enjoying the media or improving their art. This results in a very smaller growth trend if really any do to the lack luster art or just the jump into different fandoms/groups. Moving into different genres also alienates fans who followed them for specific art/fanwork making most either become inactive or unfollow. Tumblr is also dying Ginger would probably get more interaction or more validating interaction from Twitter, Instagram, or even Deviantart over Tumblr which already has an awful system for leaving just comments on something let alone how it tells you that someone liked your post.

Ginger is following down the numbers mean everything path and wants to grow a community centered around her and her works like Lilly has. She wants someone, preferably more, to kiss her ass and constantly talk about how godly it is. The thing is, while her art is better than Mikalia's it's still not the greatest and all I've seen if just lineart with no colors for some recent pieces. She's even turning into Lily by insulting the subreddit that gives her more attention than her Tumblr. The whiney post is a call for people that follow her to leave more tagged reblogs and more comments. The best response to give her would be to go on different art sites, stay on reddit and improve her art. Quirky personality invested in theater arts don't mean shit when you're trying to be a visual artist with basic skills.
 
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Maybe I'm out of touch cause I don't post any of my art, but is this a common thing?
This is the same reason the comic and fanfic were discontinued.

Do these guys need constant validation or is liking and re-blogging really not good enough?
Although maybe allowing comments would help.

Maybe people should just start copy pasting posts from this thread as comments, I'm sure that'd be just the feedback they need.

These people don't make their art, stories, ect. because they're passionate about making them, they make them because they want internet clout.

If you're not an intense part of the hivemind and contributing to the nest, then you must be abandoned and laid to rest amongst the cretins who dared to not do enough work for the collective.

That's basically all it is: you don't want likes or numbers to go up anymore, you want a fandom. You want people to know this is the next big thing in media, naysayers be damned; that you have a legion at your beck and call ready to serve you and defend you because you are just that narcissistic. And it can't be just anybody: it needs to be an audience you shares only your beliefs about the world.

Problem with Lily is she takes even that to an extreme and no one wants to validate her or her shitty comic, except for a small audience that she doesn't want nor does what she wants them to do to support it.

Honestly, I think you're on point. Not too long ago Tumblr was THEE website to go to if you were a budding artist looking to get your work out there, instead of the borderline empty husk it is now. People don't exaggerate when they say that people like Pendleton Ward and Rebecca Sugar pulled a good chunk of their teams to work on Adventure Time and SU from Tumblr, which is insane to think about now looking back now (seriously, imagine getting your foot into the animation industry, not through years of school & practice, but through a lucky Tumblr post?). But those days are way over and done. Tumblr being long past its glory days aside, most big media companies have learnt their lesson about highering people based on what they posted on the Internet and nothing else.

Anyways, seeing how much time Lily sinks into making her Wiki's and coaxing artists to draw for her, it's clear that you're right in that she wants one of her "projects" to take off and be the next big thing on the Internet. Of course, Lily (and infact almost everyone else talked about here) is doing everything wrong in regards to possibly going about this.

Like, do these people think fame happens over night? Or that if you just keep mindlessly churning out content that it'll eventually get popular? "Quality over Quantity" is a saying for a reason, and while I wouldn't recommend pulling a George RR Martin and spend 10 years making a single freaking book because you want it to be absolutely perfect, you should take some time to make sure you put some real effort into what you make, maybe even experiment and try new things. People not getting engaged with your art/ story/ whatever? Take a break from posting shit as fast as you can, slow down, and try to improve your craft a bit! Watch some Youtube video's, seriously look over your work and see what was good and what was bad about it, even compare it to stuff you made a year or even a few months ago. Yeah, that stuff's a bitch to do, but it pays off in the end, unlike spending 8 hours bitching on social media.

I think that's half these peoples problems. They spend a shit load of time on social media "talking" about their art/ story/ whatever (along with just generally dicking around mostly, but they'll just lump that in with "working") and act like it's helping them develop their craft even though they're just pissing away their lives. I don't care what anyone tells you, no one got popular by posting social justice BS on various social media websites for 8 hours a day.
 
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Honestly, I think you're on point. Not too long ago Tumblr was THEE website to go to if you're a budding artist, instead of the borderline empty husk it is now. People don't exaggerate when they say that people like Pendleton Ward and Rebecca Sugar pulled a good chunk of their teams to work on Adventure Time and SU from Tumblr. But those days are long since past, Tumblr being long past its glory days aside, most big media companies have learnt their lesson about higher people based on what they posted to the Internet and nothing else. But seeing how much time Lily sinks into making her Wiki's and coaxing artists to draw for her, it's clear that you're right in that she wants something to take off and be the next big thing on the Internet. Of course, Lily is doing everything wrong in regards to possibly going about this.
Not to get too off-topic from your original point but...no they haven't. They really haven't. It's more so that all the crazies migrated from Tumblr to Twitter, and the culture followed suit. Nowadays all artists are usually hired from those positions in the types of media people love and consume, try to cancel those that say anything negative about it, and will incessantly either bitch at people/use that presence to unknoingly tank their own projects for controversy (see Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Homestuck, video games in general, etc.) or will use their position to blacklist people from the industry who criticize their shows (i.e. Thundercats Roar!).

Which is why it both amazes me that Lily refuses to use Twitter because it'd seem right up her alley, but I also know why she will ultimately never do that, as not only would her art be ridiculed to high heaven and her following incredibly small, but she'd be cancelled within a day if she ever stepped foot over there. Hell, there's already people that want her head on a silver platter, and she already got laughed off of by Reddit by GamerGhazi. GamerGhazi.

So to get back on point: she's ultimately fucked herself in the end no matter what decision she intends to make going forward; doomed to wallow on a husk of a platform with only her small "stupid and inane" following left to kiss the ground she walks on until they either get bored or figure out what she's done and move on. Hence why she's probably ending the comic. The last few people are just there to consume product and get excited for next product. And yet somehow even that's not good enough for them.
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but is this attitude of a diva artist who wants more attention and recognition than her work is what she criticized Animechristy for doing in the video "Glass of Water - An Artist Meltdown Story"?

making art on the internet is nothing special even if you have talent, work until you pass out or professional base it does not guarantee success or profit, and expect "validation" from strangers who swim owe you nothing in an area with countless offers of higher quality enjoying all day is naive and whine because of that is pathetic

Ginger and Lily want to treat them as if they are working as a company capable of publishing in the mainstream, but it is clear without the effort, the problems, the limitations and the criticisms of the fans that actually doing this would require
they just want the part of worship and testimonies of how they change someone's life
 
Call me weird but, an incest ship between two people who cant even get themselves pregnant is not as creepy as a monster mind raping you as a child... just saying. Atleast both else and anna are adults (like 18 and 21 I think) whilst lily was abused by gardevoir at age 14 when gardevoir would have been an adult gardevir by then (on the brink of death, so yeah, an adult)
 
Not to get too off-topic from your original point but...no they haven't. They really haven't. It's more so that all the crazies migrated from Tumblr to Twitter, and the culture followed suit. Nowadays all artists are usually hired from those positions in the types of media people love and consume, try to cancel those that say anything negative about it, and will incessantly either bitch at people/use that presence to unknoingly tank their own projects for controversy (see Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Homestuck, video games in general, etc.) or will use their position to blacklist people from the industry who criticize their shows (i.e. Thundercats Roar!).

Which is why it both amazes me that Lily refuses to use Twitter because it'd seem right up her alley, but I also know why she will ultimately never do that, as not only would her art be ridiculed to high heaven and her following incredibly small, but she'd be cancelled within a day if she ever stepped foot over there. Hell, there's already people that want her head on a silver platter, and she already got laughed off of by Reddit by GamerGhazi. GamerGhazi.

So to get back on point: she's ultimately fucked herself in the end no matter what decision she intends to make going forward; doomed to wallow on a husk of a platform with only her small "stupid and inane" following left to kiss the ground she walks on until they either get bored or figure out what she's done and move on. Hence why she's probably ending the comic. The last few people are just there to consume product and get excited for next product. And yet somehow even that's not good enough for them.
Just a reminder that Jerry got kicked out of Twitter twice. He truly is unwelcome in many places.

Anyway, new stream going on now.
"Sick", eh?

And here's my previous stream for those who missed it.
 

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Maybe I'm out of touch cause I don't post any of my art, but is this a common thing?
This is the same reason the comic and fanfic were discontinued.

Do these guys need constant validation or is liking and re-blogging really not good enough?
Although maybe allowing comments would help.

Maybe people should just start copy pasting posts from this thread as comments, I'm sure that'd be just the feedback they need.
So here's my two cents. If Lily, her fiance, and her girlfriend all wanted better audience engagement they wouldn't be posting on a dying platform like tumblr. Put your shit on artstation, get a custom domain for Poke-Madhouse. get a twitter thats purely for posting updates on your video's, webcomic, and story. and art.
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Won't get engagement. or at least not long term.

Oh and just so I feel like I'm properly contributing
These posts are supposed to be from lily's fans, but the fact lily's highlighting them has the tacit implication of being her opinion too. So I'm gonna treat it like it's her saying them.
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So it's been like...2 years since the toonkritic scandal. Just you know. Consider that
 
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Like, do these people think fame happens over night? Or that if you just keep mindlessly churning out content that it'll eventually get popular? "Quality over Quantity" is a saying for a reason, and while I wouldn't recommend pulling a George RR Martin and spend 10 years making something because you want it to be absolutely perfect, you should take some time to make sure you put some real effort into what you make, maybe even experimented and tried new things. People not getting engaged with your art/ story/ whatever? Take a break from posting shit as fast as you can, slow down, and try to improve your craft a bit! Watch some Youtube video's, seriously look over your work and see what was good and what was bad about it. Yeah, that stuff's a bitch to do, but it pays off in the end, unlike spending 8 hours bitching on social media.
Go to any advice video on how to get more Youtube subscribers, and you'll find a lot of armchair marketers who don't have much of a following themselves giving you shitty advice. 8-9 times out of 10, anyone giving advice on how to "grow your brand" will tell you to focus on quantity and consistency to please "the algorithm" because many of the high sub Youtubers upload consistently. The morons of the world who want to find the easy way out, like Jerry, tend to take this reasoning as gospel and assume repeatedly doing the same shit will always lead to steady growth, otherwise your fans are scumbags who aren't putting in their side of the work.
 
These posts are supposed to be from lily's fans, but the fact lily's highlighting them has the tacit implication of being her opinion too. So I'm gonna treat it like it's her saying them.
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So it's been like...2 years since the toonkritic scandal. Just you know. Consider that
She worked with ILoveKimPossibleAlot (A person with 126K followers who on average seems to break over 10k views on videos unless it's on something popular but even the highest is just 70k for rating pixar movies with a guest) but KP never even made a post about the scandal. If I remember correctly Kim kept her mouth shut and didn't warn anyone when she is a 'big' in the MLP world. Silence is just as bad if not worse than saying you should forgive a predator.
 
She worked with ILoveKimPossibleAlot (A person with 126K followers who on average seems to break over 10k views on videos unless it's on something popular but even the highest is just 70k for rating pixar movies with a guest) but KP never even made a post about the scandal. If I remember correctly Kim kept her mouth shut and didn't warn anyone when she is a 'big' in the MLP world. Silence is just as bad if not worse than saying you should forgive a predator.

Weird, Lily never seemed to accuse KP of doing nothing about ToonKritic. It's almost like her entire campaign was solely focused on how Josh and his Brony D&D group reacted to those events. Like some kind of bias or something.
 
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Weird, Lily never seemed to accuse KP of doing nothing about ToonKritic. It's almost like her entire campaign was solely focused on how Josh and his Brony D&D group like reacted to those events. Like some kind of bias or something.
Truly Jerry's pettiness knows no bounds.
 
Go to any advice video on how to get more Youtube subscribers, and you'll find a lot of armchair marketers who don't have much of a following themselves giving you shitty advice. 8-9 times out of 10, anyone giving advice on how to "grow your brand" will tell you to focus on quantity and consistency to please "the algorithm" because many of the high sub Youtubers upload consistently. The morons of the world who want to find the easy way out, like Jerry, tend to take this reasoning as gospel and assume repeatedly doing the same shit will always lead to steady growth, otherwise your fans are scumbags who aren't putting in their side of the work.

I made that comment more towards improving ones art, writing, or things that let you physically see the persons ability. But you do bring up a good point, learning things from the Internet and not an actual teacher that you can talk and go over things with can be somewhat fickle in regards to seeing steady improvement. Speaking as someone who has "learned" a bit of art from Youtube and a few other sites, you can't expect to get where you want to go just by watching one or two videos. You gotta watch a bunch of different videos from different people and practice what they do to see if what works for them also works for you. Not gonna lie, there were sometimes where I watch an hour long video and literally took one thing away from it that could have been explained to me in about two minutes, but that thing really helped me understand an aspect of shading I didn't consider before. On top of that, some people just aren't very good teachers and will skip over things that they think are "common knowledge" but would be unknown to a person new to whatever they're teaching.

Not to get too off-topic from your original point but...no they haven't. They really haven't. It's more so that all the crazies migrated from Tumblr to Twitter, and the culture followed suit. Nowadays all artists are usually hired from those positions in the types of media people love and consume, try to cancel those that say anything negative about it, and will incessantly either bitch at people/use that presence to unknoingly tank their own projects for controversy (see Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Homestuck, video games in general, etc.) or will use their position to blacklist people from the industry who criticize their shows (i.e. Thundercats Roar!).

Which is why it both amazes me that Lily refuses to use Twitter because it'd seem right up her alley, but I also know why she will ultimately never do that, as not only would her art be ridiculed to high heaven and her following incredibly small, but she'd be cancelled within a day if she ever stepped foot over there. Hell, there's already people that want her head on a silver platter, and she already got laughed off of by Reddit by GamerGhazi. GamerGhazi.

So to get back on point: she's ultimately fucked herself in the end no matter what decision she intends to make going forward; doomed to wallow on a husk of a platform with only her small "stupid and inane" following left to kiss the ground she walks on until they either get bored or figure out what she's done and move on. Hence why she's probably ending the comic. The last few people are just there to consume product and get excited for next product. And yet somehow even that's not good enough for them.

Oh, I have no doubt that some companies still allow that, and Twitter definitely hold a good chunk of the crazies that migrated from Tumblr that these people still no doubt draw from, But I do know that, not all, but some companies (like Disney) have started enforcing an employee review policy so they know the new hire can at least meet up to the productions standards and isn't a pure nepotism hire.

Anyways, like Devilsadvocate said, Lily got banned from Twitter back in 2017/2018-ish for threatening to punch her mother for accidentally mis-gendering her and saying some less then kind things about Lizzy (ironic now, considering what Mrs. Peet said about Lizzy is nothing compared to what Lily's done to her recently) and it's very unlikely that she'll make another account in the future. To bring up another of Lily's problems, but once Lily believe herself to be scorned by something or someone, she will never let it go even if it's to her determent. Never did see how she reacted to getting booted from Twitter, whether she flipped her shit on Tumblr or Youtube or whatever, it would be something to see...
 
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Don't have the energy to give some well thought out paragraphs about why this is hostile and rude for no reason so just gonna leave it at shes a cunt and this person has no reason to be apologizing
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At this point its self sabotage does she want to chase off all her fans
 
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