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If Lily's my mommy... At least I would know who caused my autism.
Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon
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Lily's more of an drunk abusive uncle if you ask me
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I like how Lily ignores the part where Lilith takes half of the curse into her own body so she suffers the same way Eda does. What is character development??View attachment 2413010
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So Lilith working under the bad guys purely out of the hope that they would heal Eda and literally stop the curse's not worth a redemption, but we're all supposed to forget that G mentally raped C!Liliana as a child, never told her and then was forgiven because she felt bad enough for two hours?
The criticism's not valid because it's stupid and also because it's coming from the same idiot who clearly has a bias tainting anything she says.
The criticism's not valid because it's stupid and also because it's coming from the same idiot who clearly has a bias tainting anything she says.
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I'm guessing 50shades-of-blue was kind of nodding along like "I see where you're coming from" until they got to I HATE REDEMPTION ARCSSSSSS! and checked the name. Alternatively the part where she says "the show remains focused on Luz", given that one of Lily's (80% chance of it being a joke) pieces of writing advice was that she hates it when the narrative focuses on other characters than the protagonists.View attachment 2413010
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(The advice isn't necessarily bad because too many stories wind up drifting from the characters you started reading for and going off to explore characters the writer is interested in but the audience isn't... but it's rare that somebody will mention that specifically as a plus to the narrative. And then as a plus to the character. Basically it's one of Lily's fixations on storytelling that doesn't have anything to do with the character in question but it checks off something she uncritically likes therefore it's good.)
I've listened to video essays about things I'm not super familiar with plenty of times, and one of the things about those critiques is that they'll provide actual explanations and specifics about characters and moments. Even if I'm not really familiar with the source material as more than a passing curiosity, I understand why the essayist feels the way they do. I'm not familiar with Owl House, but I certainly understand character achetypes and storytelling and if you talk about why you like a character -- even in a context I'm not familiar with -- I should be able to figure out the broad strokes of what you like or dislike about them.
When I read Lily's list up there I don't know any of why she actually likes or dislikes the characters, and it almost reads like a third-grade level book report. "I like Luz because she has a good character arc and is really likeable! I especially like that the story is about her."
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Pretty much ever "analysis"/"critique" from Lily is made without critical thinking or logic. To her emotions rule, and most, if not all, of her arguments are made with no regard to logic. She makes her decisions and arguments based on how things make me feel, which is why so many of her arguments end up being bad faith.
There's nothing wrong with making arguments based on emotion, but that is just one factor. If you ignore other aspects your arguments become incredibly narrow and myopic, like Lily.
But yeah, the reason she can't put examples to any of this is because it's just how she feels. "Amity is boring. The Golden Guard is bland." Like, okay, why? Oh, because that's just how you feel? I see, where should I address the award for "Least Compelling Argument Ever Made"?
She never elaborates on anything because she can't, it's just how it is and you have to accept it.
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So....am I reading this correctly or am I supposed to assume Lily believes...that fan reaction triggered a shift in writing direction...4 episodes into a season?
I'm pretty sure animated shows dont' do screen tests like films...Though I suppose lily doing her usually "redemption arcs bad"
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Some people think Luz is flat or insufferable.
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In all seriousness, there are times I think Lily hates her life.ETA: Lily hates herself and needs to tell people so.
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Do any of you guys think that?
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Sorry for the slight delay, but more RPG project and some Among Us stream.
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I could speculate. I don’t know all the dEeP lOrE on Lily. I don’t know shit about Tara Callie or whatever her name is, I don’t know shit about her relationship with her family, etc. etc. But with the things I DO she’s done, I’d be pretty anxious and miserable as well.Jerry thinks Luz is the best character? Pfft, yeah right.
Some people think Luz is flat or insufferable.
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In all seriousness, there are times I think Lily hates her life.
Do any of you guys think that?
Lily has a big tendency of lying. Even about weird small things. A big video is in the works about Stockholm, so I won’t get into it too much, but the small summary is that she has written a story, talked about it many times, the regretted it. Then she deleted everything and lied about it. Even lying about someone she once considered her best friend. (When Josh talked about Stockholm, Lily said that he was lying and spreading cp to defame her). But even then, she lies about even smaller stuff all the time.
One example is when she said a YouTuber named FNGR always asked her to be on his show, but she said no “every time”. But… that’s just not true.
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There were times in my life that I had to lie a lot. It kills you. You have to lie to the faces of people you care about. Make them second guess if what you’re saying is true. I could imagine her having to constantly convince her friends and fans that the people who hate her every day, even when she knows sometimes it’s true, are big mean liars can be emotionally exhausting.
Besides her being a pedophile, that’s a big reason I don’t like her. She won’t just own up to the bad things she’s done. She has to (and actually using the word correctly) gaslight her friends and lovers into believing something that isn’t real. She HAS to or else she’d have to completely destroy herself and start over… again.
But, hey. Knowing Lily, she probably wouldn’t want a redemption arc.
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The Lily and Mikaila relationship weirds me out. It’s fucking freaky. They’re literally the same person except Mikaila is super goddamn passive about everything vs Lily’s constant raging. It’s like she’s dating her clone.
Do we have any internet backstory on her before meeting Lily?
Do we have any internet backstory on her before meeting Lily?
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This is the same person who thinks Rebecca Sugar stole the Rose>Pink Diamond thing even though it goes back to the show bible. She's just an idiot.
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I could speculate. I don’t know all the dEeP lOrE on Lily. I don’t know shit about Tara Callie or whatever her name is, I don’t know shit about her relationship with her family, etc. etc. But with the things I DO she’s done, I’d be pretty anxious and miserable as well.
Lily has a big tendency of lying. Even about weird small things. A big video is in the works about Stockholm, so I won’t get into it too much, but the small summary is that she has written a story, talked about it many times, the regretted it. Then she deleted everything and lied about it. Even lying about someone she once considered her best friend. (When Josh talked about Stockholm, Lily said that he was lying and spreading cp to defame her). But even then, she lies about even smaller stuff all the time.
One example is when she said a YouTuber named FNGR always asked her to be on his show, but she said no “every time”. But… that’s just not true.
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There were times in my life that I had to lie a lot. It kills you. You have to lie to the faces of people you care about. Make them second guess if what you’re saying is true. I could imagine her having to constantly convince her friends and fans that the people who hate her every day, even when she knows sometimes it’s true, are big mean liars can be emotionally exhausting.
Besides her being a pedophile, that’s a big reason I don’t like her. She won’t just own up to the bad things she’s done. She has to (and actually using the word correctly) gaslight her friends and lovers into believing something that isn’t real. She HAS to or else she’d have to completely destroy herself and start over… again.
But, hey. Knowing Lily, she probably wouldn’t want a redemption arc.
I know someone who does similar things to Lily. They lie about things, big and small, and they're really good at it. I've fallen for a lot of their lies in the past, and called out others, to which they double down to being called out. It's the single biggest thing I hate about them, having to consider everything they tell me may be a partial or outright fabrication.
I'm not going to reveal either of our power levels, but I will say that I believe it stems from them having a really shitty upbringing with a monstrously abusive father. I think lying became a habit for them because the alternative, the truth, would only lead to them being more abused.
I imagine it's at least partly similar in Lily's case. Generally I'm skeptical about Lily's claims of past abuse, mostly because we've seen her lying about Lizzy abusing her. That and her belief that a child having a tantrum is caused by parents being abusive doesn't instill much confidence in her version/definition of abuse. So, maybe her pathological lying stems from perceived abuse, feeling that she needed to lie when growing up with her parents/brothers. Not that I'm excusing it or anything, far from it. Just trying to give my perspective.
Regardless, this is just another major issue in the pile of major issues that Lily has. In my opinion, Lily has made a mountain out of a molehill by doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down by lying about Stockholm. I believe if she had owned up to it, admitted she did it out of poor judgement or w/e, then it wouldn't have been a problem. But instead she continues to lie and gaslight despite the fact that the whole thing is very well documented and she's admitted to it on multiple, also documented occasions. Everyone that becomes familiar with Lily inevitably learns about Stockholm. The only ones that actually believe Lily are already like her fans and fiancée: they love nothing more than sucking the shit out of her ass when they aren't walking on eggshells around her because they're breathing wrong.
Honestly her supporters are really cult-like in their admiration for her and I just... genuinely don't understand how her of all people garnered that kind of devotion from people. She's a lot like Trump in that regard: mentally unstable pedophile that for some reason people obsess over with slavish devotion.
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considering how bootlick-y lily's fans can be- because lily practically drills it into her fans that is you don't have the same 'same-think' as me, your wrong FUCK OFF- makes sense that when lily starts dating a fan, they feel like a clone of hers.
Mikaila's been watching lily for about 4 years now if i remember her one post she made where it was an image of a timeline of mik finding lily's channel to then sleeping in the same bed as her.
Lily's just happened to find probably one of her most docile, passive and doormat-y fans who will obliged to do and defend whatever and everything to do with lily.
If you let your personality be influences so mutch by some person you think has a right opinion just because theyre a loud snark-ass, your going to pick up on some of their mannerisms/beliefes. People are influenced by the things they like/enjoy/look up to constantly.
its why the saying like father, like son is common, kids look up to their parents to they take after them. Many fans of a piece of media/person take after the thing they like (i.e 'I like pokemon therefor i like other media around anthropomorphic-fighting monsters and that's now my fav thing)
just mikaila's a veeeeeeerry extreme chase of this.
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Vaccine side effects are making her tendencies worse. Do me a comic, slave.
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that's a terrible metric to tell if a character is good or not and it still contradicts itself in the middle,
she says the Golden Guard is bland because she sees him as 20 characters stapled together, but says Odalia is a good character even though "strict and overbearing mom" is one of the most used archetypes in media and says she's good because she has a role in the narrative, what she thinks the Golden Guard is doing, she saw the "Hunting Palismen" episode right?
and can someone tell her that Luz is not a unique character either, she is surrounded by numerous tropes (which doesn't make her bad, just in the context that her arc is quite common in children's media) and she saying " I can't see anyone saying she's not the best" you can already predict that Lily believes that the only reason people don't like or don't have Luz as their favorite character is because of racism or biphobia, although she only likes Luz because she likes archetypal oddball lovable kid (that she poorly tries to emulate in her writing) and that she can fantasize about her as her new young lesbian girl, don't think it goes much deeper than that
and the reason Lilth withdrew from the show at the time is because her voice actress is quite expensive so she can't be in every episode and she will come back later, because unlike Lily's bubble the fandom likes redemption and Lilith
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Animated shows also aren't MADE like that. A single episode takes twelve to eighteen months to produce, beginning to end, and most of them are made concurrent to each other. While there are sometimes remarkable real-world circumstances that cause parts of a cartoon to be changed (a number of shows had airings delayed by a month or so back in 2001 because they had to adjust some scenes in the wake of 9/11, for instance), a comprehensive change that has ramifications throughout the season simply isn't feasible unless it's done during the early production phases. And the early production phases are usually done before the previous season even starts airing.
You could actually see the problem with not waiting out production in Gravity Falls second season, where episodes were pretty much aired immediately after they came back from Korea. It was at times months between episodes airings and I think the crew had to fight Disney to make sure that Weirdmageddon was aired as a block rather than waiting for them to individually come back.
Lily seems to think that animated shows are made like sitcoms, where a whole episode can be produced in a single week if necessary, and can be more or less re-written on the fly if something isn't working with an audience in a major way. (South Park is also capable of doing this, but South Park's animation pipeline is... unique.)
Needless to say, no, that's... not how animation works. While it is possible to slot out scenes in a timely enough manner, given enough warning, they can't write out a character they had expected to use throughout a full season because fans responded badly at the start of the season. Although this makes me now imagine a show doing so by just having a giant hovering CENSOR bar over the offending character and replacing their dialogue with random soundboard noises while not changing anything else.
Really it's just exemplary of how Lily just talks out of her ass and pretends it makes her an authority. She hasn't actually done any research; she just makes assumptions based on her limited life experience and awareness and then that's just how the world works, even in spite of her being empirically, provably wrong.
starborn427614
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This is to say nothing of redo's. Some shows are able to afford this more than others, hence why sometimes you might see something that looks mediocre and think it's just incompetence on the boarder's side when really it was a mistake but they couldn't afford to get it redone.
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It feels played out for me, like she's really going all out to try to convince everyone that she has the vaccines now. She was never this vocal about going through Covid twice. You could also argue that this not only proves that she did got vaccinated, but the getting Covid twice was a complete lie for the exact same reason. Vaccines's symptons are Covid symptons for the most part and if she's so surprised about it, it's makes it look like she never experienced those despite her claims that she felt she was going to die and it was like a horrible cold.View attachment 2414654
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Vaccine side effects are making her tendencies worse. Do me a comic, slave.
If this's how she behaves for just a little bit of a fever, then I can believe she never went through any cold at all and she only said she had Covid to seem more interesting and/or out of a fucked up idea that having Covid meant she had a pass to be essentially an anti-masker, therefore people should stop giving her shit about it.
Either way, there's a big lie somewhere and I'm inclined towards never getting Covid in the first place, because the silenty suffering type she's not.